TrueBlue Changes 2023
#137
Join Date: Mar 2022
Location: Dedham MA 02026
Programs: HIlton Gold, Marriott Bonvoy Gold, Hertz President's Circle, Avis President's Club,
Posts: 3
#138
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: usa
Programs: Free agent, value for my money
Posts: 149
High class issue here now that I'm above 150 tiles.
Next "level" appears to be 250 tiles for a couple more Mint upgrades and the Blade helicopter rides. The Mint upgrades could be lucrative but the helicopter situation does not work for me. The other incentives as I've gained tiles (Founder's Card, Pet Waiver type incentives) are also not attractive for my travel purposes. There is an additional 15K points, which could be worth $150, at the 150 tile level which was useful, but above that there are no additional points bonuses. And the next level is 100 tiles higher?
Suggestion to JetBlue: create additional incremental points options at these higher tile levels.
Next "level" appears to be 250 tiles for a couple more Mint upgrades and the Blade helicopter rides. The Mint upgrades could be lucrative but the helicopter situation does not work for me. The other incentives as I've gained tiles (Founder's Card, Pet Waiver type incentives) are also not attractive for my travel purposes. There is an additional 15K points, which could be worth $150, at the 150 tile level which was useful, but above that there are no additional points bonuses. And the next level is 100 tiles higher?
Suggestion to JetBlue: create additional incremental points options at these higher tile levels.
#139
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: SFO
Programs: TK *G, HHonors Gold, UA 0.547MM and ex-1K but we gave up on each other
Posts: 201
I'm also trying to figure out this one. Does picking 20 tiles give you a "discount" on achieving Mosaic next year as well? Say I earn Mosaic with $40,000 credit card spend and $1,000 travel in 2023. I choose 20 tiles. Do I only need to earn 30 tiles in 2024 to maintain Mosaic?
Next question - what if I have a pick but don't use it in 2023? Can I still make the pick in 2024? If so, then I can pick those 20 tiles for 2024.
The agent read me something from an internal document that convinced him that the answer is yes. But what he read didn't say that.
If someone else wants to take a turn down the rabbit hole, please let us know. Again - if we qualify for Mosaic in 2023 for 2024, can we hold off on picking our perk until 2024?
- Use my Mosaic 1 PYP in December 2023 to add 20 tiles to my current 34, becoming Mosaic 2 through December 2024 and earning another PYP.
- Hold onto that PYP into 2024. If it disappears on Jan. 1, then ask [email protected] for it back.
- If at some point in 2024 I am between 30 and 49 tiles but not getting to 50, I'll take the 20 tiles. Otherwise I'll take something else.
- And my wife is in the same situation. So she also should upgrade this year. We always fly together, so it doesn't make much sense for her to try for Mosaic next year. So probably her 2024 PYP should go to something else. Too bad Mint Priority doesn't apply to a companion.
Kim said "Each time you qualify for a new level of Mosaic, you will be able to select a perk from the Mosaic Perks you pick menu. We encourage you to select your perk as soon as you earn it but it can be selected any time between when it was earned and 12/31 of the following year."
Leah said "Mosaic customers can choose from six different Perks You Pick, which are unlocked at Mosaic 1 and each time you reach a new Mosaic level. ... We encourage you to select Perks You Pick as soon as you earn them, but they can be selected at any time between when they are earned and December of the following year."
Another agent said "Once the Perk You Pick is selected you would have the remainder of the calendar year to use it." The question was about selecting the PYP, not once it is selected - and I'm not sure how to apply her answer in any case. The other two sounded like they were paraphrasing the same document. So I found their answer credible by a vote of 2 to 0, with one spoiled ballot. And I stopped asking.
Last edited by bilofsky; Aug 14, 2023 at 10:57 am
#140
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: SFO
Programs: TK *G, HHonors Gold, UA 0.547MM and ex-1K but we gave up on each other
Posts: 201
A Mosaic agent just told me that we don't get tiles on a flight because we booked using dollars from the Travel Bank. Is that true?
He told me two other things, both wrong.
He told me two other things, both wrong.
#141
Join Date: Apr 2003
Programs: B6 Mosaic, Bonvoy LT Titanium (x SPG LT), IHG Spire, UA Silver
Posts: 5,848
No, You just get the tiles after the flight posts regardless of whether it was paid by cash or travel bank and only in $100 increments. So if you are at 0 tiles and the spend is $150 then you would earn 1 tile and would have to spend another $50 to get the 2nd tile. If you pay for fees like even more space, that would be added to the jetBlue spend total. If your base fare was $150 and you spent $50 on seat fees your total spend would be $200 and you would earn 2 tiles.
#142
Join Date: Apr 2003
Programs: B6 Mosaic, Bonvoy LT Titanium (x SPG LT), IHG Spire, UA Silver
Posts: 5,848
I was already Mosaic through 12/31/23 and have now reached Mosaic 1. So that means I'm now Mosaic through 12/31/24? I cannot find an expiration date anywhere on the website or app and I'm fairly certain it used to be there before the system change. Why would they not publish that?
#143
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: SFO
Programs: TK *G, HHonors Gold, UA 0.547MM and ex-1K but we gave up on each other
Posts: 201
One more try. Two agents said I can earn a Mosaic PYP this year and P(ick) it next year. And this time I have it in emails. So if nothing changes in my account, I will:
Kim said "Each time you qualify for a new level of Mosaic, you will be able to select a perk from the Mosaic Perks you pick menu. We encourage you to select your perk as soon as you earn it but it can be selected any time between when it was earned and 12/31 of the following year."
Leah said "Mosaic customers can choose from six different Perks You Pick, which are unlocked at Mosaic 1 and each time you reach a new Mosaic level. ... We encourage you to select Perks You Pick as soon as you earn them, but they can be selected at any time between when they are earned and December of the following year."
Another agent said "Once the Perk You Pick is selected you would have the remainder of the calendar year to use it." The question was about selecting the PYP, not once it is selected - and I'm not sure how to apply her answer in any case. The other two sounded like they were paraphrasing the same document. So I found their answer credible by a vote of 2 to 0, with one spoiled ballot. And I stopped asking.
- Use my Mosaic 1 PYP in December 2023 to add 20 tiles to my current 34, becoming Mosaic 2 through December 2024 and earning another PYP.
- Hold onto that PYP into 2024. If it disappears on Jan. 1, then ask [email protected] for it back.
- If at some point in 2024 I am between 30 and 49 tiles but not getting to 50, I'll take the 20 tiles. Otherwise I'll take something else.
- And my wife is in the same situation. So she also should upgrade this year. We always fly together, so it doesn't make much sense for her to try for Mosaic next year. So probably her 2024 PYP should go to something else. Too bad Mint Priority doesn't apply to a companion.
Kim said "Each time you qualify for a new level of Mosaic, you will be able to select a perk from the Mosaic Perks you pick menu. We encourage you to select your perk as soon as you earn it but it can be selected any time between when it was earned and 12/31 of the following year."
Leah said "Mosaic customers can choose from six different Perks You Pick, which are unlocked at Mosaic 1 and each time you reach a new Mosaic level. ... We encourage you to select Perks You Pick as soon as you earn them, but they can be selected at any time between when they are earned and December of the following year."
Another agent said "Once the Perk You Pick is selected you would have the remainder of the calendar year to use it." The question was about selecting the PYP, not once it is selected - and I'm not sure how to apply her answer in any case. The other two sounded like they were paraphrasing the same document. So I found their answer credible by a vote of 2 to 0, with one spoiled ballot. And I stopped asking.
I had 47 tiles and a Mosaic Perk You Pick that I was holding until the end of the year, in case I got 7 more tiles without using the MPYP.
Multiple JB phone agents had told me that I would not get tiles from a JB segment on a flight booked through Icelandair. But a week after the flight, in came 6 tiles, Mosaic 1 status through 2024, and a MPYP.
Multiple Mosaic email agents had told me that the new MPYP would replace the old one. If that's true then I just lost a MPYP.
But two phone agents looked at my account and told me that I have two MPYPs now. Everyone agrees that the MPYP(s) will remain usable until 12/31/24.
So I'm doing nothing until 1/1/24. Then I'll use a MPYP for 20 tiles and see if I still have the other one.
It's a shame that the only way to accurately know how this system works is to see how it worked.
#144
Join Date: Apr 2022
Location: New York, NY
Programs: Marriott, United, Jetblue
Posts: 157
Anyone have feedback on the logistics of the Mosaic “even more space at check-in” benefit?
I am sure some routes tend to have more availability than others, just curious if this is like a mad scramble to checkin online first to secure these seats.
I have a couple transatlantic flights booked for 2024 (which a even more space seat is about $400/rt and I feel this is about the only value I find in the program), would like to understand the process before then
I am sure some routes tend to have more availability than others, just curious if this is like a mad scramble to checkin online first to secure these seats.
I have a couple transatlantic flights booked for 2024 (which a even more space seat is about $400/rt and I feel this is about the only value I find in the program), would like to understand the process before then
#145
Join Date: Apr 2003
Programs: B6 Mosaic, Bonvoy LT Titanium (x SPG LT), IHG Spire, UA Silver
Posts: 5,848
It is pretty rare for EMS to be sold out by check in time—especially with AA elites no longer competing for them. You can always check the seat map as it gets closer.
#146
Join Date: Apr 2022
Location: New York, NY
Programs: Marriott, United, Jetblue
Posts: 157
Let me ask this, if myself and my wife are both mosaic but I am flying with kids (no status) and it was all booked together. Will I get the option to upgrade the entire group to EMS or no?
#147
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 46
I've noticed that the upgrade does not have to happen after actually checking in. I've been able to move to EMS(price shows up as $0) at T-24 as Mosaic 1 just by 'managing flights'.
#148
Join Date: Apr 2022
Location: New York, NY
Programs: Marriott, United, Jetblue
Posts: 157
Update after first four months of the program year, still believe the EMS upgrades are most beneficial of Mosaic. Have had a good success rate (15 out of 16 legs) so far.
Still had a fair share of delays and a cancellation, doesn’t bode well for increased operational performance.
B6 is hands down the best way to cross the Atlantic. I hope these routes survive future network changes. Have flown LHR, LGW, CDG and have AMS and DUB booked.
Rooting for LIS and FCO once the XLR are delivered.
Still had a fair share of delays and a cancellation, doesn’t bode well for increased operational performance.
B6 is hands down the best way to cross the Atlantic. I hope these routes survive future network changes. Have flown LHR, LGW, CDG and have AMS and DUB booked.
Rooting for LIS and FCO once the XLR are delivered.