TrueBlue Changes 2023
#106


Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Digital Nomad
Programs: B6 Mosaic, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 135
Even under the old program, flights weren't credited until flown. I was shocked to see how fast card spend posted towards tiles this week though. Payment scheduled for the 15th and posted to my TB account on the 16th (that spend -flights- is not until November/December.
#107
FlyerTalk Evangelist




Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: NYC
Programs: AS MVPG, DL KM, Bee Six, Bonvoy Plat, Choice Plat, IHG Plat, Avis PC, Natl Exec, Greyhound Road Rwds
Posts: 20,101
My biggest concern (as some of you are aware) was a devaluation. But so far that doesn't seem to be the case, as I recently booked JB as a backup to a backup, for the lowest number of points on that route I've ever seen (NYC-MSY for 5k!). Assuming it's on time, I'll probably take them over Delta. However I did learn yesterday that I was caught up in a 20%-off sale, so maybe that had something to do with it.
I did have to book over the phone because you cannot combine Travel Banks and TrueBlue points online, and this time they had to transfer me to a supervisor (or "consultant" as they called it). Very interestingly, I was initially thanked for calling "JetBlue Airlines"
-J.
I did have to book over the phone because you cannot combine Travel Banks and TrueBlue points online, and this time they had to transfer me to a supervisor (or "consultant" as they called it). Very interestingly, I was initially thanked for calling "JetBlue Airlines"

-J.
#108
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: SFO
Programs: TK *G, HHonors Gold, UA 0.547MM and ex-1K but we gave up on each other
Posts: 202
Looking at the "Mosaic Perks You Pick" -
Mint Suite Priority (arriving later in 2023)
Mint Suite Priority (arriving later in 2023)
- Priority access to Mint Suite selection on select aircraft (pending availability). Excludes Mint Studio.
And "This perk only applies to the benefit holder and does not extend to others traveling on the same ticket." I always fly with my wife. So if she doesn't have that perk, then do I get a suite but she sits next to a stranger?
#109

Join Date: Aug 2018
Programs: Jet Blue Mosaic, Emirates Silver, Etihad Silver, BA Bronze,
Posts: 38
Doesn't priority mean you get first crack at them? So would they block out the suites for pax without that perk?
And "This perk only applies to the benefit holder and does not extend to others traveling on the same ticket." I always fly with my wife. So if she doesn't have that perk, then do I get a suite but she sits next to a stranger?
And "This perk only applies to the benefit holder and does not extend to others traveling on the same ticket." I always fly with my wife. So if she doesn't have that perk, then do I get a suite but she sits next to a stranger?
This perk gives a Mosaic member first dibs to select from an allocation of our popular Mint suites on A321 Classic with Mint aircraft. Each time they fly Mint, Mosaics with Mint Suite Priority will have exclusive access to select these reserved suites (if available) until 14 days before departure.Please note: this is not a Mint upgrade. You will have to book a Mint seat to enjoy this perk. This perk only applies to the benefit holder and does not extend to others traveling on the same ticket.
Last edited by Set2Jet; May 17, 2023 at 5:14 pm
#110


Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Digital Nomad
Programs: B6 Mosaic, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 135
Doesn't priority mean you get first crack at them? So would they block out the suites for pax without that perk?
And "This perk only applies to the benefit holder and does not extend to others traveling on the same ticket." I always fly with my wife. So if she doesn't have that perk, then do I get a suite but she sits next to a stranger?
And "This perk only applies to the benefit holder and does not extend to others traveling on the same ticket." I always fly with my wife. So if she doesn't have that perk, then do I get a suite but she sits next to a stranger?
#111
Join Date: Mar 2022
Location: Dedham MA 02026
Programs: HIlton Gold, Marriott Bonvoy Gold, Hertz President's Circle, Avis President's Club,
Posts: 3
Hey All,
Looks like I am either missing something completely here with my Tiles calculations for the new rollout or jetBlue completely screwed calculating up my Tiles.
As of right now, my Dashboard is showing that I have earned 10 Tiles since 1/1/23. I thought this amount seemed exceedingly low and did some digging and found the following...
Since 1/1/23 when JB states that they would begin the new tracking method:
- Total Barclay's JB Plus CC Spend (1 Tile for every $1,000 Spent) = $8,444 which should be 8 Tiles.
- Total JB Spend to Include Using the CC (1 Tile for every $100 Spent) = $4,471 which should be 44 Tiles or maybe slightly lower if government fees and taxes are not accounted for.
Maybe a Caveat to these calculations: I booked and completed a JB Vacations Package on 2/11/23 and traveled from 3/24/23 - 3/28/23. This was done as a Points + Cash purchase. 80,000pts + $4,106. $320 of the $4,106 was an Extra Space seats purchase.
As a counter that maybe JB is not honoring Points + Cash for accruing tiles, $320 was spent as an Extra Space Seat upgrade. According to JB language, Extra Sapce Seats are an "extra fee" that should count towards Tiles earnings. So even with this assumption/scenario, I would get 3 Tiles from this spend added to the 8 Tiles from the CC Spend.
As we can see, 10 Tiles vs 11 Tiles vs 52 Tiles is a drastic difference.
Of note too, I have check JB's contract language for eligible spend on the CC and also the TrueBlue program Terms & Conditions language and could not locate any statements in regards to not accruing whne booking a JB Vacations Package with Points + Cash.
TrueBlue T & C for Accumulation/Earning of TrueBlue Tiles
Any advice here????
Looks like I am either missing something completely here with my Tiles calculations for the new rollout or jetBlue completely screwed calculating up my Tiles.
As of right now, my Dashboard is showing that I have earned 10 Tiles since 1/1/23. I thought this amount seemed exceedingly low and did some digging and found the following...
Since 1/1/23 when JB states that they would begin the new tracking method:
- Total Barclay's JB Plus CC Spend (1 Tile for every $1,000 Spent) = $8,444 which should be 8 Tiles.
- Total JB Spend to Include Using the CC (1 Tile for every $100 Spent) = $4,471 which should be 44 Tiles or maybe slightly lower if government fees and taxes are not accounted for.
Maybe a Caveat to these calculations: I booked and completed a JB Vacations Package on 2/11/23 and traveled from 3/24/23 - 3/28/23. This was done as a Points + Cash purchase. 80,000pts + $4,106. $320 of the $4,106 was an Extra Space seats purchase.
As a counter that maybe JB is not honoring Points + Cash for accruing tiles, $320 was spent as an Extra Space Seat upgrade. According to JB language, Extra Sapce Seats are an "extra fee" that should count towards Tiles earnings. So even with this assumption/scenario, I would get 3 Tiles from this spend added to the 8 Tiles from the CC Spend.
As we can see, 10 Tiles vs 11 Tiles vs 52 Tiles is a drastic difference.
Of note too, I have check JB's contract language for eligible spend on the CC and also the TrueBlue program Terms & Conditions language and could not locate any statements in regards to not accruing whne booking a JB Vacations Package with Points + Cash.
TrueBlue T & C for Accumulation/Earning of TrueBlue Tiles
4.1.2 For JetBlue Vacations packages, if you are a registered TrueBlue member, you will earn one (1) tile per $100 of qualifying spend on airfare and one (1) tile per $100 of qualifying spend on hotels, cruises, car rentals and transfers as a part of your individual per-person portion of a JetBlue Vacations package. Tiles will be earned on the base price (air + hotel or air + cruise) of the package and on the base price of any additional product purchased at the time of the package booking, excluding any promotional bonuses. Tiles will not be earned on government taxes/fees, or travel insurance or other fees or charges (e.g., change/cancel fees, activities added after booking, food, airport transfers, etc.). You will only earn tiles based on the qualifying amount spent on your individual per-person cost of the Vacations package. You will not earn any tiles for amounts spent on any other traveler's Vacations package, even if such traveler is on your booking and/or you paid for the package. Each member's TrueBlue account information (name and TrueBlue number) must be entered for the booking in order for every member to earn tiles on their individual per-person portion of the JetBlue Vacations package. Eligible tiles earned as part of a Vacations package count toward earning Mosaic status.
#112

Join Date: Aug 2018
Programs: Jet Blue Mosaic, Emirates Silver, Etihad Silver, BA Bronze,
Posts: 38
Hey All,
Looks like I am either missing something completely here with my Tiles calculations for the new rollout or jetBlue completely screwed calculating up my Tiles.
As of right now, my Dashboard is showing that I have earned 10 Tiles since 1/1/23. I thought this amount seemed exceedingly low and did some digging and found the following...
Since 1/1/23 when JB states that they would begin the new tracking method:
- Total Barclay's JB Plus CC Spend (1 Tile for every $1,000 Spent) = $8,444 which should be 8 Tiles.
- Total JB Spend to Include Using the CC (1 Tile for every $100 Spent) = $4,471 which should be 44 Tiles or maybe slightly lower if government fees and taxes are not accounted for.
Maybe a Caveat to these calculations: I booked and completed a JB Vacations Package on 2/11/23 and traveled from 3/24/23 - 3/28/23. This was done as a Points + Cash purchase. 80,000pts + $4,106. $320 of the $4,106 was an Extra Space seats purchase.
As a counter that maybe JB is not honoring Points + Cash for accruing tiles, $320 was spent as an Extra Space Seat upgrade. According to JB language, Extra Sapce Seats are an "extra fee" that should count towards Tiles earnings. So even with this assumption/scenario, I would get 3 Tiles from this spend added to the 8 Tiles from the CC Spend.
As we can see, 10 Tiles vs 11 Tiles vs 52 Tiles is a drastic difference.
Of note too, I have check JB's contract language for eligible spend on the CC and also the TrueBlue program Terms & Conditions language and could not locate any statements in regards to not accruing whne booking a JB Vacations Package with Points + Cash.
TrueBlue T & C for Accumulation/Earning of TrueBlue Tiles
Any advice here????
Looks like I am either missing something completely here with my Tiles calculations for the new rollout or jetBlue completely screwed calculating up my Tiles.
As of right now, my Dashboard is showing that I have earned 10 Tiles since 1/1/23. I thought this amount seemed exceedingly low and did some digging and found the following...
Since 1/1/23 when JB states that they would begin the new tracking method:
- Total Barclay's JB Plus CC Spend (1 Tile for every $1,000 Spent) = $8,444 which should be 8 Tiles.
- Total JB Spend to Include Using the CC (1 Tile for every $100 Spent) = $4,471 which should be 44 Tiles or maybe slightly lower if government fees and taxes are not accounted for.
Maybe a Caveat to these calculations: I booked and completed a JB Vacations Package on 2/11/23 and traveled from 3/24/23 - 3/28/23. This was done as a Points + Cash purchase. 80,000pts + $4,106. $320 of the $4,106 was an Extra Space seats purchase.
As a counter that maybe JB is not honoring Points + Cash for accruing tiles, $320 was spent as an Extra Space Seat upgrade. According to JB language, Extra Sapce Seats are an "extra fee" that should count towards Tiles earnings. So even with this assumption/scenario, I would get 3 Tiles from this spend added to the 8 Tiles from the CC Spend.
As we can see, 10 Tiles vs 11 Tiles vs 52 Tiles is a drastic difference.
Of note too, I have check JB's contract language for eligible spend on the CC and also the TrueBlue program Terms & Conditions language and could not locate any statements in regards to not accruing whne booking a JB Vacations Package with Points + Cash.
TrueBlue T & C for Accumulation/Earning of TrueBlue Tiles
Any advice here????
Still seems like a big difference - could always be a glitch with the points plus cash processing. I would call for the breakdown of why you received what you did (if you have Mosaic from last year its much easier - seems they have more leeway and generally are more familiar with the nuisances the Mosaic line. Thats just from my own experience. They adjusted a missed tiles/points credit for me the other day and it went through right away. )
Last edited by Set2Jet; May 22, 2023 at 8:05 pm
#113



Join Date: May 2009
Location: Boston, MA
Programs: AA Million Miler, Mosaic, Delta Platinum
Posts: 1,855
It is a part of the program. If for instance you selected 20 tile points, you can select 20 tile points again to use through 2024. I selected the 20 tiles one twice which generated 40 extra tiles which then put the total over 100 tiles which opened up another perk to choose 15,000 bonus points. It is a bit unclear though if you don't select the same one twice, I would assume the 20 tile points stay and the new one is selected--though the wording seems to indicate the first one is taken away.
#114

Join Date: Aug 2018
Programs: Jet Blue Mosaic, Emirates Silver, Etihad Silver, BA Bronze,
Posts: 38
Yes it should advance you to Mosaic. I selected the 20 tiles and reached Mosaic one. I then was able to select the 20 tiles again to apply for next year (as others have mentioned) and it bumped me to 70+ tiles.
#115
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 33
As a singular data point, some idiot (aka me) clicked through the perks you pick too quickly and didn't think about my lack of need of tile credits for the upcoming year. Interacted with chat support later that same day and while it took a while, they were ultimately able to reset the selection.
The rare W for JetBlue IT.
The rare W for JetBlue IT.
#116



Join Date: May 2009
Location: Boston, MA
Programs: AA Million Miler, Mosaic, Delta Platinum
Posts: 1,855
I should reach 50 soon due to flights. Will that make me Mosaic 1 for 2024 (I'm already Mosaic for 2023)?
It also seems like you need to pick your perk quickly or it goes away when you reach the next level. I didn't pick after 10K and looks like that opportunity was forfeited.
#117
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: SFO
Programs: TK *G, HHonors Gold, UA 0.547MM and ex-1K but we gave up on each other
Posts: 202
A Mosaic agent told me that selecting a Mosaic Perks You Pick replaces the previous one - but only if the previous one is Mint Suite Priority or the pet fee waiver. The others (FoundersCard Blue, $99 statement credit, 20 tiles, 15,000 points) are yours when you select them and don't get replaced or clawed back.
So if you pick 15,000 points, then later level up and pick Mint Suite Priority, you keep the 15,000 points. But if you pick Mint Suite Priority, level up, and then pick 15,000 points - according to the agent, you lose Mint Suite Priority. Is that true?
Are you saying that the second 20 tiles stay in the account into 2024, and can apply toward qualifying for 2025?
The website says "At the start of each new program year (1/1), the tile tracker on your dashboard will reset to 0 tiles, but any Perks You Pick that were earned and selected in the prior year are still valid through 12/31, unless it was a one-time perk that was already used." I'd think the 20 tiles perk is used when selected, same as the 15,000 points, $99 statement credit or FoundersCard Blue.
So if you pick 15,000 points, then later level up and pick Mint Suite Priority, you keep the 15,000 points. But if you pick Mint Suite Priority, level up, and then pick 15,000 points - according to the agent, you lose Mint Suite Priority. Is that true?
The website says "At the start of each new program year (1/1), the tile tracker on your dashboard will reset to 0 tiles, but any Perks You Pick that were earned and selected in the prior year are still valid through 12/31, unless it was a one-time perk that was already used." I'd think the 20 tiles perk is used when selected, same as the 15,000 points, $99 statement credit or FoundersCard Blue.
Last edited by bilofsky; May 24, 2023 at 9:48 am Reason: Add link
#118


Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: BOS,PIT
Programs: Marriott Lifetime Platinum, JetBlue Mosaic-2, AA Platinum
Posts: 562
I'm already Mosaic from previous year. I have 32 tiles this year and don't anticipate any problems hitting 50. I have not yet picked my perk.
1. Should I be picking my perk now before I hit 50, so that I get a second perk at 50?
2. If I am able to pick 20-tile bonus now, and then again when I hit 50:
32->20 tile bonus->52->20 tile bonus again -> 72?
3. Will I get yet another pick at 100? (a total of 3 perks?)
1. Should I be picking my perk now before I hit 50, so that I get a second perk at 50?
2. If I am able to pick 20-tile bonus now, and then again when I hit 50:
32->20 tile bonus->52->20 tile bonus again -> 72?
3. Will I get yet another pick at 100? (a total of 3 perks?)
#119
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: SFO
Programs: TK *G, HHonors Gold, UA 0.547MM and ex-1K but we gave up on each other
Posts: 202
1. Should I be picking my perk now before I hit 50, so that I get a second perk at 50?
2. If I am able to pick 20-tile bonus now, and then again when I hit 50:
32->20 tile bonus->52->20 tile bonus again -> 72?
3. Will I get yet another pick at 100? (a total of 3 perks?)
2. If I am able to pick 20-tile bonus now, and then again when I hit 50:
32->20 tile bonus->52->20 tile bonus again -> 72?
3. Will I get yet another pick at 100? (a total of 3 perks?)
But if you're not confident of getting from 72 to 100 this year, it might pay to wait on the second 20 tiles until you're over 80 and it will get you to 100. Then if you get to December and aren't over 80, you can take another perk instead.
#120
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: SFO
Programs: TK *G, HHonors Gold, UA 0.547MM and ex-1K but we gave up on each other
Posts: 202
Different Mosaic agents have told me different things about the new system, and sometimes different from what's on the website.
The agent today sounded the most coherent and credible. Not saying this is true, but here's what she said:
The agent today sounded the most coherent and credible. Not saying this is true, but here's what she said:
- Tiles last until the end of the following year, regardless of Mosaic status. So tiles earned or awarded this year last until 12/31/24.
- An open opportunity to pick tiles or another Mosaic Perks You Pick will continue into 2024 if you have qualified for Mosaic in 2024. Otherwise it goes away at the end of 2023.

