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jonman21 Feb 14, 2011 10:11 pm

Thanks for the quick response - appreciate it!

wyoming007 Feb 15, 2011 7:28 am


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 15865682)
Please download the latest version:

[KVS Availability Tool 6.0.9/Diamond - Amadeus: Awards/OneWorld/AU-QFA-SP1]
Code:

SFO  San Francisco Intl CA US [KSFO]
HKG  Hong Kong Intl HK [VHHH]
WED  02 Nov 2011 | 2 Seats

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------
CX        873    SFO  01:05    HKG  06:45 +1  744      FS+  CS+  YS-
CX        879    SFO  12:50    HKG  18:45 +1  773      FS+  CS+  YS-
AA        2578    SFO  16:45    LAX  18:05    738      FS+  CS-  YS-
 -> CX    883    LAX  23:20    HKG  05:45 +2  773
AA        1324    SFO  06:15    ORD  12:25    738      FS+  CS-  YS+
 -> CX    807    ORD  15:25    HKG  20:00 +1  773
AA        1931    SFO  14:20    LAX  15:45    738      FS+  CS-  YS-
 -> CX    883    LAX  23:20    HKG  05:45 +2  773
AA        16      SFO  12:35    JFK  21:15    762      FS-  CS-  YS+
 -> CX    845    JFK  01:20 +1  HKG  05:15 +2  773
BA        286    SFO  20:55    LHR  14:00 +1  744      FS-  CS-  YS+
 -> CX    250    LHR  18:05 +1  HKG  13:50 +2  744


I'm having a similar problem but I am seeing differing availability on Awards/CX vs. Awards/Oneworld. Which one should I trust?

[KVS Availability Tool 6.0.9/Platinum - Amadeus: Awards/CX]

HKG Hong Kong Intl HK [VHHH]
NRT Tokyo Narita JP [RJAA]
WED 13 Apr 2011 | 2 Seats

Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive A/C St Availability
--------- ------ ---- -------- ---- -------- --- -- ------------
CX 450 HKG 10:00 NRT 17:10 330 1 FS/ CS+ YS+
CX 524 HKG 00:40 NRT 06:00 330 0 FS/ CS+ YS@
CX 504 HKG 09:10 NRT 14:35 330 0 FS? CS- YS+
CX 520 HKG 10:35 NRT 15:55 343 0 FS/ CS@ YS@
CX 500 HKG 15:10 NRT 20:30 773 0 FS/ CS@ YS+

[KVS Availability Tool 6.0.9/Platinum - Amadeus: Awards/OneWorld/AU-QFA-SP1]

HKG Hong Kong Intl HK [VHHH]
NRT Tokyo Narita JP [RJAA]
WED 13 Apr 2011 | 2 Seats

Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive A/C St Availability
--------- ------ ---- -------- ---- -------- --- -- ------------
CX 524 HKG 00:40 NRT 06:00 330 CS+ YS-
CX 500 HKG 15:10 NRT 20:30 773 CS- YS+
CX 504 HKG 09:10 NRT 14:35 330 CS+ YS+
CX 450 HKG 10:00 NRT 17:10 330 CS+ YS+
CX 530 HKG 09:10 TPE 10:55 343 CS+ YS+
-> CX 450 TPE 12:50 NRT 17:10 330
CX 474 HKG 08:35 TPE 10:15 343 CS+ YS-
-> CX 450 TPE 12:50 NRT 17:10 330

KVS Feb 17, 2011 10:19 pm


Originally Posted by wyoming007 (Post 15867392)
I'm having a similar problem but I am seeing differing availability on Awards/CX vs. Awards/Oneworld. Which one should I trust?

Please see the guidelines at http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/catha...l#post15886718

However, also note that the Availability via the [Awards/CX] Method has changed since the time of your OP:

[KVS Availability Tool 6.0.9/Diamond - Amadeus: Awards/CX]
Code:

HKG  Hong Kong Intl HK [VHHH]
NRT  Tokyo Narita JP [RJAA]
WED  13 Apr 2011 | 2 Seats

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ---------------
CX        450    HKG  10:00    NRT  17:10    330  1  FS/ CS+ YS+ YA+
CX        524    HKG  00:40    NRT  06:00    330  0  FS/ CS+ YS@ YA+
CX        504    HKG  09:10    NRT  14:35    330  0  FS/ CS+ YS+ YA+
CX        520    HKG  10:35    NRT  15:55    343  0  FS/ CS@ YS@ YA@
CX        500    HKG  15:10    NRT  20:30    773  0  FS/ CS@ YS+ YA+


stephem Feb 17, 2011 11:07 pm

I really lke the new BA award link up that you're using for extended OW availability in the Beta. It beats the heck out of walking thru repeated searches on the BA site!

joshwa Feb 18, 2011 11:50 am

Hi,

I am new to KVS so please forgive my ignorance if this has already been answered (I did search the thread)...

I found availability on a particular route/farebucket combo, and I can buy it on the airline's website, but KVS can't seem to find a fare for it:

[KVS Availability Tool 6.0.9/Diamond - Sabre: Availability/GTC/US-LTR]
Code:

KMG  Kunming CN [ZPPP]
SFO  San Francisco Intl CA US [KSFO]
SAT  18 Jun 2011

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -----------------------------------------------------------
CX        6721    KMG  15:20    HKG  17:35    320  0  J4 C4 D4 I4 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q9 O0
 -> CX    872    HKG  00:30 +1  SFO  22:00    744  0  F4 A4 J8 C8 D7 I7 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q9 O0

[KVS Availability Tool 6.0.9/Diamond - Sabre: Fares/DotRes/US]
Code:

KMG  Kunming CN [ZPPP]
SFO  San Francisco Intl CA US [KSFO]
SAT  18 Jun 2011 | FRI  24 Jun 2011 | R/T | Economy

Carrier    From    To    Fare      Cur                      Fare Basis/TD
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------
CX        KMG    SFO      3142  USD                      YX2R
CX        KMG    SFO      3220  USD                      BHWAP

I want to book it in H, but all I get are the Y and B fares. On CX's site I can book it in H for $1576...

Am I doing it wrong?

Thanks!

KVS Feb 18, 2011 1:14 pm


Originally Posted by joshwa (Post 15889873)
I am new to KVS so please forgive my ignorance if this has already been answered (I did search the thread)...

Welcome to the KVS Tool!


Originally Posted by joshwa (Post 15889873)
I found availability on a particular route/farebucket combo, and I can buy it on the airline's website, but KVS can't seem to find a fare for it:


Originally Posted by joshwa (Post 15889873)
I want to book it in H, but all I get are the Y and B fares. On CX's site I can book it in H for $1576...

Am I doing it wrong?

CX is using a private/non-published fare on its website, so that is why you cannot see it.

joshwa Feb 18, 2011 6:16 pm


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 15890397)
CX is using a private/non-published fare on its website, so that is why you cannot see it.

Aha! That explains why it disappeared from ITA, as well.

Any thoughts on why CX makes such decisions to publish/unpublish fares?

phranticaw Feb 19, 2011 6:01 pm

Could someone explain what 'SUP' means in the MCT listing? I understand it means suppressed, but what does that mean? Is KVS just not able to retrieve it? Does that mean the airlines impose no MCT on flights?

KVS Feb 20, 2011 10:18 pm


Originally Posted by joshwa (Post 15891846)
Aha! That explains why it disappeared from ITA, as well.

Indeed.


Originally Posted by joshwa (Post 15891846)
Any thoughts on why CX makes such decisions to publish/unpublish fares?

It's either a part of their pricing and revenue management strategy, or there are regulatory/tariff restrictions in place for published fares between China and the US.

KVS Feb 20, 2011 10:19 pm


Originally Posted by phranticaw (Post 15896410)
Could someone explain what 'SUP' means in the MCT listing? I understand it means suppressed, but what does that mean? Is KVS just not able to retrieve it? Does that mean the airlines impose no MCT on flights?

It is the latter.

spkg Feb 22, 2011 10:39 am


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 15856643)
[/INDENT]Could you please provide an example of this?

the following is a good example, for same odd reason, GTC will only show a random maximum number of less then 9, this case its 7, but i've seen 4s 5s and even 2s.

[KVS Availability Tool 6.0.9/Diamond - Sabre: Availability/GTC/US-LTR]
Code:

NRT  Tokyo Narita JP [RJAA]
ORD  Chicago O'Hare Intl IL US [KORD]
WED  23 Feb 2011

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -----------------------------------------------------
AA        5822    NRT  11:35    ORD  08:25    773  0  F0 A0 D7 J7 I0 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L7 S7 Q7 O7
AA        154    NRT  19:00    ORD  15:50    777  0  F7 A7 D7 J7 R0 I7 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L7 W7 V7 N7 S7 Q7 O7
AA        176    NRT  13:00    DFW  09:20    777  0  F7 A7 D7 J7 R0 I6 Y7 B5 H4 K2 M1 L0 W0 V0 N0 S0 Q0 O0
 -> AA    2336    DFW  10:35    ORD  12:50    S80  0  F6 A4 Y7 B5 H4 K2 M1 L0 W0 G0 V0 N0 S0 Q0 O0
AA        176    NRT  13:00    DFW  09:20    777  0  F7 A7 D7 J7 R0 I6 Y7 B5 H4 K2 M1 L0 W0 V0 N0 S0 Q0 O0
 -> AA    2344    DFW  11:10    ORD  13:20    S80  0  F7 A5 Y7 B5 H4 K2 M1 L0 W0 G0 V0 N0 S0 Q0 O0
AA        176    NRT  13:00    DFW  09:20    777  0  F7 A7 D7 J7 R0 I6 Y7 B5 H4 K2 M1 L0 W0 V0 N0 S0 Q0 O0
 -> AA    2348    DFW  12:15    ORD  14:25    S80  0  F5 A3 Y7 B5 H4 K2 M1 L0 W0 G0 V0 N0 S0 Q0 O0
AA        176    NRT  13:00    DFW  09:20    777  0  F7 A7 D7 J7 R0 I6 Y7 B5 H4 K2 M1 L0 W0 V0 N0 S0 Q0 O0
 -> AA    2350    DFW  13:00    ORD  15:15    777  0  F3 A1 Y7 B5 H4 K2 M1 L0 W0 G0 V0 N0 S0 Q0 O0
AA        60      NRT  19:05    DFW  15:35    777  0  F6 A5 D5 J5 R0 I0 Y7 B4 H3 K0 M0 L0 W0 V0 N0 S0 Q0 O0
 -> AA    2366    DFW  17:35    ORD  19:55    S80  0  F5 A3 Y2 B2 H2 K0 M0 L0 W0 G0 V0 N0 S0 Q0 O0
AA        60      NRT  19:05    DFW  15:35    777  0  F6 A5 D5 J5 R0 I0 Y7 B7 H6 K2 M0 L0 W0 V0 N0 S0 Q0 O0
 -> AA    2374    DFW  20:35    ORD  22:40    S80  0  F4 A2 Y1 B1 H1 K1 M0 L0 W0 G0 V0 N0 S0 Q0 O0
AA        5820    NRT  11:10    JFK  10:15    773  0  F4 A0 D7 J7 I0 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L7 S7 Q7 O7
 -> AA    3728    EWR  14:30    ORD  16:00    CR7  0  F3 A2 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L7 W7 G7 V7 N7 S7 Q7 O7
AA        5820    NRT  11:10    JFK  10:15    773  0  F4 A0 D7 J7 I0 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L7 S7 Q7 O7
 -> AA    577    JFK  14:45    ORD  16:35    757  0  F7 A4 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L7 W7 G7 V7 N7 S7 Q7 O7
AA        168    NRT  19:20    JFK  18:20    777  0  F7 A7 D7 J7 R0 I3 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L7 W7 V7 N7 S7 Q7 O7
 -> AA    3854    JFK  20:45    ORD  22:10    CR7  0  F0 A0 Y1 B1 H1 K1 M1 L1 W1 G1 V1 N1 S1 Q1 O1
AA        170    NRT  16:35    LAX  09:20    777  0  F6 A5 D7 J7 R0 I2 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L7 W7 V7 N7 S7 Q7 O6
 -> AA    874    LAX  12:10    ORD  18:15    738  0  F5 A4 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L7 W7 G7 V7 N7 S7 Q7 O6
AA        170    NRT  16:35    LAX  09:20    777  0  F6 A5 D7 J7 R0 I2 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L7 W7 V7 N7 S7 Q7 O7
 -> AA    1624    LAX  14:35    ORD  20:35    738  0  F4 A3 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L7 W7 G7 V7 N7 S7 Q7 O7
AA        170    NRT  16:35    LAX  09:20    777  0  F6 A5 D7 J7 R0 I2 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L7 W7 V7 N7 S7 Q7 O7
 -> AA    1890    LAX  16:40    ORD  22:35    738  0  F1 A0 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L7 W7 G7 V7 N7 S7 Q7 O7
AA        5830    NRT  17:15    LAX  10:00    773  0  F0 A0 D7 J7 I0 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L7 W7 V7 N7 S7 Q7 O7
 -> AA    874    LAX  12:10    ORD  18:15    738  0  F5 A4 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L7 W7 G7 V7 N7 S7 Q7 O7
AA        5830    NRT  17:15    LAX  10:00    773  0  F0 A0 D7 J7 I0 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L7 W7 V7 N7 S7 Q7 O7
 -> AA    1624    LAX  14:35    ORD  20:35    738  0  F4 A3 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L7 W7 G7 V7 N7 S7 Q7 O7
AA        5830    NRT  17:15    LAX  10:00    773  0  F0 A0 D7 J7 I0 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L7 W7 V7 N7 S7 Q7 O7
 -> AA    1890    LAX  16:40    ORD  22:35    738  0  F1 A0 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L7 W7 G7 V7 N7 S7 Q7 O7
AA        5820    NRT  11:10    JFK  10:15    773  0  F4 A0 D7 J7 I0 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L7 S7 Q7 O7
 -> AA    331    LGA  13:20    ORD  14:55    S80  0  F7 A5 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L7 W7 G7 V7 N7 S7 Q7 O7
AA        5820    NRT  11:10    JFK  10:15    773  0  F4 A0 D7 J7 I0 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L7 S7 Q7 O7
 -> AA    333    LGA  14:10    ORD  15:45    S80  0  F7 A5 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L7 W7 G7 V7 N7 S7 Q7 O7
AA        168    NRT  19:20    JFK  18:20    777  0  F7 A7 D7 J7 R0 I3 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L7 W7 V7 N7 S7 Q7 O7
 -> AA    301    LGA  06:00 +1  ORD  07:25 +1  S80  0  F7 A6 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L7 W7 G7 V7 N7 S7 Q7 O7


KVS Feb 22, 2011 11:06 am


Originally Posted by spkg (Post 15911015)
the following is a good example, for same odd reason, GTC will only show a random maximum number of less then 9, this case its 7, but i've seen 4s 5s and even 2s.

We have just verified using a different system and the availability shown above is, indeed, accurate, with 7 being the maximum number of available seats that AA is willing to show.

The industry-standard values for the maximum number of seats are 9, 7 and 4 (depending on the carrier/cabin).

spkg Feb 23, 2011 9:42 pm


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 15911238)
We have just verified using a different system and the availability shown above is, indeed, accurate, with 7 being the maximum number of available seats that AA is willing to show.

The industry-standard values for the maximum number of seats are 9, 7 and 4 (depending on the carrier/cabin).

really, alright, I know some Overseas carriers show only 4s, but I always thought AA shows 9s.

noted, thanks for the reply

zman Feb 25, 2011 4:42 pm

Is there anyway to disply Senior fares (65). I know AA has a Q65SRD in some markets.

kevy_boy Feb 26, 2011 5:01 am

Anyone able to use KVS using Wine on Mac OS 10.6? I was able use Wine when I was using Ubuntu but it seems I get data locator errors when using it on a Mac.


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