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The AA (Legacy US Airways) Airbus Industrie A330-200
AA announced retirement of the A330-200 in the Oct 2020 earnings report.
AA announced retirement of the A330-200 in the Oct 2020 earnings report.
Status of reconfiguration
N279AY - NEW
N280AY - NEW
N281AY - NEW
N282AY - NEW
N283AY - NEW
N284AY - NEW
N285AY - NEW
N286AY - NEW
N287AY - NEW
N288AY - NEW
N289AY - NEW
N290AY - NEW
N291AY - NEW
N292AY - NEW
N293AY - NEW
UNDER CONSTRUCTION
NOTE: The 15 A330-200 (with Rolls Royce Trent 700 engines) are being retained and updated. (The nine Pratt & Whitney equipped A330-300s have been scheduled for retirement (return to lessor at lease end) by late 2018 due to poor "fit" in the AA fleet (link).) The A330-200s will continue, however, and the launch of the retrofitted A330-200 will see
- 20 Zodiac "Envoy" type Business seats in a 1-2-1 layout (1 blocked for pilot rest)
- 21 Premium Economy (B/E Aerospace) seats in a 2-3-2 layout
- 50 Main Cabin Extra seats (same seats as Y, just greater seat pitch) 2-4-2 (2 blocked for customers requiring customer assistance)
- Main Cabin / Economy seats also 2-4-2
- Ku band satellite based Panasonic WiFi
- Individual personal entertainment screens for every seat
- Seat power
- Noise reduction headsets - Bose in Business, others for Premium Economy
Premium Economy and extended Main Cabin Extra has been installed on the A330-200 fleet. Until 15 Jan 2018, PE seats were available to Elites as MCE on those aircraft with PE; PE are available for sale on that date.
Link to A330-200 PE and MCE additions article on The Points Guy
Link to Combined AA Fleet page
Link to (non-AA) American Fleet Site, A330-200 page.
For the specific thread about the Zodiac "Envoy" Business seat, please see AA A330 "Envoy" Lie Flat All Aisle Access Business Seats (master thread)
Also see the older, archived thread on Envoy seating on the A330: A330-200 Envoy Suites
Link to Seatguru for AA A330-200
Envoy / Business (20):
* Rows 1 to 7, 4 across, private "suites", all aisle access
* Seats A and H have windows and angle out toward windows
* Seats C and F are both in the middle, angle in toward center (no windows)
* In seat entertainment with personally selectable programming
* Bose noise reduction headsets on long-haul International flights
* Empower 110 VAC / 150 VA and USB power
Premium Economy (21):
* Rows 6, 7 and 8 in 2-3-2 layout
* Seat pitch 38"
* Seat width 18.5"
* In seat entertainment with personally selectable programming
* Non-Bose noise reduction headsets on longhaul
* Empower 110 VAC / 150 VA and USB power
Main Cabin Extra (54):
* Bulkhead and Exit seats
* Others seem to be in non-standard layout
* Seat width 16.3-17.8"
* In seat entertainment with personally selectable programming
* Empower 110 VAC / 150 VA
Economy (152):
* Seat pitch 31-32"
* Seat width 16.3-17.8"
* Exits at row 23
* In seat entertainment with personally selectable programming
* Empower 110 VAC / 150 VA
New Livery (AA-style) of the A330-300: A333 in New Livery
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Airbus A330-200 / 332 [master thread]
#316
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Okay - have to change my flight from PHL to MCO
Options are the A330 or A321
Which is better in first? - I am assuming the A330 as it seems better seats?
Although it doesn't have Wifi - not a major issue.
Flying over from Dublin on the A330 anyway, so any reason to opt for the A321?
Options are the A330 or A321
Which is better in first? - I am assuming the A330 as it seems better seats?
Although it doesn't have Wifi - not a major issue.
Flying over from Dublin on the A330 anyway, so any reason to opt for the A321?
#317
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Okay - have to change my flight from PHL to MCO
Options are the A330 or A321
Which is better in first? - I am assuming the A330 as it seems better seats?
Although it doesn't have Wifi - not a major issue.
Flying over from Dublin on the A330 anyway, so any reason to opt for the A321?
Options are the A330 or A321
Which is better in first? - I am assuming the A330 as it seems better seats?
Although it doesn't have Wifi - not a major issue.
Flying over from Dublin on the A330 anyway, so any reason to opt for the A321?
#319
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Any thoughts on seats 23C/D/E/F? 7G/H are taken, so it was 23C/D or two random seats on the side... I picked 23C/D, but if I've just shot myself in the foot please warn me so I can fix it before my departure date comes.
#320
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I have flown a lot in the back of these planes and no way would I take 23C/D/E/F ... First, it's in the way back; second, not much leg room in that bulkhead; and third -- the worst -- there are a lot of folks in the back without much airplane etiquette, which means I guarantee some young guys will step over you moving from aisle to aisle.
I'd go for 7C and 7F (if you are two) and hope for no one in between (then swap out if need be). I kind of prefer the port side since there is an extra front toilet.
I'd go for 7C and 7F (if you are two) and hope for no one in between (then swap out if need be). I kind of prefer the port side since there is an extra front toilet.
#321
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I'm flying DUB-PHL tomorrow and the seat map is quite sparse; I was able to change back to our original pair of side seats up toward the front, so row 23 is once again vacant in the centre. Thanks for the advice.
#322
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Any advice on best A332 biz seats when traveling with children. (2 adults, 2 children, 5&6 yrs)
Choices seem to be;
1) 2 middle pairs with adult/child in each pair (C,F) - cannot see one another, but proximity means easier to help kid with meal, headphones, TV etc.
2) Block of 4 at same aisle (eg 4F,4H & 5F,5H) - Everyone can see everyone else (kinda), but more difficult for adult to assist kid with meal, TV etc, as are seated across the aisle.
3) Straight row across with kids in center pair (A,C,F,H) - hybrid of first 2 options
Kids are well travelled and as a night flight will mostly be sleeping, however this is first experience with reverse herringbone layout so unsure what to go for.
Choices seem to be;
1) 2 middle pairs with adult/child in each pair (C,F) - cannot see one another, but proximity means easier to help kid with meal, headphones, TV etc.
2) Block of 4 at same aisle (eg 4F,4H & 5F,5H) - Everyone can see everyone else (kinda), but more difficult for adult to assist kid with meal, TV etc, as are seated across the aisle.
3) Straight row across with kids in center pair (A,C,F,H) - hybrid of first 2 options
Kids are well travelled and as a night flight will mostly be sleeping, however this is first experience with reverse herringbone layout so unsure what to go for.
#323
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Any advice on best A332 biz seats when traveling with children. (2 adults, 2 children, 5&6 yrs)
Choices seem to be;
1) 2 middle pairs with adult/child in each pair (C,F) - cannot see one another, but proximity means easier to help kid with meal, headphones, TV etc.
2) Block of 4 at same aisle (eg 4F,4H & 5F,5H) - Everyone can see everyone else (kinda), but more difficult for adult to assist kid with meal, TV etc, as are seated across the aisle.
3) Straight row across with kids in center pair (A,C,F,H) - hybrid of first 2 options
Kids are well travelled and as a night flight will mostly be sleeping, however this is first experience with reverse herringbone layout so unsure what to go for.
Choices seem to be;
1) 2 middle pairs with adult/child in each pair (C,F) - cannot see one another, but proximity means easier to help kid with meal, headphones, TV etc.
2) Block of 4 at same aisle (eg 4F,4H & 5F,5H) - Everyone can see everyone else (kinda), but more difficult for adult to assist kid with meal, TV etc, as are seated across the aisle.
3) Straight row across with kids in center pair (A,C,F,H) - hybrid of first 2 options
Kids are well travelled and as a night flight will mostly be sleeping, however this is first experience with reverse herringbone layout so unsure what to go for.
Last edited by Randyk47; Dec 24, 2015 at 11:54 am
#324
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Any advice on best A332 biz seats when traveling with children. (2 adults, 2 children, 5&6 yrs)
Choices seem to be;
1) 2 middle pairs with adult/child in each pair (C,F) - cannot see one another, but proximity means easier to help kid with meal, headphones, TV etc.
2) Block of 4 at same aisle (eg 4F,4H & 5F,5H) - Everyone can see everyone else (kinda), but more difficult for adult to assist kid with meal, TV etc, as are seated across the aisle.
3) Straight row across with kids in center pair (A,C,F,H) - hybrid of first 2 options
Kids are well travelled and as a night flight will mostly be sleeping, however this is first experience with reverse herringbone layout so unsure what to go for.
Choices seem to be;
1) 2 middle pairs with adult/child in each pair (C,F) - cannot see one another, but proximity means easier to help kid with meal, headphones, TV etc.
2) Block of 4 at same aisle (eg 4F,4H & 5F,5H) - Everyone can see everyone else (kinda), but more difficult for adult to assist kid with meal, TV etc, as are seated across the aisle.
3) Straight row across with kids in center pair (A,C,F,H) - hybrid of first 2 options
Kids are well travelled and as a night flight will mostly be sleeping, however this is first experience with reverse herringbone layout so unsure what to go for.
#326
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#327
Join Date: Sep 2011
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A330-200: best seat for honeymooners in business?
Hello, well I love flying.. .and my wife, too :-). Could you please give any advice about seating on AA A330-200?
Sure, I know seatguru.. but... is it best to take 2 middle seats or 1 window + 1 isle? On the pictures it looks like the seats of the old 777 first class... which means shouting in order to talk.
Thanks for any hint!!
Sure, I know seatguru.. but... is it best to take 2 middle seats or 1 window + 1 isle? On the pictures it looks like the seats of the old 777 first class... which means shouting in order to talk.
Thanks for any hint!!
#328
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Hello, well I love flying.. .and my wife, too :-). Could you please give any advice about seating on AA A330-200?
Sure, I know seatguru.. but... is it best to take 2 middle seats or 1 window + 1 isle? On the pictures it looks like the seats of the old 777 first class... which means shouting in order to talk.
Thanks for any hint!!
Sure, I know seatguru.. but... is it best to take 2 middle seats or 1 window + 1 isle? On the pictures it looks like the seats of the old 777 first class... which means shouting in order to talk.
Thanks for any hint!!
#329
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 78
So you need to realize that these seats, which are excellent, are designed for individual privacy and rest, and not communication with those around you. In the center pair, your feet are aimed at each other, which puts your heads further apart, so if reclined at all, it's tougher to talk to or see your seat mate. Many folks traveling together therefore will choose a window seat paired with the seat across the aisle (it's a 1-2-1 configuration) which, in spite of the aisle, can be easier to communicate with since your heads are closer than on the center pair as the window seat has the feet closest to the wall as well.
-Reece
#330
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DUB-PHL A330 Business Class
We currently have three single window seats (rows 1,2 &3) reserved for myself, wife and daughter.
Would it be any better to have 2 centres and a window to allow them to chat?
I have heard that it is difficult to see one another and chat in the centre seats?
Would it be any better to have 2 centres and a window to allow them to chat?
I have heard that it is difficult to see one another and chat in the centre seats?