DMPHL

Long-haul Int'l F on BA or AA should still allow access for one guest. Transcon F does not.

enemigo

Forgive my ignorance- what plan is that?

ijgordon

Eh, GGLs are really no worse off access wise than when BA was in T7. That’s why I initially questioned the logic of allowing them in on domestic AA itineraries in the first place, back in post #51 here.

jjLDNY

We have been moved into an inferior lounge in every aspect that most people don't even enjoy spending time in. We also now have to listen to an increasing number of people on loudspeaker, and if not on loudspeaker, a generally louder population in a bunker with no sound absorption.

There are countless downgrades here. If I were traveling on a flagship route before, I'd have FFD access which again was a significant upgrade to the Chelsea. Pending (continued) entry details, perhaps there's a benefit(!!) for GGLs on a flagship route in Y..

As I have said, they have screwed up their hard product. Whatever they do about it will take months/years. What they do have control of right now is the soft product, the F&B. However they stripped this back within the first week. So now, unless I'm missing something there are no positives to this merge.

crazyarmadillo

Re the lounge itself, as above for a number of reasons , GGLs are certainly worse off, than before, with the Chelsea lounge Vs T7 CCR.

Re access, my logic says CCR LHR access allows domestics only, so it follows JFK Chelsea , BA's replacement for JFK CCR, should allow access aswell, now that domestics depart from the CCR replacement's new location.

Unless, of course, LHR access is to change aswell.

But I think the access and lounge problems have been clearly identified already, so I dont need to restate it all.

Just that's the way things are now... Post Covid world I imagine.... So I shall enjoy my Guinness at the whichever lounge im allowed into now.

DoctorCopper

Could someone please enlighten me?

Pre-Chelsea et al, were GGLs on AA domestic (non-transcon) allowed access to FFD?

Doc Copper

Genius1

No.

HFHFFlyer

No but then Flagship wasn’t a BA lounge. The CL is very much a BA lounge, even if it’s operated jointly with AA.

I think I am also correct in saying that CKs were not able to use FFD if on non-transcontinental domestic flights. Now they get to use the CL even if they flying economy to PHL (although from what I can tell, most don’t bother).

LHRJFK

I have been in NYC 2 days and I have spoken about Chelsea to 6+ friends/colleagues in a negative light (having previously praised the experience).

I fly every 3-4 weeks LHRJFK and have my flights booked till June. I realised today I'm not disappointed I'm angry.

I feel cheated because of those flights I will denied a nice experience (I fly F aside from my GGL and wish I was business for this leg). CCR was part of the "2nd cousin experience".

Net effect BA gets bad word of mouth when I used to be a fan.

ISTFlyer

No, ConciergeKey's don't get access to Chelsea on solely domestic itineraries except for premium transcontinental routes or when on an itinerary with a long-haul flight to Hawaii.
They are directed to the Soho Lounge like us BA GGL's

DeltaFlyingProf

How do you write to GGL services?

ISTFlyer

There is a GGL e-mail which you could send an e-mail at.

DeltaFlyingProf

I asked because I don't know how to find that famed e-mail address. I'd appreciate an answer on how to find it. I looked on the BA web site after logging in and I am not seeing anything that would give that to me.

ISTFlyer

Check your PM

ijgordon

Same for AA flyers, welcome to the club, you're not special.
Are you sure, that flying in Y or J on an AA 3-class flagship/transcon route, as a GGL, you'd get into Flagship First DINING? I think you only got into the Flagship Lounge.
Well, I said access-wise there was no downgrade. I certainly didn't say there were any upgrades