FlyerTalk Forums - The Penalty Box

I forgot where I read it, but there was an article recently about how US was positioned to become a "global" player after the HP take-over. And then everything fell apart and despite their LCC moniker their fixed operating costs remain one of the highest in the industry.

To this day it astounds me that the folks in Tempe are so arrogant to think they can position the product they way they do. They try and fight with the WN's and NK's of the world, when their operating costs don't allow it. They're sitting on a gold-mine of a route-structure in the NorthEast and they've done nothing but try and destructo-mode it instead of exploiting it for maximum profit potential.

Why fly someone between NYC and BOS for $700 when you can fly them to FLL for $100 on the same aircraft. :rolleyes:

I'm starting to sound like chicken-little, but this will be the year that US ceases to exist the way we know it. Either it will get bought-out or it will go under. Something has to give.

colpuck

Apr 28, 2009 7:28 am

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ConciergeMike

Apr 28, 2009 7:31 am

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Originally Posted by belynch (Post 11657533)

I'm starting to sound like chicken-little, but this will be the year that US ceases to exist the way we know it. Either it will get bought-out or it will go under. Something has to give.

CLT will keep it alive. I'd love to see US restructure and be able to go back to what I'm told it was years ago. Until WN starts CLT service, US will survive.

kingalien

Apr 28, 2009 7:33 am

Morning Box.

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Originally Posted by ConciergeMike (Post 11657466)

So what was in the Zillion-Miler welcome kit? :D:D

A blank plastic card so you can affix your label printout of the zillion-miler status card from CO.com. The plastic card on the back says CO is going green, please reuse this card every year.

I'm sure there was other things in the envelope but in usual fashion just didn't make it in there.

:p:p

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Originally Posted by xyzzy (Post 11657396)

M:rolleyes:rning, b:rolleyes:x! It's 6::rolleyes::rolleyes:am here in LAS and I'm officially awake and feeling well rested as if I slept until 9am. <yawn> -- wait a minute -- I did :eek::eek:!! :p

:confused: not at the gaming tables yet?

icurhere2

Apr 28, 2009 7:33 am

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Originally Posted by belynch (Post 11657533)

The failure of their business model is continually trying to be both a low-cost airline (unsuccessfully - this is a very easily measured statistic) with an extensive route network (domestic and internationally). HP was a much better low-cost carrier than the old US (or the new LCC) ever were - even I used to fly HP out of DCA, where they pulled off some prime slots (LAS and PHX).

rolov

Apr 28, 2009 7:35 am

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Originally Posted by Olton Hall (Post 11657471)

Morning Box
Hate when that happens

Let me guess, it's airside now too?

I should go outside and do some gardening before it gets too hot.

It airside and on the runway .

icurhere2

Apr 28, 2009 7:38 am

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Originally Posted by kingalien (Post 11657562)

:confused: not at the gaming tables yet?

Really. I hit the empty tables well before breakfast so I can set the speed of play.

MBM3	Apr 28, 2009 7:41 am

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Originally Posted by xyzzy (Post 11657498)

Yesterday I realized that I had forgotten to split the 4-pax reservation for our Saturday MR out of PHL so EUA could run. Within an hour of doing the split the second segment EUA cleared. A quick check just now reveals that all four segments have cleared! :D :p

belynch

Apr 28, 2009 7:42 am

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Originally Posted by rolov (Post 11657576)

It airside and on the runway .

How many jetways did you have to surf before you found it?

Or did you ask directions from the El-Al security Rav4? :rolleyes:

MBM3	Apr 28, 2009 7:42 am

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Originally Posted by ConciergeMike (Post 11657553)

CLT will keep it alive. I'd love to see US restructure and be able to go back to what I'm told it was years ago. Until WN starts CLT service, US will survive.

A former VP of mine lived in PIT and really used to rave over US in their heyday, but like most he soured on them.

rolov

Apr 28, 2009 7:44 am

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Originally Posted by belynch (Post 11657612)

How many jetways did you have to surf before you found it?

Or did you ask directions from the El-Al security Rav4? :rolleyes:

The machine guys lay cover fire while you jump from jetway to jetway.

belynch

Apr 28, 2009 7:47 am

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Originally Posted by ConciergeMike (Post 11657553)

CLT will keep it alive.

No sir. The o/d numbers aren't strong enough to support the entire operation.

PHX is probably their strongest hub. Too bad there's that pesky other airline that operates out of there with a really strong presence. PHL makes the most revenue for the group but given WN's ever increasing share of market out of that hub, it's proof that US screwed that pooch for way too long.

belynch

Apr 28, 2009 7:50 am

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Originally Posted by rolov (Post 11657625)

The machine guys lay cover fire while you jump from jetway to jetway.

It was mentioned in their recent quarterly conference call that CO is considering buying US so they can convert the US LGA terminal into their NYC "FCT".

rolov

Apr 28, 2009 7:51 am

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Originally Posted by belynch (Post 11657661)

It was mentioned in their recent quarterly conference call that CO is considering buying US so they can convert the US LGA terminal into their NYC "FCT".

As long as they have EWR-LGA transfers on Burros .

fozz	Apr 28, 2009 7:54 am

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Originally Posted by icurhere2 (Post 11655989)

As a result, I have flown a US-only itinerary twice in the last 7.5 years:

A. Using all my miles on an award ticket.
B. Some ridiculously cheap itinerary to visit my best friend (~$80 DCA-BOS).

I'm just kind of speechless after that story. Way to go US!

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Originally Posted by sfogate (Post 11657380)

Avoid US at SFO, especially on a UA reroute. I heard it from one of their agents, that if a US flight is overbooked and if any of the last 10 bookings that day were made by UA, the US agents will cancel those UA reservations and send the customers back to UA.

That is so wrong I can't begin to tell you, plus it's against the rules. Any ticket that is confirmed must be given a seat on the flight or paid off.

It sounds like SFO is a bad place to be put on another carrier between US and AA. I'm sure DL will do the say once we leave :rolleyes:team.

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Originally Posted by ConciergeMike (Post 11657553)

CLT will keep it alive. I'd love to see US restructure and be able to go back to what I'm told it was years ago. Until WN starts CLT service, US will survive.

That is the day I start dancing for joy. A major needs to fail and the only better candidate than US would be DL.

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Originally Posted by belynch (Post 11657661)

It was mentioned in their recent quarterly conference call that CO is considering buying US so they can convert the US LGA terminal into their NYC "FCT".

Wouldn't that require them to have a FC?

How do you "It is not possible" in Houstonian?

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