Jul 21, 2017, 11:02 pm
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The AA (Legacy US Airways) Airbus Industrie A330-200
AA announced retirement of the A330-200 in the Oct 2020 earnings report.
AA announced retirement of the A330-200 in the Oct 2020 earnings report.
Status of reconfiguration
N279AY - NEW
N280AY - NEW
N281AY - NEW
N282AY - NEW
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N285AY - NEW
N286AY - NEW
N287AY - NEW
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N292AY - NEW
N293AY - NEW
UNDER CONSTRUCTION
NOTE: The 15 A330-200 (with Rolls Royce Trent 700 engines) are being retained and updated. (The nine Pratt & Whitney equipped A330-300s have been scheduled for retirement (return to lessor at lease end) by late 2018 due to poor "fit" in the AA fleet (link).) The A330-200s will continue, however, and the launch of the retrofitted A330-200 will see
- 20 Zodiac "Envoy" type Business seats in a 1-2-1 layout (1 blocked for pilot rest)
- 21 Premium Economy (B/E Aerospace) seats in a 2-3-2 layout
- 50 Main Cabin Extra seats (same seats as Y, just greater seat pitch) 2-4-2 (2 blocked for customers requiring customer assistance)
- Main Cabin / Economy seats also 2-4-2
- Ku band satellite based Panasonic WiFi
- Individual personal entertainment screens for every seat
- Seat power
- Noise reduction headsets - Bose in Business, others for Premium Economy
Premium Economy and extended Main Cabin Extra has been installed on the A330-200 fleet. Until 15 Jan 2018, PE seats were available to Elites as MCE on those aircraft with PE; PE are available for sale on that date.
Link to A330-200 PE and MCE additions article on The Points Guy
Link to Combined AA Fleet page
Link to (non-AA) American Fleet Site, A330-200 page.
For the specific thread about the Zodiac "Envoy" Business seat, please see AA A330 "Envoy" Lie Flat All Aisle Access Business Seats (master thread)
Also see the older, archived thread on Envoy seating on the A330: A330-200 Envoy Suites
Link to Seatguru for AA A330-200
Envoy / Business (20):
* Rows 1 to 7, 4 across, private "suites", all aisle access
* Seats A and H have windows and angle out toward windows
* Seats C and F are both in the middle, angle in toward center (no windows)
* In seat entertainment with personally selectable programming
* Bose noise reduction headsets on long-haul International flights
* Empower 110 VAC / 150 VA and USB power
Premium Economy (21):
* Rows 6, 7 and 8 in 2-3-2 layout
* Seat pitch 38"
* Seat width 18.5"
* In seat entertainment with personally selectable programming
* Non-Bose noise reduction headsets on longhaul
* Empower 110 VAC / 150 VA and USB power
Main Cabin Extra (54):
* Bulkhead and Exit seats
* Others seem to be in non-standard layout
* Seat width 16.3-17.8"
* In seat entertainment with personally selectable programming
* Empower 110 VAC / 150 VA
Economy (152):
* Seat pitch 31-32"
* Seat width 16.3-17.8"
* Exits at row 23
* In seat entertainment with personally selectable programming
* Empower 110 VAC / 150 VA
New Livery (AA-style) of the A330-300: A333 in New Livery
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Airbus A330-200 / 332 [master thread]
Apr 19, 2016, 9:33 am
#346
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: PHL
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What would be the best seat in J for a solo traveler?
From my research, it appears seats 1A/H has maybe a window and a half for looking out. I think 2A/H has at least 2 windows.
1A/H may have noises/lights from the galley/restrooms but it is a day flight for me from BCN to PHL so that shouldn't be an issue.
Which would you choose?
Thanks!
From my research, it appears seats 1A/H has maybe a window and a half for looking out. I think 2A/H has at least 2 windows.
1A/H may have noises/lights from the galley/restrooms but it is a day flight for me from BCN to PHL so that shouldn't be an issue.
Which would you choose?
Thanks!
Apr 19, 2016, 10:00 am
#347
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: PHL
Programs: AA EXP, Marriott Lifetime Plat, SPG Plat, AMEX Plat, Hertz PC, Travels too Much Platinum
Posts: 3,290
I wouldn't shy away from row 1. And for privacy, window seats are great throughout the cabin - they all have direct aisle access as well. This configuration is actually pretty good for privacy overall, though less so for traveling couples. But most folks are traveling alone in business, so this was almost certainly the right priority.
Apr 19, 2016, 10:44 am
#348
Join Date: May 2011
Location: DFW
Programs: AA EXP, LT Gold
Posts: 3,148
What would be the best seat in J for a solo traveler?
From my research, it appears seats 1A/H has maybe a window and a half for looking out. I think 2A/H has at least 2 windows.
1A/H may have noises/lights from the galley/restrooms but it is a day flight for me from BCN to PHL so that shouldn't be an issue.
Which would you choose?
Thanks!
From my research, it appears seats 1A/H has maybe a window and a half for looking out. I think 2A/H has at least 2 windows.
1A/H may have noises/lights from the galley/restrooms but it is a day flight for me from BCN to PHL so that shouldn't be an issue.
Which would you choose?
Thanks!
Apr 19, 2016, 11:06 am
#349
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 45
How is the video monitor at 1H? Is it angled like the seats behind and swivels out or is it fixed at center? I think 1A/H seats are at an angle with feet toward the windows. I guess I plan to spend a good amount of time watching movies.
Thanks!
Apr 19, 2016, 6:53 pm
#350
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: PHL
Programs: AA Gold, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 480
I will say that the screen is slightly smaller and farther away from you than the swivel screens in rows 2-5.
Apr 19, 2016, 9:24 pm
#351
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 45
Thanks for the photo! Would you still take 1A/H over rows 2-5?
Apr 20, 2016, 5:29 am
#352
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: PHL
Programs: AA Gold, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 480
Aug 18, 2016, 10:27 am
#353
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 5
Flying with American Airlines A330-200 in October from PHL to MAD.
1) Are seats 7G/7H the best seats for economy class?
2) How about the bulkhead seats in row 6C/6D/6E/6F? Are they better than the ones in row 23C-F?
Thanks in advance to anyone who reply with information about these seats.
1) Are seats 7G/7H the best seats for economy class?
2) How about the bulkhead seats in row 6C/6D/6E/6F? Are they better than the ones in row 23C-F?
Thanks in advance to anyone who reply with information about these seats.
Last edited by TJC7; Aug 18, 2016 at 10:40 am
Aug 18, 2016, 1:49 pm
#354
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: PHL
Programs: Hyatt Globalist, Hilton Diamond, AA Gold, FB Gold, ITA Volare Executive
Posts: 3,294
Flying with American Airlines A330-200 in October from PHL to MAD.
1) Are seats 7G/7H the best seats for economy class?
2) How about the bulkhead seats in row 6C/6D/6E/6F? Are they better than the ones in row 23C-F?
Thanks in advance to anyone who reply with information about these seats.
1) Are seats 7G/7H the best seats for economy class?
2) How about the bulkhead seats in row 6C/6D/6E/6F? Are they better than the ones in row 23C-F?
Thanks in advance to anyone who reply with information about these seats.
Both issues are discussed in this thread.
- Some folks swear by them -- especially if you are not real tall. Others -- I'm among them -- are taller and thus less enthusiastic about bulkhead seats.
- My view is that these seats are cruddy. The bulkhead is closer than in 7G/7H.
Aug 18, 2016, 2:45 pm
#355
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 5
Great THANK YOU!!!!
Welcome to Flyertalk! ^
Both issues are discussed in this thread.
Both issues are discussed in this thread.
- Some folks swear by them -- especially if you are not real tall. Others -- I'm among them -- are taller and thus less enthusiastic about bulkhead seats.
- My view is that these seats are cruddy. The bulkhead is closer than in 7G/7H.
Aug 19, 2016, 9:57 am
#356
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 5
Biggie Fries,
Sorry for asking another question.
When you state "the bulkhead is closer than in 7G/7H", you mean the bulkhead is closer to the seats in Row 6C-F than in 7G/7H, thus making 7G/7H to have more leg room compared to seats in row 6C-F, correct?
Thank you for your time and attention. Much appreciated.
Sorry for asking another question.
When you state "the bulkhead is closer than in 7G/7H", you mean the bulkhead is closer to the seats in Row 6C-F than in 7G/7H, thus making 7G/7H to have more leg room compared to seats in row 6C-F, correct?
Thank you for your time and attention. Much appreciated.
Aug 19, 2016, 10:19 am
#357
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Location: PHL
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Right -- 7G and 7H have more leg room. Plus -- even more important -- you don't have folks crawling over you in the middle of the night (on your way to MAD).
If 7G and 7H are available, grab them. I tend to prefer 7C, the "C" because there is a forward lavatory on that (port) side, whereas the starboard lavatory on the starboard side, in front of 7G, is supposed to be for the J passengers, the non-bulkhead because I prefer to stretch legs and feet (to the extent I can) under the seat ahead rather than twisting them against hard bulkhead. But that's just me.
As for row 23, I hate the wait to get off, and -- if you don't have Global Entry -- you now have a built-in line on your way home.
Finally, be aware that MCE on an LUS plane does not mean the same thing as on an LAA plane. There is not (necessarily) more leg room.
All this said, I actually like row 7 in an A330-200. If you are a pair, and you grab 7C and 7F, you will likely have the whole row to yourselves. I've done the PHL-MAD RT a couple of times this year, and it looked like that in those forward seats on all of the legs. But on any given flight, you never know....
If 7G and 7H are available, grab them. I tend to prefer 7C, the "C" because there is a forward lavatory on that (port) side, whereas the starboard lavatory on the starboard side, in front of 7G, is supposed to be for the J passengers, the non-bulkhead because I prefer to stretch legs and feet (to the extent I can) under the seat ahead rather than twisting them against hard bulkhead. But that's just me.
As for row 23, I hate the wait to get off, and -- if you don't have Global Entry -- you now have a built-in line on your way home.
Finally, be aware that MCE on an LUS plane does not mean the same thing as on an LAA plane. There is not (necessarily) more leg room.
All this said, I actually like row 7 in an A330-200. If you are a pair, and you grab 7C and 7F, you will likely have the whole row to yourselves. I've done the PHL-MAD RT a couple of times this year, and it looked like that in those forward seats on all of the legs. But on any given flight, you never know....
Aug 19, 2016, 10:27 am
#358
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: DFW
Programs: AA Gold, HH Diamond
Posts: 193
Flying with American Airlines A330-200 in October from PHL to MAD.
1) Are seats 7G/7H the best seats for economy class?
2) How about the bulkhead seats in row 6C/6D/6E/6F? Are they better than the ones in row 23C-F?
Thanks in advance to anyone who reply with information about these seats.
1) Are seats 7G/7H the best seats for economy class?
2) How about the bulkhead seats in row 6C/6D/6E/6F? Are they better than the ones in row 23C-F?
Thanks in advance to anyone who reply with information about these seats.
6C-F looked good, but 7G/H are the best seats in Y.
Aug 19, 2016, 12:58 pm
#359
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 5
Thank you for the detailed information!! Greatly appreciated!
Right -- 7G and 7H have more leg room. Plus -- even more important -- you don't have folks crawling over you in the middle of the night (on your way to MAD).
If 7G and 7H are available, grab them. I tend to prefer 7C, the "C" because there is a forward lavatory on that (port) side, whereas the starboard lavatory on the starboard side, in front of 7G, is supposed to be for the J passengers, the non-bulkhead because I prefer to stretch legs and feet (to the extent I can) under the seat ahead rather than twisting them against hard bulkhead. But that's just me.
As for row 23, I hate the wait to get off, and -- if you don't have Global Entry -- you now have a built-in line on your way home.
Finally, be aware that MCE on an LUS plane does not mean the same thing as on an LAA plane. There is not (necessarily) more leg room.
All this said, I actually like row 7 in an A330-200. If you are a pair, and you grab 7C and 7F, you will likely have the whole row to yourselves. I've done the PHL-MAD RT a couple of times this year, and it looked like that in those forward seats on all of the legs. But on any given flight, you never know....
If 7G and 7H are available, grab them. I tend to prefer 7C, the "C" because there is a forward lavatory on that (port) side, whereas the starboard lavatory on the starboard side, in front of 7G, is supposed to be for the J passengers, the non-bulkhead because I prefer to stretch legs and feet (to the extent I can) under the seat ahead rather than twisting them against hard bulkhead. But that's just me.
As for row 23, I hate the wait to get off, and -- if you don't have Global Entry -- you now have a built-in line on your way home.
Finally, be aware that MCE on an LUS plane does not mean the same thing as on an LAA plane. There is not (necessarily) more leg room.
All this said, I actually like row 7 in an A330-200. If you are a pair, and you grab 7C and 7F, you will likely have the whole row to yourselves. I've done the PHL-MAD RT a couple of times this year, and it looked like that in those forward seats on all of the legs. But on any given flight, you never know....
Aug 19, 2016, 12:59 pm
#360
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 5
7G/H are great and the best seats in my opinion. My wife and I flew them DUB-CLT last September. Lots of space. I'm 6' and i had plenty of room to do a full leg extension and easily move around my wife to exit from the window seat. I did used the biz restroom that is directly in front of the seats (no one was in line).
6C-F looked good, but 7G/H are the best seats in Y.
6C-F looked good, but 7G/H are the best seats in Y.