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Old Mar 8, 2017, 3:40 am
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Qatar have confirmed the presence of a policy whereby if a customer booked a QSuites flight and subsequently gets an aircraft type swap can you request travel on an alternative flight, subject to availability, see post #2709 Previously this included change of routing, now it only includes changing the date on the same routing. QR issued tickets only!
Qatar Airways confirms new business class seat

A video of the new Q Suite can be seen here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yhZDsctiZg

Photos of the new Q Suite can be seen here - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28007634-post109.html

From TGFlyerGirl:
there are some quite complex rules entries around seat selection - but in essence, solo travellers as a guideline won't be assigned QUADS (they are blocked off), and it's generally for 3/4 pax families. Once a QUAD has been broken up (out of necessity - for example with a couple in the E/F seats), then the rest of the quad is unlocked and can be filled with individual travellers.

They've also made 1A/2B last offered to allow airport flexibility to handle last minute requests. The other 18 windows and aisles are free for reservation as per the normal process.

The bassinet position is 11B/J (77W) and 8B/J (A359), reduced mobility seats are 2/4/6/9 B and J.

All A/E/F/K's are backward facing, all B,D,G,J's are forward facing. Total 20 Forward/22 Backward.

Capacity:
77W: J42/Y312
High density 77W: J24/Y388
77L: J42/Y230
35K: J46/Y281
359: J36/Y247

Which routes have Qsuites?
Details and changes can be found in the various recent threads.

As to other routes NO ONE KNOWS!

I repeat NO ONE KNOWS!! so do not ask!

What aircraft are fitted with Qsuites?
Updated information as to which aircraft are fitted with Qsuites is in the Wiki in the The Complete Guide to the Qatar Airways Fleet thread.

38/48 77W: 79%
10/38 359: 26%
7/9 77L: 78%
19/19 351: 100%

77W aircraft fitted with Qsuites (A7-BEA/B/C/D/E/F/G/H/I/J/K/L/M/N/O/P/Q/R/S/T/U/V/W/X, BA​​​​​​C,E,F,G,I,M,O,T,U,V,W,X,Y,Z)
35Xs delivered since Q1 2018 are fitted with Qsuites.
At least 10x 359 (A7-ALY, Z,AME,F,G,H,I,J,K,L) have Q-Suites
At least 7x 77L (A7-BBA,B,C,D,E,G,I) have QSuites

tracking list (77W).
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bed
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bek
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bel
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bem
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-ben
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-beo
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bep
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-beq
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-ber
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bes
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-beu
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bev
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bet
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bew
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-baf
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bex
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bee
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-beb
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bef
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bax
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bag
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-beg
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bei
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bam
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bej
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-baz
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bea
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bao
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bac
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bat
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bae
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bai
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bau
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bay
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-beh
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bec

tracking list (77L)
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bba
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bbg
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bbb
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bbi
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bbe
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bbc
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bbd

tracking list (359).
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-aly
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-alz
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-ame
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-amf
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-amg
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-amh
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-ami
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-amj
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-amk
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-aml

tracking list (35K)
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-ana
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-anb
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-anc
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-and
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-ane
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-anf
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-ang
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-anh
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-ani
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-anj
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-ann












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Old Aug 7, 2019, 8:02 am
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Originally Posted by Dr. HFH
I see nothing wrong with traveling in business class (or any cabin) with a well behaved toddler. I do, however, see a real problem traveling in any cabin with a poorly behaved child of any age. An airplane cabin is a public space, and an enclosed and tightly packed one, at that. Anyone traveling with a child has a responsibility to everyone else to ensure some reasonable level of decorum.
I did not mean to address you...it was in general, as I am aware of the discussion Baby / Toddler in bussines class
Yes, I agree, that´s why it is real fun for us as family, to travel ;-)
But I want to add that "adult travelers do have the same responsibility for everyone to ensure ..." ;-)
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Old Aug 7, 2019, 12:31 pm
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We have just had some minor rescheduling for our LGW-DOH-CPT in November. On checking the booking, the DOH-CPT (both ways) is showing A350-1000 with seat selection in Business reflecting that.

I hope this is not a spoof, as we’re actually quite excited about the prospect ... especially as we’re usually in J on BA or AA
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Old Aug 7, 2019, 12:50 pm
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Originally Posted by Traveller999
When I book flights explicitly because of Qsuite (as it is the most convenient when i travel with my wife and our daughter due to the "double bed" - before somebody says anything against travelling in business class with a toddler - we did this now 3 times with her and she did not "disturb" one passenger...) and the seats assigned at time of booking / paying are the Qsuite double bed seats, then I am not "more aware of", I am quite pissed off (sorry for the wording) when the aircraft gets changed and QR does not value it important enough, to at least inform me, the customer, about the change....this happened now in 4 or 5 out of my 6 last flights - and now again for my upcoming QR833 flight in September...
While I feel your pain, I have set my expectation that I won't get Qsuites and if I do, then it is a bonus. Till QR have got an all Q-suites fleet with their 777 and A350 fleet etc (which is never going to happen in a hurry), some of us souls will have to be disappointed with non Q-suites seats. Has happened to me before and guess will happen again.
When EK swapped us from an A380 flat bed window seat to a slightly sloped middle seat of 3 on the EK 777, that makes you really p****d off!!! I know since it happened to me a long while ago.
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Old Aug 7, 2019, 7:58 pm
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Pleasantly surprised to see both South African legs of my December JFK-DOH-JNB;CPT-DOH-JFK itinerary change to Q Suites in the last few days. DOH-JNB changed from regular 359 to Q Suite equipped 359 and CPT-DOH went from regular 359 to 350-1000. We're pretty far out, but sure do hope it sticks.
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Old Aug 8, 2019, 1:36 am
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Originally Posted by hhbean
Pleasantly surprised to see both South African legs of my December JFK-DOH-JNB;CPT-DOH-JFK itinerary change to Q Suites in the last few days. DOH-JNB changed from regular 359 to Q Suite equipped 359 and CPT-DOH went from regular 359 to 350-1000. We're pretty far out, but sure do hope it sticks.
As that's just happened to 2 of us here, it strikes me as a permanent fixture rather than random re-allocation of airframes.
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Old Aug 8, 2019, 11:18 am
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Originally Posted by T8191
We have just had some minor rescheduling for our LGW-DOH-CPT in November. On checking the booking, the DOH-CPT (both ways) is showing A350-1000 with seat selection in Business reflecting that.

I hope this is not a spoof, as we’re actually quite excited about the prospect ... especially as we’re usually in J on BA or AA
We’ve just completed our first QR flights in business last June. LGW-DOH 787, DOH-HKT return A350-9 non Qsuite and as our LGW return flight was cancelled... A350-1000 Qsuite to LHR. I’m normally in the BA J window seat and enjoyed all three QR seats! Hubby is normally in the BA J aisle seat (he can fall asleep anywhere!) and actually preferred the open cabin of the A350-9 non Qsuite. He found the Qsuite a bit too “closed in” even with the door open. For my inflight kiddies swim/gym bag, there was actually more storage space in the 787 and A350-9. Whichever type you get, you both will enjoy! Crew are fantastic (like BA) , service, food and drinks ... yummy yummy. I tried their ice cream and was pleasantly surprised by the decoration. You’ll be able to let us know in your next trip report how it compares to the AA sundae.
One final tip, don’t get carried away trying out too many dishes at Doha airport. I did and I could then not finish my delicious hot fish biriany on the way back to LHR.
Ps their fruit dishes are superb. Definitely better than BA.
I still prefer direct flights with BA because of longer sleep and arriving refreshed, but wouldn’t hesitate to fly Qatar again if we needed the tier points or the flights were cheaper than BA.
Enjoy your trip.

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Old Aug 8, 2019, 11:22 am
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Originally Posted by T8191
As that's just happened to 2 of us here, it strikes me as a permanent fixture rather than random re-allocation of airframes.
Uncle T, there are several months between now and December when the QR airframe reallocation randomiser can come into effect. But as you note, your route has had several reports of it currently being scheduled for QSuites. What the QR gods can give, they can also take back. So please set your expectations appropriately and get ready for airframe turbulence, there is less chance of changes from a month to a T - a few days out, and then the IRROPs dice starts to take effect, often at the gate.

But I do hope you get a QSuites experience, not least so that you can report back on the BA board
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Old Aug 8, 2019, 12:20 pm
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Originally Posted by plunet
The QR Airframe Reallocation Randomiser
I like that moniker. Perhaps AAB can market and sell this piece of software to other carriers.
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Old Aug 8, 2019, 12:24 pm
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Variability noted. We always set our expectations low, so if the -1000/Q-suites actually happens, we will be thrilled. If not, it will still be an interesting change from BA/AA long-haul. A flat bed is my prime concern on any flight over 3 hours!!

Trip Report guaranteed, of course, but I have an IAD and an MLA to do before then. It’s a hard life being retired!
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Old Aug 8, 2019, 1:45 pm
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Defective Suite. Wife and I flew the late flight JFK-DOH Wednesday night. (Currently in the Al Safwa lounge now via paid access. Well worth it due to long layover.) Anyway, my wife's seat didn't work. Entertainment was fine, but none of the seat movement controls worked. She didnt realize until after take off. They were able to manually recline it slightly-but never into a sleep position. This is one of four segments. But certainly an important time to be able to sleep. Paid tickets as well. I am going to contact Qatar. What do you think is reasonable-assuming no other issues-and we dont expect any? We don't fly them much so miles or credit won't be very helpful. The crew did make a report of the issue about the seat.
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Old Aug 8, 2019, 7:18 pm
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Originally Posted by Mr. Vker
Defective Suite. Wife and I flew the late flight JFK-DOH Wednesday night. (Currently in the Al Safwa lounge now via paid access. Well worth it due to long layover.) Anyway, my wife's seat didn't work. Entertainment was fine, but none of the seat movement controls worked. She didnt realize until after take off. They were able to manually recline it slightly-but never into a sleep position. This is one of four segments. But certainly an important time to be able to sleep. Paid tickets as well. I am going to contact Qatar. What do you think is reasonable-assuming no other issues-and we dont expect any? We don't fly them much so miles or credit won't be very helpful. The crew did make a report of the issue about the seat.
My guess would be that you will get nothing, unfortunately. At least I did not, when I had a similar problem on a non Qsuite flight 2 years back.
But it´s all the time worth a try ;-)
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Old Aug 8, 2019, 11:44 pm
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Originally Posted by Traveller999
My guess would be that you will get nothing, unfortunately. At least I did not, when I had a similar problem on a non Qsuite flight 2 years back.
But it´s all the time worth a try ;-)
I was debating but am going to try. Our second flight Doh-Mle has an equipment change last minute. No q suites. People were getting new seat assignments etc. so my wife was 0 for 2. I know she wasn’t guaranteed any seat type. But she should have a seat that works.
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Old Aug 8, 2019, 11:56 pm
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I was debating but am going to try. Our second flight Doh-Mle has an equipment change last minute. No q suites. People were getting new seat assignments etc. so my wife was 0 for 2. I know she wasn’t guaranteed any seat type. But she should have a seat that works.
A non functional seat usually nets you a good amount of compensation, I searched a few old posts about complaints on BA/CX a while back and there were people getting large amounts of miles for such issues (I recall it being F class instead of J class though).
I've also gotten compensation from either airline for various smaller issues. I have no experience yet with QR complaints though...

Either way you should file a complaint, as (1) you can only gain compensation (probably in miles), you cant lose, you might lose the few minutes it takes to file that complaint...; and (2) the only way to help ensure that you and other customers don't get stuck with a non functioning seat in the future is by telling the airline...
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Old Aug 9, 2019, 1:52 am
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Originally Posted by sparkj
A non functional seat usually nets you a good amount of compensation, I searched a few old posts about complaints on BA/CX a while back and there were people getting large amounts of miles for such issues (I recall it being F class instead of J class though).
I've also gotten compensation from either airline for various smaller issues. I have no experience yet with QR complaints though...

Either way you should file a complaint, as (1) you can only gain compensation (probably in miles), you cant lose, you might lose the few minutes it takes to file that complaint...; and (2) the only way to help ensure that you and other customers don't get stuck with a non functioning seat in the future is by telling the airline...
But we are talking about QR here and unfortunately, acknowledging / honoring problems cused by them is not their strength :-(
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Old Aug 9, 2019, 6:55 am
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Originally Posted by Mr. Vker
(Currently in the Al Safwa lounge now via paid access. Well worth it due to long layover.)
More than 6 hour layover? Are you being restricted to six hours in AS?
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