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Old Oct 24, 2015, 5:28 am
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Why would a DL SkyPesos member do this now that RDMs are earned on ticket cost?

Either for the MQMs, or to actually visit SIN FWIW there are posts in the thread about similar itineraries on AA.

How do I search for dates/prices?

One way is to use ITA Matrix. Click on "Advanced routing codes" and enter something along the lines of:
  • outbound: dl+ dtw nrt
  • inbound: dl+ nrt dtw

NOTE: Basic Economy (E) fares have been spotted on this route and come with heavy restrictions. If you want to exclude E fares from your search you can add f ~bc=e in the separate "extension codes" box

See post 1329 for some screenshots (which are now out of date, the routing codes and extension code have been split into two separate input boxes)

You may wish to experiment with things like dtw,atl or x or even x+. Read the advanced routing codes help for more ideas. (DL no longer flies JFK-NRT nonstop)

I found an itinerary that works for me, how do I book it?
  • you can try a multi-city booking on Kayak or Google Flights and click through to Delta (you can save some effort by omitting the implicit/forced connection through NRT for example)
  • if you are comfortable installing add-ons etc. you can use the ITA userscript (see the wiki at the top of that thread)
  • for the less technically-inclined there is also the Book with Matrix helper site (and its related FT thread)
  • call in if none of the above methods work or e.g. you want to add a stopover

Do I need a visa?

No visa is needed for transits (or in fact for visiting up to 90 days, subject to qualifications)
You can get your boarding passes for your Delta return flight at Transit Lounge D, which opens 3 hours before departure.

What are the best seats?

Assuming you're stuck in Y (no GUCs etc.)
Picking a seat (Delta One, Boeing 777)
Master A330-300 (A333) Best Seats Thread

Will there be wifi on the international legs?

DL now touts International Wi-Fi is available on 100% of all wide body, long-haul aircraft providing near global coverage. Given "long-haul" this may not apply to NRT-SIN.

777s should all have wifi: thread #1, thread #2; although it is still subject to coverage/availability, seems to drop out in the far northern parts of the route, and coming down the Russian coast it seemed like http was slow but working and anything else like https took forever and/or was blocked

Delta doesn't seem to sell the Gogo global day pass on their web site but you can buy it directly from Gogo. You can use the same pass on both domestic and international flights in any order as long as it is within 24 hours.

FlexPerks VISA single-flight passes can NOT be used on international flights (they do not appear as a redemption choice when you sign in to Gogo in flight)

Other related threads:

Delta 763 International Wifi Installation Progress (especially posts #7 and #9)

Delta to add Gogo WiFi to international fleet

SIN airport facilities

If you are doing a quick turn, you can remain airside the whole time. There are a number of 24-hour food outlets in the transit mall areas (center of each terminal)

Each of the 3 terminals has their Transit Hotel on Level 3. Prices are similar for all:
-Terminal 1 - Plaza Premium Lounge recently opened Aerotel. Book at: Aerotel Terminal 1
-Terminal 2 and 3 - Harilela Hospitality runs an Ambassador Transit Hotel in each Terminal, above the Orchid Garden and Movie Theater, respectively. Book at: Ambassador Transit Hotels

Note that you can actually stay in either of the 3, regardless of which Terminal you arrive in. However, when leaving the airport, you need to exit through the same Terminal as that you arrived in.

FT thread on Singapore Airport Lounges

Airport website links:
NOTE: even though the DNATA Sky View lounge lists "Delta Airlines" on the airport web page and appears on a skyteam.com lounge search, it is considered by Delta to be third-party-operated, thus if you are STE+ in Y you will not have access. People have reported gaining access on an upgrade to J but YMMV.

There is free wifi either by receiving a text message code, or by scanning your passport. Previous posts mention just giving an email address, maybe try at the info desks. There are also free Internet stations.

NOTE for U.S. and other ~110V travelers: Singapore uses 230V/50Hz. There are plenty of USB charging ports in the seating areas, and most wall adapters for electronics these days are dual voltage (look for writing on the plug like "Input: 100V-240V") but if not or if you need to plug something else in, bring plug and voltage adapters to be safe.

Things to do in SIN

In descriptions of things to see/do airside, when you see "garden" read "smoking area" especially if you won't be there during daylight, the only other main reason people go there is to smoke.

SkyTrain between terminals runs from 5am-2:30am but you can always walk between any of the terminals as well.

Little More than 24 Hours in Singapore especially post #5 in that thread
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/25605453-post1047.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/24452870-post836.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/24064053-post794.html
Best practices for ~5 hour turnaround at SIN
3 perfect days in Singapore
Singapore's MRT (Mass Rapid Transit)
Destinations > Asia > Singapore FT forum
cheap transportation to Marina Bay Sands (or any hotel) for S$9

Things to do on a long connection through NRT:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/24426838-post835.html

Narita Int'l. Airport (NRT) Layover & Hotel Master Thread

There is free wifi in NRT.

Returning to the US

Even if you don't have Global Entry, CBP has a Mobile Passport Control app -- see program info and app website for d/l and list of participating airports which includes ATL (but not DTW)

You will have to pick up checked bags if any, and then everyone has to go through TSA security. International connections usually have their own checkpoint but it may not have PreCheck or CLEAR. If you want to take advantage of either of these, see airport-specific info below.

Through Delta's partnership CLEAR is free for DM, $79 for other Medallions, and $99 for General Members. Click here for more info on the partnership or to sign up.

Relevant FT threads:
Returning via ATL:

Minimum Connection Transfer Time at Atlanta (ATL): The Definitive Thread

CLEAR is now open in ATL but only at the domestic end.

For PreCheck, if you arrive in F, when you exit the hallway from customs there is a ticket desk in front of you. Normally the belt for re-checking bags on the left, and TSA screening beyond that. For PreCheck turn instead to the right (away from the drop-off luggage belt) and exit into the arrivals area, go up the escalators, and then you use the regular F terminal security checkpoint.

(It seems like NRT-ATL usually lands in E though... anyone have info to share?)

Returning via DTW:

Minimum Connection Transfer Time at Detroit (DTW): The Definitive Thread

When you exit customs normally you are directed to the right for rescreening. For PreCheck or CLEAR exit to the left as if you are an local Detroit arriving passenger and you will see some escalators in front of you. Go up 3 sets of escalators (there is a security checkpoint after the 2nd set but it does not have PreCheck). There is also an elevator.

The configuration as of Jan 2017 was, CLEAR without PreCheck was near the top of the escalators. If you have both CLEAR and PreCheck, there is a separate CLEAR lane on the right.

Duty Free Liquids

This post from 2014 says liquor etc must be checked as they cannot pass through screening in NRT/TSA. However this may have changed since then, and duty-free purchases in a Sealed Tamper-Evident Bag (STEB) might be permitted:

http://www.narita-airport.jp/en/secu...ection_ss.html

https://www.tsa.gov/travel/security-...g/liquids-rule

FT: Bringing Duty-Free Liquids into USA with a Connecting Flight

If you have any experience with this, please share!

IRROPS handling:

Good at least for one DM: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/21923836-post7.html

Trip Reports/Tips:

2016: Dec, Nov, Oct #1, Oct #2, Oct #3, Sep, Apr, Feb

2015: Nov #1, Nov #2, Oct, Sep

2014: Dec, Nov #1, Nov #2, Nov #3, Nov #4, Nov #5, Oct, Sep #1, Sep #2

2013: Oct
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[FARE GONE] DL: SFO-ATL/JFK-NRT-SIN $1,232.30 ai RT (25,318 mi; 4.9 cpm)

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Old Jul 17, 2016, 5:19 pm
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Smile Fares Jul 17 SFO Dep

LAX ATL NRT SIN NRT JFK LAX 24,634 MQM
$746 ai 3.0 cpm Sep 26-29 BEST PRICE
$755 ai 3.1 cpm Oct 24-27
$806 ai 3.3 cpmSep 12-15, 19-22
$812 ai 3.3 cpmOct 17-20
$971 ai 3.9 cpm Oct 3-6
$982 ai 4.0 cpm Oct 10-13

LAX ATL NRT SIN NRT ATL LAX 24,248 MQM
$741 ai 3.1 cpm Sep 9-12, 19-22, 26-29, Oct 17-20
$755 ai 3.1 cpm Oct 17-20
$813 ai 3.4 cpm Oct 24-27
$820 ai 3.4 cpm Oct 31-Nov 3, 21-24
$846 ai 3.5 cpm Oct 3-6, 10-13
$862 ai 3.6 cpm Nov 14-17
$931 ai 3.8 cpm Nov 28-Dec 1
$975 ai 4.0 cpm Dec 5-8

Prices from Kayak.com. Comments welcomed, please post lower prices. Dates not given higher prices.
Happy Travels! Prices higher this week but some good prices still available. If you want a good price, get your ticket now, don't wait till the prices go higher. Anytime you can get a fare close to 3 cpm you are doing well! Blessings!

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Old Jul 24, 2016, 10:05 am
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Smile Fares July 24 LAX and SFO Dep

LAX ATL NRT SIN NRT LAX 24,248 MQM
$720 ai 2.97 cpm Sep 12-15, 19-22, 26-29 BEST FARE
$724 ai 2.99 cpm Oct 10-13
$728 ai 3.00 cpm Nov 7-10
$734 ai 3.03 cpm Oct 24-27, 31-Nov 3
$806 ai 3.32 cpm Nov 21-24 THANKSGIVING WEEK!
$828 ai 3.41 cpm Oct 3-6, 17-20
$963 ai 3.97 cpm Nov 14-17

LAX ATL NRT SIN NRT JFK LAX 24,634 MQM
$832 ai 3.38 cpm Sep 12-15, Oct 17-20
$844 ai 3.43 cpm Sep 26-29
$859 ai 3.48 cpm Oct 10-13, 24-27, Nov 7-10
$883 ai 3.58 cpm Sep 19-22
$957 ai 3.88 cpm Oct 3-6


Still some good fares availabile for a MR, tried SFO Dep, all much higher with lowest price for SFO ATL NRT SIN NRT ATL SFO 24,634 MQM
$987 ai 4.01 cpm Sep 26-29, Oct 3-6, 10-13, 17-20, 24-27
Other dates not given higher prices! Comments encouraged, please post lower prices! . Prices from Kayak.com

Happy Travels! Blessings! Get your MR now before prices go higher!

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Old Jul 24, 2016, 1:28 pm
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Still some good prices and returns in there.
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Old Jul 25, 2016, 11:58 pm
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Smile SFO Dep

Basically SFO dep are about $100 higher than LAX dep and the lowest prices are the LAX ATL NRT SIN NRT ATL LAX routing

SFO ATL NRT SIN NRT ATL LAX 24,634 MQM
$843 ai 3.42 cpm Sep 12-15, 19-22, 26-29, Oct 3-6, 10-13, 17-20, 24-27, 31-Nov 3 LOWEST PRICE BUT NOT A GOOD ONE, BETTER THROUGH LAX
$849 ai 3.45 cpm, Nov 7-10
$943 ai 3.83 cpm Nov 21-24 - THANKSGIVING WEEK
$956 ai 3.88 cpm Dec 5-8

SFO ATL NRT SIN NRT JFK SFO 24,926 MQM
$981 ai 3.94 cpm Sep 26-29

Dates not given prices higher, prices from Kayak.com
Happy Travels! Please post lower prices. Comments encouraged. Blessings!
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Old Jul 28, 2016, 7:15 am
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While not necessarily going to be the best deal for a mileage run, if one happens to be laying over in SIN during Sept 16-18, they could catch the Singapore Formula 1 race:

https://www.formula1.com/en/champion...Singapore.html
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Old Jul 28, 2016, 4:38 pm
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Originally Posted by BHammy
While not necessarily going to be the best deal for a mileage run, if one happens to be laying over in SIN during Sept 16-18, they could catch the Singapore Formula 1 race:

https://www.formula1.com/en/champion...Singapore.html
When you squeeze in a motel for F1 and still stay under 4cpm... ^
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Old Jul 28, 2016, 6:57 pm
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Smile Good News and Bad News

Bad news first, won't make it in time for the F! GP but even if I were there I am not sure I would want to deal with the crowds, have seen the course where the race is held. If you are close to the track use ear plugs as it will be noisy.
Now for the good news got 3/4 UG on TP part of the trip NRT SIN SIN NRT NRT JFK and we are waitlisted for DTW NRT and all portions is the US but most should come through, the DTW NRT leg has lots of empty seats so should make it but don't know if we will get the UD but time will tell. If anyone is going out on Sep 19 LAX ATL DTW NRT SIN let us know and we will look for you, return on Sep 28 SIN NRT JFK LAX for 24,759 MQM for $653.06 ai - $200 TVC for net of $453.06 ai which lowers cpm cost from 2.64 to 1.83 cpm. Only thing better would have been to have a TCV for $300 or more or to get the ticket with FLEX PERKS points which I tried to do but they want 80,000 per ticket and for this price it should have been 40,000 so it was better off to buy. If you fly in the US for that fare you won't get many MQM. Our positioning flights to LAX WERE 11,000 RDM and $11.20 per person RT SMF LAX. Those miles are valuable if used judiciously and if you book your early enough many times you can get a RT for 25,000 RDM so plan wisely. Hope someone will enjoy the F! GP in SiN unfortunately it won't be us.

Have a wonderful weekend and please post lower prices and continue to add comments. If anyone is interested I can post a link for a video we made when we were diving with sharks off of West Palm Beach, FL in June, it is on you tube and is about 6:15. Was very enjoyable. No tooth marks.
Happy Travels! Blessings!

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Old Jul 31, 2016, 2:29 pm
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Smile Fares July 31 LAX Dep

Best Fares from LAX - SFO consistently higher

LAX ATL NRT SIN NRT JFK LAX 24,634 MQM
$645 ai 2.62 cpm Sep 26-29 LOWEST FARE ^ ^
$749 ai 3.04 cpm Oct 17-20
$765 ai 3.11 cpm Sep 19-22, Oct 3-6, 10-13

LAX ATL NRT SIN NRT ATL LAX 24,248 MQM
$643 ai 2.65 cpm Sep 12-15, 19-22, 26-29, Oct 17-20
$645 ai 2.66 cpm Oct 3-6, 10-13
$650 ai 2.68 cpm Oct 24-27
$734 ai 3.03 cpm Oct 31-Nov 3, 7-10, 21-24 (Thanksgiving week)
$807 ai 3.33 cpm Nov 14-17
$869 ai 3.58 cpm Dec 5-8

Prices from Kayak.com, dates not given - higher prices. still some good prices but some of fares have only one or two seats left at those prices, if you are going, you need to commit and get your ticket especially if you want the lowest prices at <$650. Your choice - fly now, weep later if you miss the opportunity. Sep still has some good fares. All these prices will require a positioning flight to LAX unless you live in that area and that will increase your costs. You can try other dates of the week and see what it does to the prices if you want to fly on a weekend but usually increases the price but it may not be a large amount but you can try the dates and see!

Happy Travels! Blessings!
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Old Aug 10, 2016, 8:41 am
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Bad news if true:

NRT-KIX/BKK/JFK axed in October; MSP-NRT next; LAX-HND to 777

EDIT: Delta news link: Executive Q&A: Delta remains committed to Asia despite Haneda agreement

Delta today announced it will cancel service this fall from New York-JFK to Tokyo-Narita, and from Tokyo-Narita to Osaka and Bangkok, but remains committed to supporting a strong Asia-Pacific network.

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Old Aug 10, 2016, 7:34 pm
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Smile Fares Aug 10 LAX dep

LAX ATL NRT SIN NRT JFK LAX 24, 634 MQM
$653 ai 2.65 cpm Sep 19-26, 19-27, Oct 10-13, 17-20
$655 ai 2.66 cpm Sep 12-15
$657 ai 2.67 cpm Sep 19-22, 19-28
$720 ai 2.92 cpm Sep 19-23
$769 ai 3.00 cpm Sep 26-29, Oct 3-6
$949 ai 3,85 cpm Oct 24-27

LAX ATL NRT SIN NRT ATL LAX 24, 248 MQM
$643 2.65 cpm Sep 12-15, 19-22, Oct 10-13, 17-20
$651 2.68 cpm Oct 24-27
$749-754 ai 3.11 cpm Sep 26-29, Oct 3-6
$865-875 ai 3.62 cpm Oct 31-Nov 3, 7-10, 21-24 (Thanksgiving week), Dec 5-8

Prices from Kayak.com. If you have trouble booking tickets read the wiki or send me a PM with your phone number. Use multi city - LAX ATL, ATL SIN, SIN JFK, JFK LAX or LAX ATL, ATL SIN, SIN ATL, ATL LAX. You will automatically go thru NRT. Dates not given higher fares. Best fares thru ATL out and back and as noted in previous post, in the fall there won't be flights from JFK thru NRT to SIN direct but will go thru LAX or PDX or DTW or SEA or some other city. There will still be the ATL NRT flight going. If you get lower fares, please post, comments welcomed. You will note some of the dates for Sep 19 dep are longer than the usual 3 days, only did that as we will be doing a flight out Sep 19 and returning Sep 28 as noted in earlier posts. Have UG for all all TP legs except DTW NRT but should make that as there is still lots of space in J.

Zorak, thanks for the info about JFK NRT changes in the fall. That is too bad that they are dropping that flight.

Happy Travels!. Have a wonderful rest of the week and weekend! Blessings!

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Old Aug 12, 2016, 7:00 pm
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Old Aug 16, 2016, 10:38 pm
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Thanks for reading and your kind comments

Originally Posted by olegator
Thank you for your amazing work Csfing1!
People must be too busy watching the Olympics this week. Is anyone going to join us going out Sep 19 LAX ATL DTW NRT SIN or coming back Sep 28 SIN NRT JFK LAX, if so please let us know and if anyone will be in SIN Sep 22-27 let us know we would like to meet you. We have presentations and appointments on many of the days but not all of them or if any of you are in LAX area we are in this area until Aug 23. Will check fares and post in next 24 hours.
Happy Travels! Were any of you doing a MR last week when they had all the delays, if you were please share your experience and how you were treated by DL. Blessings!
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Due to the JFK-NRT cancellation in the fall, Delta was pretty good changing routing and preserving miles for me.

It took a while and an approval but routed LAX-DTW-PVG (overnight)-NRT-SIN-NRT-ATL-LAX. GUC upgrades were available from DTW-PVG both of my dates. I also cleared today on PVG-NRT and NRT-ATL for a November run.

You can make the DTW-PVG cxn by leaving on the 7am flight to DTW so no domestic red eye.
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Old Aug 17, 2016, 12:09 pm
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Smile Thanks for your info and comments

Originally Posted by Mileage Lover
Due to the JFK-NRT cancellation in the fall, Delta was pretty good changing routing and preserving miles for me.

It took a while and an approval but routed LAX-DTW-PVG (overnight)-NRT-SIN-NRT-ATL-LAX. GUC upgrades were available from DTW-PVG both of my dates. I also cleared today on PVG-NRT and NRT-ATL for a November run.

You can make the DTW-PVG cxn by leaving on the 7am flight to DTW so no domestic red eye.
Thanks for your information, when are you making your MR and how many MQM do you get that way?How many hours will you have in PVG and do they put your up at a hotel and all all your flights on DL? Thanks for your reply and information. Have a great trip! Blessings
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Old Aug 17, 2016, 12:30 pm
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Smile Fares Aug 17 LAX Dep

LAX ATL NRT SIN NRT JFK LAX 24, 634 MQM
$651 ai 2.64 cpm Sep 19-28, 19-27 BEST FARE Please note longer stay in SIN
$711 ai 2.89 cpm Sep 19-23
$724 ai 2.94 cpm Sep 12-15, 19-22, 26-29
$729 ai 2.96 cpm Sep 19-29, 19-26, Oct 3-6, 17-20
$867 ai 3.52 cpm Sep 19-25
$880 ai 3.57 cpm Oct 10-13

LAX ATL NRT SIN NRT ATL LAX 24, 248 MQM
$644 ai 2.66 cpm Sep 12-15, 19-22, 26-29, Oct 3-6, 17-20
$653 ai 2.69 cpm Oct 10-13
$736 ai 3.01 cpm Oct 24-27
$799 ai 3.30 cpm Nov 7-10, 21-24 (Thanksgiving week)
$942 ai 3.88 cpm Oct 31-Nov 3

Still some good prices avail for <3.0 cpm, check dates carefully the ones through JFK in Sep have longer times in SIN if you want to sightseeing and have a few days vacation. We will be there Sep 21-27. Dates for our trip Sep 19-28 with routing LAX ATL DTW NRT SIN SIN NRT JFK LAX. If anyone traveling those dates let us know. Have UG on all TP legs except DTW NRT but should make that as lots of seats avail in J.
Have a Great Week and keep your comments coming and please post lower fares! Blessings!

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