FAQ : Reason for flight delay or cancellation - 2023 edition
#166
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#167
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No, but don't be surprised if all they do is look at the date and throw a rejection claiming weather or 'operational reasons'. They will be swamped so some will inaccurately be rejected due weather. Follow the well versed process on the main thread.
#168
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Thanks very much for the quick reply. I'm currently in the CCR hoping the later flight at least leaves on time!
#169
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BA1440 LHR to EDI Cancelation on Saturday 11th March
Hi all, really grateful if anyone can provide insight as to the real reason this flight was cancelled less than 16-hours before departure.
Flight Radar shows the plane allocated was G-TTND and this actually flew into LHR from Lisbon on the morning of the 11th. It arrived just over an hour late, but that obviously wouldn't have been known at the time of the cancellation. It was then at LHR for almost 3 1/2 hours then left LHR to fly to Nice and got there only 30 minutes late.
Weather at LHR and EDI on the Saturday was in no way extreme, so it's not that. We received an email 8-hours after the flight was due to depart mentioning the possibility of delays due to the French ATC strikes. But it's pretty clear from many other threads that BAs ground handling arrangements and staff shortages were a major contributor to the multiple delays on flights reported that day.
BA managed to run every other flight from LHR to EDI on the 10th, so in anticipation that they will try to wriggle out of the EC261 obligations, keen to see if anyone can help.
Hi all, really grateful if anyone can provide insight as to the real reason this flight was cancelled less than 16-hours before departure.
Flight Radar shows the plane allocated was G-TTND and this actually flew into LHR from Lisbon on the morning of the 11th. It arrived just over an hour late, but that obviously wouldn't have been known at the time of the cancellation. It was then at LHR for almost 3 1/2 hours then left LHR to fly to Nice and got there only 30 minutes late.
Weather at LHR and EDI on the Saturday was in no way extreme, so it's not that. We received an email 8-hours after the flight was due to depart mentioning the possibility of delays due to the French ATC strikes. But it's pretty clear from many other threads that BAs ground handling arrangements and staff shortages were a major contributor to the multiple delays on flights reported that day.
BA managed to run every other flight from LHR to EDI on the 10th, so in anticipation that they will try to wriggle out of the EC261 obligations, keen to see if anyone can help.
#170
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haha indeed and thankfully no need to repeat the experience for another three weeks. EZY i rebooked myself on got me back to LGW at more or less exactly the same time my BA flight was due to fly, albeit an hour late from its original block time
#171
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For the BA1399 MAN-LHR today which is circa 4hrs late, all I can find on expertflyer is “ZY” as a code.
any other people more knowledgeable know if this is able to be delay claimed for UK261 ?
any other people more knowledgeable know if this is able to be delay claimed for UK261 ?
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btw I asked at the airport but noon knew what actually happened!
#173
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BA1440 LHR to EDI Cancelation on Saturday 11th March
Hi all, really grateful if anyone can provide insight as to the real reason this flight was cancelled less than 16-hours before departure.
Flight Radar shows the plane allocated was G-TTND and this actually flew into LHR from Lisbon on the morning of the 11th. It arrived just over an hour late, but that obviously wouldn't have been known at the time of the cancellation. It was then at LHR for almost 3 1/2 hours then left LHR to fly to Nice and got there only 30 minutes late.
Weather at LHR and EDI on the Saturday was in no way extreme, so it's not that. We received an email 8-hours after the flight was due to depart mentioning the possibility of delays due to the French ATC strikes. But it's pretty clear from many other threads that BAs ground handling arrangements and staff shortages were a major contributor to the multiple delays on flights reported that day.
BA managed to run every other flight from LHR to EDI on the 10th, so in anticipation that they will try to wriggle out of the EC261 obligations, keen to see if anyone can help.
Hi all, really grateful if anyone can provide insight as to the real reason this flight was cancelled less than 16-hours before departure.
Flight Radar shows the plane allocated was G-TTND and this actually flew into LHR from Lisbon on the morning of the 11th. It arrived just over an hour late, but that obviously wouldn't have been known at the time of the cancellation. It was then at LHR for almost 3 1/2 hours then left LHR to fly to Nice and got there only 30 minutes late.
Weather at LHR and EDI on the Saturday was in no way extreme, so it's not that. We received an email 8-hours after the flight was due to depart mentioning the possibility of delays due to the French ATC strikes. But it's pretty clear from many other threads that BAs ground handling arrangements and staff shortages were a major contributor to the multiple delays on flights reported that day.
BA managed to run every other flight from LHR to EDI on the 10th, so in anticipation that they will try to wriggle out of the EC261 obligations, keen to see if anyone can help.
#174
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The aircraft picked up a 59 min delay on its way to TLS due to French ATC industrial action but arrived just 54 mins adrift. The return was subject to a 113 minute delay due to ATC as a result of LHR weather, arriving back in LHR 156 mins late.
Next up was BA1394 to take the aircraft to MAN which is now subject to zero ATC delay but has issues due to the lack of ramp teams at LHR, plus the delay being carried from the first two sectors. An additional 41 minutes is allocated due to late transfer baggage and late loading team, a combination of the two. On stand in MAN at 1709 vs the scheduled 1355.
The 1399 is now purely a rotational delay. The root cause is a combo of ATC industrial action and ATC delays due Heathrow weather and then the subsequent lack of LHR resources. However, BA could have chosen to swap out airframes and have additional crews in its cadre ready and waiting on standby to jump into action to minimise delays. There had been plenty of sectors cancelled due to a lack of Heathrow staff prior to the weather effects really taking bite. BA chooses not to do this for purely commercial reasons and given BA 1394 was not subject to any ATC restrictions, this is eligible for compensation I’d argue.
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BA428 LHR-AMS Tue 14th March
Just been notified that my flight to AMS tomorrow morning has been cancelled. Would be very grateful if someone could find the reason
been offered a flight three hours later and as this is a connection after Riyadh-London (hopefully boarding soon) UK261 becomes a thought if eligible
been offered a flight three hours later and as this is a connection after Riyadh-London (hopefully boarding soon) UK261 becomes a thought if eligible
#176
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Just been notified that my flight to AMS tomorrow morning has been cancelled. Would be very grateful if someone could find the reason
been offered a flight three hours later and as this is a connection after Riyadh-London (hopefully boarding soon) UK261 becomes a thought if eligible
been offered a flight three hours later and as this is a connection after Riyadh-London (hopefully boarding soon) UK261 becomes a thought if eligible
#177
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My flight to BRU -BA402- tomorrow afternoon has been cancelled. I got on the BA398 and can only hope it goes ahead!
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Ba743 gva-lhr
Would be so grateful if anyone could provide some input into the cancellation reason for todays (13/3) BA743 service GVA-LHR. Unfortunately unable to get rebooked onto same day evening services on BA or LX.
Doesn’t look to be weather related based on the app, but would really appreciate any input!
Doesn’t look to be weather related based on the app, but would really appreciate any input!
#179
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Would be so grateful if anyone could provide some input into the cancellation reason for todays (13/3) BA743 service GVA-LHR. Unfortunately unable to get rebooked onto same day evening services on BA or LX.
Doesn’t look to be weather related based on the app, but would really appreciate any input!
Doesn’t look to be weather related based on the app, but would really appreciate any input!
#180
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Cancellation codes 14th March
I’m off to go fly, makes a change I know. In the mean time here are todays known cancellations.
OPEN - operational but known about and actioned some time ago
HDLY - lack of staff
INDN - Industrial Action
TECY - Aircraft tech. Departure LHR codes
BA 428 LHR-AMS HDLY
BA 1450 LHR-EDI HDLY
BA 902 LHR-FRA HDLY
BA 936 LHR-DUS HDLY
BA 372 LHR-TLS INDN
BA 1444 LHR-EDI HDLY
BA 726 LHR-GVA INDN
BA 392 LHR-BRU OPEN
BA 540 LHR-BLQ OPEN
BA 1322 LHR-ABZ HDLY
BA 1434 LHR-EDI OPEN
BA 632 LHR-ATH OPEN
BA 438 LHR-AMS HDLY
BA 716 LHR-ZRH INDN
BA 402 LHR-BRU HDLY
BA 836 LHR-DUB HDLY
BA 818 LHR-CPH HDLY
BA 750 LHR-BSL INDN
BA 680 LHR-IST OPEN
BA 960 LHR-MUC HDLY
BA 838 LHR-DUB OPEN
BA 596 LHR-VCE OPEN
BA 1492 LHR-GLA HDLY
BA 742 LHR-GVA INDN
BA 181 LHR-EWR TECY
BA 352 LHR-NCE OPEN
BA 946 LHR-DUS OPEN
BA 157 LHR-KWI OPEN
ARRIVAL LHR CODES
BA 947 MUC-LHR OPEN
BA 597 VCE-LHR OPEN
BA 401 CAI-LHR OPEN
BA 429 AMS-LHR HDLY
BA 937 DUS-LHR HDLY
BA 903 FRA-LHR HDLY
BA 1441 EDI-LHR HDLY
BA 393 BRU-LHR OPEN
BA 373 TLS-LHR INDN
BA 1451 EDI-LHR HDLY
BA 727 GVA-LHR INDN
BA 1323 ABZ-LHR HDLY
BA 439 AMS-LHR HDLY
BA 403 BRU-LHR HDLY
BA 941 DUS-LHR OPEN
BA 591 MXP-LHR OPEN
BA 837 DUB-LHR HDLY
BA 717 ZRH-LHR INDN
BA 1493 GLA-LHR OPEN
BA 819 CPH-LHR HDLY
BA 967 HAM-LHR OPEN
BA 749 BSL-LHR INDN
BA 839 DUB-LHR OPEN
BA 1497 GLA-LHR HDLY
BA 961 MUC-LHR HDLY
BA 743 GVA-LHR INDN
OPEN - operational but known about and actioned some time ago
HDLY - lack of staff
INDN - Industrial Action
TECY - Aircraft tech. Departure LHR codes
BA 428 LHR-AMS HDLY
BA 1450 LHR-EDI HDLY
BA 902 LHR-FRA HDLY
BA 936 LHR-DUS HDLY
BA 372 LHR-TLS INDN
BA 1444 LHR-EDI HDLY
BA 726 LHR-GVA INDN
BA 392 LHR-BRU OPEN
BA 540 LHR-BLQ OPEN
BA 1322 LHR-ABZ HDLY
BA 1434 LHR-EDI OPEN
BA 632 LHR-ATH OPEN
BA 438 LHR-AMS HDLY
BA 716 LHR-ZRH INDN
BA 402 LHR-BRU HDLY
BA 836 LHR-DUB HDLY
BA 818 LHR-CPH HDLY
BA 750 LHR-BSL INDN
BA 680 LHR-IST OPEN
BA 960 LHR-MUC HDLY
BA 838 LHR-DUB OPEN
BA 596 LHR-VCE OPEN
BA 1492 LHR-GLA HDLY
BA 742 LHR-GVA INDN
BA 181 LHR-EWR TECY
BA 352 LHR-NCE OPEN
BA 946 LHR-DUS OPEN
BA 157 LHR-KWI OPEN
ARRIVAL LHR CODES
BA 947 MUC-LHR OPEN
BA 597 VCE-LHR OPEN
BA 401 CAI-LHR OPEN
BA 429 AMS-LHR HDLY
BA 937 DUS-LHR HDLY
BA 903 FRA-LHR HDLY
BA 1441 EDI-LHR HDLY
BA 393 BRU-LHR OPEN
BA 373 TLS-LHR INDN
BA 1451 EDI-LHR HDLY
BA 727 GVA-LHR INDN
BA 1323 ABZ-LHR HDLY
BA 439 AMS-LHR HDLY
BA 403 BRU-LHR HDLY
BA 941 DUS-LHR OPEN
BA 591 MXP-LHR OPEN
BA 837 DUB-LHR HDLY
BA 717 ZRH-LHR INDN
BA 1493 GLA-LHR OPEN
BA 819 CPH-LHR HDLY
BA 967 HAM-LHR OPEN
BA 749 BSL-LHR INDN
BA 839 DUB-LHR OPEN
BA 1497 GLA-LHR HDLY
BA 961 MUC-LHR HDLY
BA 743 GVA-LHR INDN