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Qatar have confirmed the presence of a policy whereby if a customer booked a QSuites flight and subsequently gets an aircraft type swap can you request travel on an alternative flight, subject to availability, see post #2709 Previously this included change of routing, now it only includes changing the date on the same routing. QR issued tickets only!
Qatar Airways confirms new business class seat

A video of the new Q Suite can be seen here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yhZDsctiZg

Photos of the new Q Suite can be seen here - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28007634-post109.html

From TGFlyerGirl:
there are some quite complex rules entries around seat selection - but in essence, solo travellers as a guideline won't be assigned QUADS (they are blocked off), and it's generally for 3/4 pax families. Once a QUAD has been broken up (out of necessity - for example with a couple in the E/F seats), then the rest of the quad is unlocked and can be filled with individual travellers.

They've also made 1A/2B last offered to allow airport flexibility to handle last minute requests. The other 18 windows and aisles are free for reservation as per the normal process.

The bassinet position is 11B/J (77W) and 8B/J (A359), reduced mobility seats are 2/4/6/9 B and J.

All A/E/F/K's are backward facing, all B,D,G,J's are forward facing. Total 20 Forward/22 Backward.

Capacity:
77W: J42/Y312
High density 77W: J24/Y388
77L: J42/Y230
35K: J46/Y281
359: J36/Y247

Which routes have Qsuites?
Details and changes can be found in the various recent threads.

As to other routes NO ONE KNOWS!

I repeat NO ONE KNOWS!! so do not ask!

What aircraft are fitted with Qsuites?
Updated information as to which aircraft are fitted with Qsuites is in the Wiki in the The Complete Guide to the Qatar Airways Fleet thread.

38/48 77W: 79%
10/38 359: 26%
7/9 77L: 78%
19/19 351: 100%

77W aircraft fitted with Qsuites (A7-BEA/B/C/D/E/F/G/H/I/J/K/L/M/N/O/P/Q/R/S/T/U/V/W/X, BA​​​​​​C,E,F,G,I,M,O,T,U,V,W,X,Y,Z)
35Xs delivered since Q1 2018 are fitted with Qsuites.
At least 10x 359 (A7-ALY, Z,AME,F,G,H,I,J,K,L) have Q-Suites
At least 7x 77L (A7-BBA,B,C,D,E,G,I) have QSuites

tracking list (77W).
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bed
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bek
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bel
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bem
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-ben
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-beo
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bep
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-beq
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-ber
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bes
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-beu
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bev
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bet
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bew
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-baf
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bex
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bee
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-beb
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bef
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bax
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bag
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-beg
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bei
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bam
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bej
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-baz
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bea
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bao
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bac
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bat
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bae
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bai
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bau
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bay
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-beh
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bec

tracking list (77L)
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bba
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bbg
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bbb
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bbi
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bbe
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bbc
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bbd

tracking list (359).
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-aly
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-alz
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-ame
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-amf
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-amg
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-amh
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-ami
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-amj
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-amk
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-aml

tracking list (35K)
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-ana
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-anb
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-anc
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-and
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-ane
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-anf
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-ang
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-anh
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-ani
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-anj
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-ann












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Old Jan 5, 2017, 6:19 am
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The Q Suite Master Thread

We all know a new J seat is coming in March, so please keep all discussion within this thread.

The latest information can be found here - https://www.businesstraveller.com/bu...d-concourse-f/

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Old Jan 5, 2017, 7:38 am
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I guess no chance of it being in the AKL serving 777s before Easter?!
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Old Jan 5, 2017, 7:48 am
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Out of curiosity, why do they not just stick with the current 787/350 (very good) reverse herringbone into the 777? I can't help but feel that if it ain't broke, don't fix it. IMO it will be hard to come up with a better design than the current 350 seat.

Has there been any clues as to the layout at all? I would imagine the only seat that comes close to being an improvement is the JL J seat, I believe Oman Air have it as well. Or are we talking about a completely new design?

On another note, I will miss the 777 J seat, some of my best plane sleeps have come on those seats, and they are second to none when you have nobody beside you.
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Old Jan 5, 2017, 8:01 am
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Originally Posted by jah718

On another note, I will miss the 777 J seat, some of my best plane sleeps have come on those seats, and they are second to none when you have nobody beside you.
+1 Have also had the best sleep on the 777.
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Morgo absolutely no chance!
AKL is scheduled to have the B777-200LR.
ITB, where the seat is to be launched first opens 8 March.
It will take some time to deliver and then the B777-300s will be retrofitted at the rate of 2-3 per month. There are 34 of them. Then other aircraft types will be considered and retro filtted after an, as yet, unknown plan.
It is thought that all widebodied aircraft that are delivered to QR after 8th. March will have the new seats. Unfortunately no B777-200s are on order at the moment.
I can understand that you cannot find this information on the forum because it is spread across at least TEN different threads with names such as "A350 vs. 77L - worth going out of my way for?" and "Super Business seat"!
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Old Jan 5, 2017, 8:30 am
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QR appears to be rolling out Al Baker's new improved J bit by bit. As for new seats, seems only a few ways to go:

1. Reverse herringbone 1-2-1 adopted by AA, CX, AC, BR and a number of other 777 operators, though this has width limitations with the A330 cabin where it becomes 1-1-1, thus reducing capacity considerably. This would be consistent with the 787 and A350 product.
2. Staggered "cabins" like LX and AC with a 1-2-1/2-1-2 configuration, again not sure how it would work on the A330. AA uses a variant of this but in all 1-2-1 (though pseudo 2-2-2 as it offers all aisle access).
3. Compact "cabins" like UA has just introduced and BA is adopting, and IIRC NH, OZ and JL have been flying, and is a high-density compromise with 2-4-2 but all-aisle access (pseudo 1-2-1)
4. Wide bench ala SQ in 1-2-1 on the 777, would fit the A330 with slightly less width than SQ's version.

The options for the 777 fleet are considerable, but the A330 has limitations (as the 767 had throughout its career when most carriers squeezed 2-2-2 premium seating while others adopted 2-1-2/1-2-2/2-2-1 variants) due to a narrower cabin.

Suppose we can all speculate. Though what might make a useful discussion while we await "the decision of the judges" is people posting their preferred and practical option based on flying other types of new-gen J seats on other carriers and bearing in mind the A330 limitations.
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Originally Posted by remdk
I can understand that you cannot find this information on the forum because it is spread across at least TEN different threads with names such as "A350 vs. 77L - worth going out of my way for?" and "Super Business seat"!


You're very helpfully moving relevant information into this thread as insinuated in the first post

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You're very helpfully moving relevant information into this thread as insinuated in the first post

Seconded...send Zol and I the threads, and we'll merge them.

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Old Jan 5, 2017, 10:40 am
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The new seat is going into the A350 too - a brand new plane? I am assuming just the new A350s as they get delivered, not the current ones being replaced?
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Old Jan 5, 2017, 7:08 pm
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Yes I'm confused why they would be replacing the A350 seats. Maybe it's just an evolution? Or is it the CEO hyperbolising again?
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Perhaps the new frames will get the new seat?
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Originally Posted by remdk
Morgo absolutely no chance!
AKL is scheduled to have the B777-200LR.
ITB, where the seat is to be launched first opens 8 March.
It will take some time to deliver and then the B777-300s will be retrofitted at the rate of 2-3 per month. There are 34 of them. Then other aircraft types will be considered and retro filtted after an, as yet, unknown plan.
It is thought that all widebodied aircraft that are delivered to QR after 8th. March will have the new seats. Unfortunately no B777-200s are on order at the moment.
I can understand that you cannot find this information on the forum because it is spread across at least TEN different threads with names such as "A350 vs. 77L - worth going out of my way for?" and "Super Business seat"!
Do I understand correctly, that it's rather not possible to experience new J hard product on route to AKL in 2017?
As for now, which type of seat do they have on B777 operating to AKL? Is it like in this http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.c...ess-class-777/ review?
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Old Jan 9, 2017, 3:15 am
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tropikey yes that is the B/E MiniPod seat that is currently installed on all B777s.
No one can give you a time for when the new seats will appear on the AKL route. The 34 773s are scheduled to take 12-17 months to retrofit with a possible start date in June. After that the most logical aircraft type would be the B772s.
Based on the known information my guess would be that AKL should see the new seats in 18-24 months.
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thanks a lot for explanation :-) It will help me with decision, when to fly. If I decide to fly before May, I might add 20k additional qmiles (promo regarding flights to AKL). Together with 5x qmiles which are offered today only, it would give me huge amount of qmiles (I haven't found any provision stating that these two offers can't be combined).

I have one more question regarding this matter. What do think about this seat from the perspective of such a long flight (one of the longest, isn't)? Is this comfortable enough to survive such flight?
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Originally Posted by tropikey
thanks a lot for explanation :-) It will help me with decision, when to fly. If I decide to fly before May, I might add 20k additional qmiles (promo regarding flights to AKL). Together with 5x qmiles which are offered today only, it would give me huge amount of qmiles (I haven't found any provision stating that these two offers can't be combined).

I have one more question regarding this matter. What do think about this seat from the perspective of such a long flight (one of the longest, isn't)? Is this comfortable enough to survive such flight?
Sorry to go off topic, but you should maybe check out this thread before banking on 5x miles:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/qatar-airways-privilege-club/1813833-qmiles-x2-x3-x6.html
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