Nov 20, 2013, 7:48 am
Last edit by: Pat89339
Do not call the airlines under any conditions! This is the fastest way to kill the trick and bring unwanted attention to your itinerary! And do not post precious deals in this thread, this is by far the fastest way to kill the trick!
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This is NOT the right place to ask: "Can you help me with a low fare for AAA-BBB?" This is not the beg-it thread, but the trick-it thread.
This thread deals with unique combinations of routes and booking tricks in order to lower prices on airline fares. Prices that would astound the general public are often achieved by the posters in this thread.
Many people, including airline representatives, monitor this thread. For that reason, it is unorganized, very content heavy, often lacking details, and written in shorthand. It takes patience and effort in order to understand the conversation and be able to participate as an active member.
We encourage you to read the entirety of this thread if you would like to get started and to experiment as soon as you understand the gist of Trick It. Lots of time spent reading, practicing, and learning is the only way to be able to reproduce our tricks and discover new ones yourself. There are many, many people who ask for advice here, so productive members are only able to help those who have shown a concerted effort and progress over a long period of time (months).
If you have no idea what this thread is about, a good place to start are various blogs' posts on the subject. At the very least, read the Rules for posting in this thread. They're also listed in the very first post, below.
Older portions of the thread have been separated into archive thread by year. They are listed below
2008 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2009 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2010 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2011 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2012 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2013 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2014 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
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This is NOT the right place to ask: "Can you help me with a low fare for AAA-BBB?" This is not the beg-it thread, but the trick-it thread.
This thread deals with unique combinations of routes and booking tricks in order to lower prices on airline fares. Prices that would astound the general public are often achieved by the posters in this thread.
Many people, including airline representatives, monitor this thread. For that reason, it is unorganized, very content heavy, often lacking details, and written in shorthand. It takes patience and effort in order to understand the conversation and be able to participate as an active member.
We encourage you to read the entirety of this thread if you would like to get started and to experiment as soon as you understand the gist of Trick It. Lots of time spent reading, practicing, and learning is the only way to be able to reproduce our tricks and discover new ones yourself. There are many, many people who ask for advice here, so productive members are only able to help those who have shown a concerted effort and progress over a long period of time (months).
If you have no idea what this thread is about, a good place to start are various blogs' posts on the subject. At the very least, read the Rules for posting in this thread. They're also listed in the very first post, below.
Older portions of the thread have been separated into archive thread by year. They are listed below
2008 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2009 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2010 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2011 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2012 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2013 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2014 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
Trick it / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
Apr 20, 2017, 6:32 pm
#8131
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: FRA
Posts: 24
Hey guys,
I'm pretty new to this, was reading much recently (got the first k pages of the thread I guess) and found a good c2-c6 fare, dumpable. I was able to reduce the fat by 50% with multiple negotiating skills (44% with an interesting self-dump), but still a long way to go. Any further hints for a CA c2-c6 100% dump?
Best wishes
I'm pretty new to this, was reading much recently (got the first k pages of the thread I guess) and found a good c2-c6 fare, dumpable. I was able to reduce the fat by 50% with multiple negotiating skills (44% with an interesting self-dump), but still a long way to go. Any further hints for a CA c2-c6 100% dump?
Best wishes
Apr 21, 2017, 3:22 am
#8132
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 40
I have found a number of dumps for a C2-C3 itin with a ME Carrier. Both 1Xs and 3Xs work but 1Xs far cheaper. 1Xs not the usual C4 ones but rather in C3, but don't have any idea if any of these 1Xs are safe.
Is anyone able to assist (via PM if needed) on whether these 1Xs are safe?
Is anyone able to assist (via PM if needed) on whether these 1Xs are safe?
Apr 21, 2017, 6:20 am
#8135
Suspended
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: New York Metropolitan Area 45 km from JFK
Programs: UA,AA,AS,BA
Posts: 4,607
Careful with that OTA. It is not Automated. They will take your "reservation", do a manual review and then inform you that trip will not be ticketed. Pay a tiny bit more and save your frustration. I paid ~ $ 46 and got instantly tickketed for my October trip.
Last edited by WingedWorldExplorer; Apr 21, 2017 at 6:28 am
Apr 21, 2017, 10:43 am
#8137
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 149
Right track
So I have read the first 100 and the last 100, and done the Google research on FD, and I am still trying to land my first FD. I am not asking for tips nor do I expect it on this forum, and understandably so. I am also certainly willing to put in the time to find the right FD, but I want to make sure I am walking in the right direction, and not in the opposite direction! Having said that, I would like to share my latest effort and simply ask a few yes/no questions.
I found a C1C3 fare for around $800 (quite good considering my city of departure) which came with a YQ of over 50%. So good candidate for a FD, I thought. I tried a dozen or so 1X and 3X flights on the same itinerary (on ITA by the way), and all jacked up the price considerably. By the 1X and 3Xs I mean connecting to my origin and connecting from my destination respectively, and I kept them within a 90 minute flight radius.
I am certainly willing to keep on that strategy for as long as it takes until I find the right strike, but I am not sure if I am on the right track, or even close to it. So here are my questions:
1- Am I on the right track?
2- Should the 1X and 3X be within the same alliance?
3- Is the information in the flight restrictions of the fare rule pertinent to finding the 1X or 3X?
Thanks in advance for your replies on this thread or PMs!
I found a C1C3 fare for around $800 (quite good considering my city of departure) which came with a YQ of over 50%. So good candidate for a FD, I thought. I tried a dozen or so 1X and 3X flights on the same itinerary (on ITA by the way), and all jacked up the price considerably. By the 1X and 3Xs I mean connecting to my origin and connecting from my destination respectively, and I kept them within a 90 minute flight radius.
I am certainly willing to keep on that strategy for as long as it takes until I find the right strike, but I am not sure if I am on the right track, or even close to it. So here are my questions:
1- Am I on the right track?
2- Should the 1X and 3X be within the same alliance?
3- Is the information in the flight restrictions of the fare rule pertinent to finding the 1X or 3X?
Thanks in advance for your replies on this thread or PMs!
Apr 21, 2017, 11:03 am
#8138
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Brooklyn
Programs: UA Silver; Marriott Gold; Hyatt Diamond
Posts: 522
By the 1X and 3Xs I mean connecting to my origin and connecting from my destination respectively, and I kept them within a 90 minute flight radius.
1- Am I on the right track?
2- Should the 1X and 3X be within the same alliance?
3- Is the information in the flight restrictions of the fare rule pertinent to finding the 1X or 3X?
Thanks in advance for your replies on this thread or PMs!
1- Am I on the right track?
2- Should the 1X and 3X be within the same alliance?
3- Is the information in the flight restrictions of the fare rule pertinent to finding the 1X or 3X?
Thanks in advance for your replies on this thread or PMs!
1. Kinda
2. Not necessarily
3. Yes, but some OTAs can do odd things.
Apr 21, 2017, 11:41 am
#8140
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: FRA
Posts: 24
A YQ of over 50% isn't the only characteristic a good candidate fare needs, read the fare rules and figure out, if there is the possibility for an additional segment.
Apr 21, 2017, 11:41 am
#8141
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 149
And "1. Kinda" is because "The 1X or 3X definitely does not need to link geographically with the main flight"?
Apr 21, 2017, 12:12 pm
#8142
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: LEJ, BOG
Posts: 25
Saustark!
More of a historico-philosophical question: Do you consider Russia part of Europe? I spend some time in Poland last summer and these guys were pretty darn shure to be "Central Europe" - it needed a lot of Tatar to avert a major fist fight
Apr 21, 2017, 12:29 pm
#8143
Moderator: Budget Travel forum & Credit Card Programs, FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: YYJ/YVR and back on Van Isle ....... for now
Programs: UA lifetime MM / *A Gold
Posts: 14,429
Apr 21, 2017, 3:30 pm
#8145
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 4
C1e-C2w £34 One Way
Also a C3 airline can be used as a very effective 1x too
Also a C3 airline can be used as a very effective 1x too
First post here. Mainly I am hanging around in the german sister forum.
For getting more familiar with the topic I try to crack the riddles here in this thread with more or less success.
The crutial point for me is - if I am not able to find the fare in the Matrix and have no success with the OTA's via the power tool the search is over, because I see no change among the countless other OTA's to finding the right one with the right trick (1x, 3x or whatever).
Regarding the fare decribed above (no intention to fly it) - Is it ITA friendly?
I guess I've found the right fare, but can't get it under 180€ with a 1x.
Thanks!