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Old Oct 24, 2015, 5:28 am
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Why would a DL SkyPesos member do this now that RDMs are earned on ticket cost?

Either for the MQMs, or to actually visit SIN FWIW there are posts in the thread about similar itineraries on AA.

How do I search for dates/prices?

One way is to use ITA Matrix. Click on "Advanced routing codes" and enter something along the lines of:
  • outbound: dl+ dtw nrt
  • inbound: dl+ nrt dtw

NOTE: Basic Economy (E) fares have been spotted on this route and come with heavy restrictions. If you want to exclude E fares from your search you can add f ~bc=e in the separate "extension codes" box

See post 1329 for some screenshots (which are now out of date, the routing codes and extension code have been split into two separate input boxes)

You may wish to experiment with things like dtw,atl or x or even x+. Read the advanced routing codes help for more ideas. (DL no longer flies JFK-NRT nonstop)

I found an itinerary that works for me, how do I book it?
  • you can try a multi-city booking on Kayak or Google Flights and click through to Delta (you can save some effort by omitting the implicit/forced connection through NRT for example)
  • if you are comfortable installing add-ons etc. you can use the ITA userscript (see the wiki at the top of that thread)
  • for the less technically-inclined there is also the Book with Matrix helper site (and its related FT thread)
  • call in if none of the above methods work or e.g. you want to add a stopover

Do I need a visa?

No visa is needed for transits (or in fact for visiting up to 90 days, subject to qualifications)
You can get your boarding passes for your Delta return flight at Transit Lounge D, which opens 3 hours before departure.

What are the best seats?

Assuming you're stuck in Y (no GUCs etc.)
Picking a seat (Delta One, Boeing 777)
Master A330-300 (A333) Best Seats Thread

Will there be wifi on the international legs?

DL now touts International Wi-Fi is available on 100% of all wide body, long-haul aircraft providing near global coverage. Given "long-haul" this may not apply to NRT-SIN.

777s should all have wifi: thread #1, thread #2; although it is still subject to coverage/availability, seems to drop out in the far northern parts of the route, and coming down the Russian coast it seemed like http was slow but working and anything else like https took forever and/or was blocked

Delta doesn't seem to sell the Gogo global day pass on their web site but you can buy it directly from Gogo. You can use the same pass on both domestic and international flights in any order as long as it is within 24 hours.

FlexPerks VISA single-flight passes can NOT be used on international flights (they do not appear as a redemption choice when you sign in to Gogo in flight)

Other related threads:

Delta 763 International Wifi Installation Progress (especially posts #7 and #9)

Delta to add Gogo WiFi to international fleet

SIN airport facilities

If you are doing a quick turn, you can remain airside the whole time. There are a number of 24-hour food outlets in the transit mall areas (center of each terminal)

Each of the 3 terminals has their Transit Hotel on Level 3. Prices are similar for all:
-Terminal 1 - Plaza Premium Lounge recently opened Aerotel. Book at: Aerotel Terminal 1
-Terminal 2 and 3 - Harilela Hospitality runs an Ambassador Transit Hotel in each Terminal, above the Orchid Garden and Movie Theater, respectively. Book at: Ambassador Transit Hotels

Note that you can actually stay in either of the 3, regardless of which Terminal you arrive in. However, when leaving the airport, you need to exit through the same Terminal as that you arrived in.

FT thread on Singapore Airport Lounges

Airport website links:
NOTE: even though the DNATA Sky View lounge lists "Delta Airlines" on the airport web page and appears on a skyteam.com lounge search, it is considered by Delta to be third-party-operated, thus if you are STE+ in Y you will not have access. People have reported gaining access on an upgrade to J but YMMV.

There is free wifi either by receiving a text message code, or by scanning your passport. Previous posts mention just giving an email address, maybe try at the info desks. There are also free Internet stations.

NOTE for U.S. and other ~110V travelers: Singapore uses 230V/50Hz. There are plenty of USB charging ports in the seating areas, and most wall adapters for electronics these days are dual voltage (look for writing on the plug like "Input: 100V-240V") but if not or if you need to plug something else in, bring plug and voltage adapters to be safe.

Things to do in SIN

In descriptions of things to see/do airside, when you see "garden" read "smoking area" especially if you won't be there during daylight, the only other main reason people go there is to smoke.

SkyTrain between terminals runs from 5am-2:30am but you can always walk between any of the terminals as well.

Little More than 24 Hours in Singapore especially post #5 in that thread
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/25605453-post1047.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/24452870-post836.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/24064053-post794.html
Best practices for ~5 hour turnaround at SIN
3 perfect days in Singapore
Singapore's MRT (Mass Rapid Transit)
Destinations > Asia > Singapore FT forum
cheap transportation to Marina Bay Sands (or any hotel) for S$9

Things to do on a long connection through NRT:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/24426838-post835.html

Narita Int'l. Airport (NRT) Layover & Hotel Master Thread

There is free wifi in NRT.

Returning to the US

Even if you don't have Global Entry, CBP has a Mobile Passport Control app -- see program info and app website for d/l and list of participating airports which includes ATL (but not DTW)

You will have to pick up checked bags if any, and then everyone has to go through TSA security. International connections usually have their own checkpoint but it may not have PreCheck or CLEAR. If you want to take advantage of either of these, see airport-specific info below.

Through Delta's partnership CLEAR is free for DM, $79 for other Medallions, and $99 for General Members. Click here for more info on the partnership or to sign up.

Relevant FT threads:
Returning via ATL:

Minimum Connection Transfer Time at Atlanta (ATL): The Definitive Thread

CLEAR is now open in ATL but only at the domestic end.

For PreCheck, if you arrive in F, when you exit the hallway from customs there is a ticket desk in front of you. Normally the belt for re-checking bags on the left, and TSA screening beyond that. For PreCheck turn instead to the right (away from the drop-off luggage belt) and exit into the arrivals area, go up the escalators, and then you use the regular F terminal security checkpoint.

(It seems like NRT-ATL usually lands in E though... anyone have info to share?)

Returning via DTW:

Minimum Connection Transfer Time at Detroit (DTW): The Definitive Thread

When you exit customs normally you are directed to the right for rescreening. For PreCheck or CLEAR exit to the left as if you are an local Detroit arriving passenger and you will see some escalators in front of you. Go up 3 sets of escalators (there is a security checkpoint after the 2nd set but it does not have PreCheck). There is also an elevator.

The configuration as of Jan 2017 was, CLEAR without PreCheck was near the top of the escalators. If you have both CLEAR and PreCheck, there is a separate CLEAR lane on the right.

Duty Free Liquids

This post from 2014 says liquor etc must be checked as they cannot pass through screening in NRT/TSA. However this may have changed since then, and duty-free purchases in a Sealed Tamper-Evident Bag (STEB) might be permitted:

http://www.narita-airport.jp/en/secu...ection_ss.html

https://www.tsa.gov/travel/security-...g/liquids-rule

FT: Bringing Duty-Free Liquids into USA with a Connecting Flight

If you have any experience with this, please share!

IRROPS handling:

Good at least for one DM: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/21923836-post7.html

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2015: Nov #1, Nov #2, Oct, Sep

2014: Dec, Nov #1, Nov #2, Nov #3, Nov #4, Nov #5, Oct, Sep #1, Sep #2

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[FARE GONE] DL: SFO-ATL/JFK-NRT-SIN $1,232.30 ai RT (25,318 mi; 4.9 cpm)

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Old Nov 19, 2014, 9:39 pm
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LAX Run

I need ideas
I only need 8k to get to gold... yeah big deal right.

Out of lax
12/13-12/15
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Old Nov 20, 2014, 1:22 am
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Originally Posted by alois71
I need ideas
I only need 8k to get to gold... yeah big deal right.

Out of lax
12/13-12/15
Go to Asia or Europe, probably better prices to Asia - NRT, AMS, LHR, SIN, BKK, MNL PEK PVG, etc

Happy Travels! Get your flu shot! Cheers!
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Old Nov 20, 2014, 9:12 pm
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Originally Posted by wspfan
I have this booked but can cancel. Still on fence on going. Lot of time in the air.
Are you making the run? Or did you cancel?
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Old Nov 20, 2014, 9:17 pm
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Originally Posted by knwldge
Just booked LAX-SEA-NRT-SIN-NRT-MSP-LAX for Nov 30st - Dec 2nd for $835. 19857 MQMs and 39.7K RDMs.

4.2cpm
Enjoy your run! Happy Travels! Cheers!
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Old Nov 20, 2014, 10:07 pm
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Originally Posted by Csfing1
All seats in J were filled, in SC in NRT got paged with UG for NRT SIN.

Will see what happens on return.

Happy Travels! Cheers!

awesome! I just did a MR to HKG over Halloween - 13 seats in Bus Class empty up until boarding then BAM Non REVs took over. Crap! one seat on the return was left open so the pilot could occasionally come back and talk to his wife ...
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Old Nov 20, 2014, 10:48 pm
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Originally Posted by alois71
I need ideas
I only need 8k to get to gold... yeah big deal right.
Out of lax
12/13-12/15
Go to Austin. Twice.

Alternative possibility: Omaha
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Old Nov 23, 2014, 12:37 am
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Smile Are you making the MR with us?

Originally Posted by wspfan
Hey Csfing. I finally booked my fare at $1046.10 for your same matching trip. I'm a Diamond so I'm not sure what milesIi get for this one. MQM's are 25k+ I believe. Hoping I did good with that price. Don't know what you paid. How many people are doing this same trip?? Looking forward to meeting you and the crew. THANKS!!!!!!! Steve
Hi Steve, are you making the run? If so send me a PM with your contact info. Will meet in SC in LAX or JFK. If anyone else is doing the run let us know!
Happy Travels! Cheers!

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Old Nov 24, 2014, 2:31 am
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Fares on Nov 26

Best fares from LAX LAX JFK NRT SIN NRT JFK LAX 25,096 MQM
$1266 ai 5.04 cpm Dec 1-4
$880 ai 3.51 cpm Dec 2-5 best price for Dec
$1040 ai 4.14 cpm Dec 8-11
$1222 ai 4.87 cpm Dec 9-12
$862 ai 3.43 cpm Jan 12-15, Feb 2-5, 9-12, 23-26
$870 ai 3.47 cpm Feb 16-19
$1147 ai 4.57 cpm Jan 19-22
$1161 ai 4.63 cpm Mar 2-5

Make your MR this year, in 2015 you will get very low RDM with low fares!

Happy Travels! Get your Flu shot! Cheers! MR starts tonight! Have a Super Week!
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Old Nov 26, 2014, 12:21 am
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Almost halfway through my MR. SFO-DTW-ATL-NRT. We leave for SIN in about 100 minutes. Then turn around and head back via NRT/JFK.

Trying to decide which lounge I will visit with my free LoungeClub admit. I think I'll do the Rainforest by SATS. It allows 4 hours which is more than enough. They have showers, too. I need one of those.

Any thoughts?
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Old Nov 26, 2014, 12:33 am
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Originally Posted by iamhereandthere
Almost halfway through my MR. SFO-DTW-ATL-NRT. We leave for SIN in about 100 minutes. Then turn around and head back via NRT/JFK.

Trying to decide which lounge I will visit with my free LoungeClub admit. I think I'll do the Rainforest by SATS. It allows 4 hours which is more than enough. They have showers, too. I need one of those.

Any thoughts?
There are 3 of us on flight LAX JFK NRT SIN NRT JFK SIN, For us in SIN, 3 guys, will look for you, we are in SC near gate 21, Am in 34g on flight NRT SIN. WILL LOOK FOR YOU,

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Old Nov 26, 2014, 12:38 am
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I'm in 7D. Global upgrades. I'm in the Sky Club, too! I've never been over to gate 28 direction before. Nasty night out there.
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Old Nov 26, 2014, 1:02 am
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Originally Posted by Csfing1
There are 3 of us on flight LAX JFK NRT SIN NRT JFK SIN, For us in SIN, 3 guys, will look for you, we are in SC near gate 21, Am in 34g on flight NRT SIN. WILL LOOK FOR YOU,

Cheers
Hi Csfing1. I am at 36B for the flight, will look for fellow FTers lol
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Old Nov 26, 2014, 1:27 am
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It's a FlyerTalk party!

The J cabin is lonely though. REALLY lonely.

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Old Nov 26, 2014, 10:23 am
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Greetings from SIN

There are 5 of us on the way out and only 4 on the way back as one of our group is going to Taipei. It has been great meeting everyone. FT members starting in CVG, YYZ, LAX, SMF. If there is anyone else on the flight back we will be at the transit desk about 0400.

Have to explore the airport with thoiboi.

Happy Travels! Cheers!
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Old Nov 26, 2014, 12:26 pm
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Have a varied group of MRers on this journey, is interesting to hear what helped them make the choice to to do it and how long they read the thread before making the choice to do it! At least one is thinking about doing one more before the end of the year. Don't have much more time to get your RDM and this is a fast way to increase your total!

Have a wonderful Thanksgiving to all, ours will be on the plane and we will actually have 2 as we cross the IDL on our leg from NRT JFK. Happy Travels!

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