Mar 3, 2017, 10:56 pm
Last edit by: WineCountryUA
Working summary (Updated May 2018)
ORD - OPEN near C16, opened Dec 1 2016
SFO - OPEN in previous UC space in International Terminal G, April 30, 2018 (occupies previous UC+ SQ + BR lounge space)
EWR - OPEN old UC near Gate C120, June 4, 2018
IAH - OPEN - E11/E12, top floor of existing UC June 29, 2018
LAX - OPEN 12 January 2019 - Above rotunda near gate 73
IAD - "Under Construction" (2020?) - near C4, existing GFL (GFL converting to UC end of June 2018)
LHR - "Future location" - T2 opposite B46 at existing GFL (still open)
NRT - "Future location" - above existing UC
HKG - "Future location" - above gate 61, existing GFL (still open)
Polaris Progress Tracker 2017.06.26
Original summary
http://view.ceros.com/united/polaris-tracker-mobile/p/2
From [email protected] on 02/27/2017:
This does not preclude any rumors from being true.
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ORD - OPEN near C16, opened Dec 1 2016
SFO - OPEN in previous UC space in International Terminal G, April 30, 2018 (occupies previous UC+ SQ + BR lounge space)
EWR - OPEN old UC near Gate C120, June 4, 2018
IAH - OPEN - E11/E12, top floor of existing UC June 29, 2018
LAX - OPEN 12 January 2019 - Above rotunda near gate 73
IAD - "Under Construction" (2020?) - near C4, existing GFL (GFL converting to UC end of June 2018)
LHR - "Future location" - T2 opposite B46 at existing GFL (still open)
NRT - "Future location" - above existing UC
HKG - "Future location" - above gate 61, existing GFL (still open)
Polaris Progress Tracker 2017.06.26
United has installed a Polaris Progress Tracker on its webpage, which tracks the progress of aircraft types/routes with Polaris seats and Polaris lounge openings. Here is the link:
http://view.ceros.com/united/polaris...-desktop-4/p/1
Under the "Aircraft" tab, all currently existing routes serviced by the new 773 (SFO-HKG, EWR-TLV and SFO-NRT are listed) are listed as well as (yet to be converted) 763 and 772 types. For the 763 the listed starting date is "Fall 2017." For the 772 the webpage states "Winter 2017," which sounds optimistic to me as it sounds more like 4th quarter of 2017 than the previously announced first quarter of 2018. Zodiac's output of Polaris seats for all three aircraft types must be ultra smooth by now, if United wants to stick with its predictions. Can't wait to see the first converted 763 in mid July...
http://view.ceros.com/united/polaris...-desktop-4/p/1
Under the "Aircraft" tab, all currently existing routes serviced by the new 773 (SFO-HKG, EWR-TLV and SFO-NRT are listed) are listed as well as (yet to be converted) 763 and 772 types. For the 763 the listed starting date is "Fall 2017." For the 772 the webpage states "Winter 2017," which sounds optimistic to me as it sounds more like 4th quarter of 2017 than the previously announced first quarter of 2018. Zodiac's output of Polaris seats for all three aircraft types must be ultra smooth by now, if United wants to stick with its predictions. Can't wait to see the first converted 763 in mid July...
http://view.ceros.com/united/polaris-tracker-mobile/p/2
From [email protected] on 02/27/2017:
Dear XXXXX:
No announcement has been made to let us know when additional United
Polaris lounges will be opening. We are still renovating some of the
locations. Our United Premium Cabin Lounges page on our website will be
updated once the dates are announced. I've included the link for you
below.
https://www.united.com/web/en-US/con...n-lounges.aspx
No announcement has been made to let us know when additional United
Polaris lounges will be opening. We are still renovating some of the
locations. Our United Premium Cabin Lounges page on our website will be
updated once the dates are announced. I've included the link for you
below.
https://www.united.com/web/en-US/con...n-lounges.aspx
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May 16, 2018, 9:01 am
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HCT has its own distinct incentive (i.e., cheaper fares).
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May 16, 2018, 9:06 am
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At ORD they deployed technology that would detect situations where a person with eligible Polaris access entered the lounge but then didn't take an onward flight. I would not want to test this situation repeatedly.
I too cannot imagine going back through security just to spend time in the Polaris lounge after arriving on an int'l flight when I could be going home. They are nice, but not THAT nice.
I too cannot imagine going back through security just to spend time in the Polaris lounge after arriving on an int'l flight when I could be going home. They are nice, but not THAT nice.
May 16, 2018, 9:25 am
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May 16, 2018, 12:48 pm
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TPG provided the only report I've seen on it: https://thepointsguy.com/2016/11/fra...-lounge-entry/
It's from this company: http://aimslounge.com/
It's from this company: http://aimslounge.com/
And does UA treat this the same as throw-away tickets? Do it once or maybe twice and all is good. Make it a habit and UA will close your FF# account? Surely if someone is buying last-minute J tickets, getting to the Polaris Lounge and then cancelling the "J" ticket doesn't qualify UA to cancel/close the FF account?
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May 16, 2018, 1:00 pm
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Thanks. I've often wondered how many people book last minute J tickets at ORD to get access to the lounge, only to cancel those tickets once inside the lounge. I'm positive it happens. I'm just not sure how often.
And does UA treat this the same as throw-away tickets? Do it once or maybe twice and all is good. Make it a habit and UA will close your FF# account? Surely if someone is buying last-minute J tickets, getting to the Polaris Lounge and then cancelling the "J" ticket doesn't qualify UA to cancel/close the FF account?
-RM
And does UA treat this the same as throw-away tickets? Do it once or maybe twice and all is good. Make it a habit and UA will close your FF# account? Surely if someone is buying last-minute J tickets, getting to the Polaris Lounge and then cancelling the "J" ticket doesn't qualify UA to cancel/close the FF account?
-RM
On the flipside, I doubt many people are showing up to the airport just for a lounge with no other travel planned, so someone who books a standalone J ticket, only to cancel it later may have a few more 'chances' before a crackdown.
Not saying I'd be willing to gamble with either
May 16, 2018, 1:31 pm
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Thanks. I've often wondered how many people book last minute J tickets at ORD to get access to the lounge, only to cancel those tickets once inside the lounge. I'm positive it happens. I'm just not sure how often.
And does UA treat this the same as throw-away tickets? Do it once or maybe twice and all is good. Make it a habit and UA will close your FF# account? Surely if someone is buying last-minute J tickets, getting to the Polaris Lounge and then cancelling the "J" ticket doesn't qualify UA to cancel/close the FF account?
-RM
And does UA treat this the same as throw-away tickets? Do it once or maybe twice and all is good. Make it a habit and UA will close your FF# account? Surely if someone is buying last-minute J tickets, getting to the Polaris Lounge and then cancelling the "J" ticket doesn't qualify UA to cancel/close the FF account?
-RM
May 16, 2018, 1:39 pm
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And does UA treat this the same as throw-away tickets? Do it once or maybe twice and all is good. Make it a habit and UA will close your FF# account? Surely if someone is buying last-minute J tickets, getting to the Polaris Lounge and then cancelling the "J" ticket doesn't qualify UA to cancel/close the FF account?
There's a precedent of LH suing someone (and winning in court) for doing something similar (he changed his ticket something like 235 times to go to the lounge each day).
May 16, 2018, 3:43 pm
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And does UA treat this the same as throw-away tickets? Do it once or maybe twice and all is good. Make it a habit and UA will close your FF# account? Surely if someone is buying last-minute J tickets, getting to the Polaris Lounge and then cancelling the "J" ticket doesn't qualify UA to cancel/close the FF account?
-RM
-RM
What's notable to me about this story is not just that they will arrest you for it in Singapore, but the sheer number of people who are doing it (and getting caught).
May 16, 2018, 9:38 pm
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I think this happens more frequently than normal thinking people would expect: 59 People Have Been Arrested in Singapore This Year for Misusing Boarding Passes
What's notable to me about this story is not just that they will arrest you for it in Singapore, but the sheer number of people who are doing it (and getting caught).
What's notable to me about this story is not just that they will arrest you for it in Singapore, but the sheer number of people who are doing it (and getting caught).
May 25, 2018, 4:33 pm
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Sitting in Classified at EWR right now because the pop up lounge at C124 was completely full. Can't wait for the Polaris lounge to be open, will be nice to check out.
Then there is this exception lol
https://nypost.com/2014/01/29/man-us...ee-for-a-year/
I'd be betting that UA is most concerned with those booking last minute refundable J tickets who already have other travel pre-booked for the same day. To me, that would be a pretty clear indication that they never intended to fly the refundable J ticket, especially if they flew their originally booked flight. I would certainly hope UA would clamp down on this type of fraudulent behavior.
On the flipside, I doubt many people are showing up to the airport just for a lounge with no other travel planned, so someone who books a standalone J ticket, only to cancel it later may have a few more 'chances' before a crackdown.
Not saying I'd be willing to gamble with either
On the flipside, I doubt many people are showing up to the airport just for a lounge with no other travel planned, so someone who books a standalone J ticket, only to cancel it later may have a few more 'chances' before a crackdown.
Not saying I'd be willing to gamble with either
https://nypost.com/2014/01/29/man-us...ee-for-a-year/
May 31, 2018, 12:19 am
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I went to the wiki earlier that had the tables with the various X's in the departing, connect and arrival for Polaris Lounge access and am a little confused. I've been flying EWR -> SFO -> TPE regularly and glad that the SFO lounge is open for me to use but with EWR opening up I'm not sure if I have access to the Polaris Lounge at EWR? EWR -> SFO is United Business and SFO -> TPE is Polaris Business. Further clarification EWR->SFO->TPE are all same day travels under the same booking/itinerary. Anyone know the answer to this?
May 31, 2018, 12:55 am
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I went to the wiki earlier that had the tables with the various X's in the departing, connect and arrival for Polaris Lounge access and am a little confused. I've been flying EWR -> SFO -> TPE regularly and glad that the SFO lounge is open for me to use but with EWR opening up I'm not sure if I have access to the Polaris Lounge at EWR? EWR -> SFO is United Business and SFO -> TPE is Polaris Business. Further clarification EWR->SFO->TPE are all same day travels under the same booking/itinerary. Anyone know the answer to this?
Jun 4, 2018, 8:11 pm
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Does anyone know the approximate opening date for the Polaris Lounge in LAX? I know its stated as Fall'18 but does anyone have any insight as to which mth in 2018? Am flying on a J ticket out of LAX and would love to see the lounge if its opened.
Jun 4, 2018, 8:31 pm
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Reliable opening dates for SFO, EWR and hopefully IAH did not surfaced until about a month out from opening. Suspect UA has something in mind as far as a date but constructions are such they will likely keep it vague until closer in.
Jun 4, 2018, 9:00 pm
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If it's worth anything, the exterior of construction area looks the same this week as it did in December. To me that suggests they haven't finished planning the lounge. As WineCountryUA noted, the credible announcement tends to come about a month before actual opening. I definitely hope it is open by fall.