The Consolidated CLEAR Information Thread (Locations, Promotions, Value)
#991
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The TSA website currently says "Adult passengers 18 and over must show valid identification at the airport checkpoint in order to travel." Obviously this does not apply to CLEAR members currently, and I would not be particularly worried about this changing after the REAL ID change goes into effect either.
#992
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The problem is that Denver's CLEAR kiosks are split between Pre-Check and non-Pre-Check on opposite sides of security. My guess is that OAK only has one set of kiosks, and you're split to PC and non-PC after verification?
I'm also guessing she'll be out of luck in MCO since I won't be around with my CLEAR membership unless I buy her a $60 family membership (she will be carrying a state-issued REAL ID on her travels).
I've sent an e-mail to CLEAR about this, but I'm still waiting to hear back.
#993
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Could you elaborate on this? Baby Swede is traveling by herself next month. She has Global Entry/Pre-Check, so it's not a huge deal, but I'd love for her to use CLEAR, especially if I can get a gate pass to escort her to the gate.
The problem is that Denver's CLEAR kiosks are split between Pre-Check and non-Pre-Check on opposite sides of security. My guess is that OAK only has one set of kiosks, and you're split to PC and non-PC after verification?
I'm also guessing she'll be out of luck in MCO since I won't be around with my CLEAR membership unless I buy her a $60 family membership (she will be carrying a state-issued REAL ID on her travels).
I've sent an e-mail to CLEAR about this, but I'm still waiting to hear back.
The problem is that Denver's CLEAR kiosks are split between Pre-Check and non-Pre-Check on opposite sides of security. My guess is that OAK only has one set of kiosks, and you're split to PC and non-PC after verification?
I'm also guessing she'll be out of luck in MCO since I won't be around with my CLEAR membership unless I buy her a $60 family membership (she will be carrying a state-issued REAL ID on her travels).
I've sent an e-mail to CLEAR about this, but I'm still waiting to hear back.
Can my children use CLEAR?
Children under 18 can go through the CLEAR Lane for free when accompanied by a CLEAR member. No need to add those under 18 to your account.
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The TSA website currently says "Adult passengers 18 and over must show valid identification at the airport checkpoint in order to travel." Obviously this does not apply to CLEAR members currently, and I would not be particularly worried about this changing after the REAL ID change goes into effect either.
#995
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Yesterday morning c. 8:15 am at SFO terminal 1 checkpoint line for CLEAR, the South Asian male ahead of me was asked by the TSA screener for TSA-acceptable ID but he had none while his wife had some. He pulled out his Chase Sapphire Reserve card and some other bank cards with his name on it at the request of the TSA while waiting for the TSA to get someone to do the alternative ID verification method for him. I was after him and his wife and was in the PreCheck line that merges to the same point as the CLEAR line and was in no rush. He said next time he will again start bringing photo ID. He was expecting CLEAR to work like usual there, but it didn’t.
I have occasionally been selected for this. The fact remains however that the vast majority of the time I am able to use CLEAR without having to show my ID to the TSA regardless of that sentence on their web site, so I don't think this or other anecdotes refutes what I said
(I guess to be accurate I should have said originally that it's not a 100% guarantee)
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Could you elaborate on this? Baby Swede is traveling by herself next month. She has Global Entry/Pre-Check, so it's not a huge deal, but I'd love for her to use CLEAR, especially if I can get a gate pass to escort her to the gate.
The problem is that Denver's CLEAR kiosks are split between Pre-Check and non-Pre-Check on opposite sides of security. My guess is that OAK only has one set of kiosks, and you're split to PC and non-PC after verification?
I'm also guessing she'll be out of luck in MCO since I won't be around with my CLEAR membership unless I buy her a $60 family membership (she will be carrying a state-issued REAL ID on her travels).
I've sent an e-mail to CLEAR about this, but I'm still waiting to hear back.
The problem is that Denver's CLEAR kiosks are split between Pre-Check and non-Pre-Check on opposite sides of security. My guess is that OAK only has one set of kiosks, and you're split to PC and non-PC after verification?
I'm also guessing she'll be out of luck in MCO since I won't be around with my CLEAR membership unless I buy her a $60 family membership (she will be carrying a state-issued REAL ID on her travels).
I've sent an e-mail to CLEAR about this, but I'm still waiting to hear back.
the solution (at least it worked for me) is to scan the child’s BP then use your own iris scan. At OAK the precheck scanner is merged with the <whole body scanner>. However the TSA agent let me child use the regular WTMD and surprisingly let me follow her through it. So i got the precheck experience but No guarantees this will work at DEN.
she will be SOLat MCO on clear but could still use precheck if she has it. As a minor She doesn’t need ID but doesn’t hurt to have it.
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Could you elaborate on this? Baby Swede is traveling by herself next month. She has Global Entry/Pre-Check, so it's not a huge deal, but I'd love for her to use CLEAR, especially if I can get a gate pass to escort her to the gate.
The problem is that Denver's CLEAR kiosks are split between Pre-Check and non-Pre-Check on opposite sides of security. My guess is that OAK only has one set of kiosks, and you're split to PC and non-PC after verification?
I'm also guessing she'll be out of luck in MCO since I won't be around with my CLEAR membership unless I buy her a $60 family membership (she will be carrying a state-issued REAL ID on her travels).
I've sent an e-mail to CLEAR about this, but I'm still waiting to hear back.
The problem is that Denver's CLEAR kiosks are split between Pre-Check and non-Pre-Check on opposite sides of security. My guess is that OAK only has one set of kiosks, and you're split to PC and non-PC after verification?
I'm also guessing she'll be out of luck in MCO since I won't be around with my CLEAR membership unless I buy her a $60 family membership (she will be carrying a state-issued REAL ID on her travels).
I've sent an e-mail to CLEAR about this, but I'm still waiting to hear back.
The TSA website currently says "Adult passengers 18 and over must show valid identification at the airport checkpoint in order to travel." Obviously this does not apply to CLEAR members currently, and I would not be particularly worried about this changing after the REAL ID change goes into effect either.
Requiring CLEAR subscribers to present REAL ID's or other acceptable form of identifications to the TSA document checkers would destroy the CLEAR business model of offering an alternative identification verification at the entry to TSA security checkpoints. That would have to be disclosed in their SEC filings. The only reference to REAL ID in Clear Secure Inc.'s most recent SEC report, dated June 7, 2021, is that the implementation of REAL ID may reduce the number of travelers with compliant forms of identification and thus may negatively impact the demand for their airport services.
GE id doubt will work. But easy to carry passport card in your wallet. Friends who live in states that are charging for upgrading have used them with no problem
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#999
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The TSA web site says
https://www.tsa.gov/travel/frequentl...ts-apply-clear
Do REAL ID requirements apply to CLEAR?
Yes, the REAL ID requirements apply to passengers using CLEAR and passengers enrolled in CLEAR will need a REAL ID or other acceptable form of ID starting May 3, 2023.
Yes, the REAL ID requirements apply to passengers using CLEAR and passengers enrolled in CLEAR will need a REAL ID or other acceptable form of ID starting May 3, 2023.
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However this does not say that the REAL ID will need to be presented on every trip through security. Granted it doesn't explicitly say you won't either, but my interpretation of this is would be that updating your ID within the CLEAR system to a REAL ID is sufficient (and having it available to produce on demand, if selected for a random check).
From CLEAR Membership Support page:
Do I need a REAL ID to enroll or use CLEAR?
Yes – before the May 3, 2023 deadline, CLEAR will need your REAL ID-compliant license or passport on your CLEAR profile. You can add your REAL ID-compliant document to your profile at a CLEAR location – simply ask a CLEAR Ambassador to assist you.
If you don’t have a REAL ID-compliant document yet, you can still enroll with the following forms of ID: US Passport Card, US-issued Permanent Resident Card, State-issued ID, US Military ID, or Global Entry Card. Note that you may need to update your CLEAR profile before the May 3, 2023 deadline.
Yes – before the May 3, 2023 deadline, CLEAR will need your REAL ID-compliant license or passport on your CLEAR profile. You can add your REAL ID-compliant document to your profile at a CLEAR location – simply ask a CLEAR Ambassador to assist you.
If you don’t have a REAL ID-compliant document yet, you can still enroll with the following forms of ID: US Passport Card, US-issued Permanent Resident Card, State-issued ID, US Military ID, or Global Entry Card. Note that you may need to update your CLEAR profile before the May 3, 2023 deadline.
CLEAR will also need your REAL ID-compliant license on file by the deadline.
#1001
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I've used my GE Card exclusively (i.e., not my DL) at TSA checkpoints for nearly a decade now. Just sometimes takes a beat longer in the "scan your ID" machines, and in the very beginning I had to have more-junior TSA get their Supervisors as they "ain't seen nothin' like that", but overall no issues.
#1002
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I've used my GE Card exclusively (i.e., not my DL) at TSA checkpoints for nearly a decade now. Just sometimes takes a beat longer in the "scan your ID" machines, and in the very beginning I had to have more-junior TSA get their Supervisors as they "ain't seen nothin' like that", but overall no issues.
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(... of course as the Fates would have it neither of those have happened with my GE card )
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