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Old Nov 20, 2013, 7:48 am
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This thread deals with unique combinations of routes and booking tricks in order to lower prices on airline fares. Prices that would astound the general public are often achieved by the posters in this thread.

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Old Mar 18, 2024, 9:21 pm
  #11656  
 
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Originally Posted by Deltahater
I just traveled on JFK-AMS RT on Sunday.. Candy condition. Somebody else just left JFK yesterday in the same condition.
Plenty of people still traveling on old bookings. I have one old booking left too. Only asking if anyone has booked recently.
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Old Mar 19, 2024, 9:25 pm
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I have been out of the game for several years (pandemic and other reasons). Trying to get back in. Anything working C1-C3 now? Please PM whatever you can share. Any communication will be handled most responsibly.
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Old Mar 20, 2024, 9:39 am
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Originally Posted by aktchi
I have been out of the game for several years (pandemic and other reasons). Trying to get back in. Anything working C1-C3 now? Please PM whatever you can share. Any communication will be handled most responsibly.
Welcome back. A friendly face from the legendary LH RGN battle. There are a few C1-C3 out there, but they are far and few between so people are very protective of them.
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Old Mar 23, 2024, 12:31 am
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C3-C1 rt USD310-320
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Old Mar 23, 2024, 9:17 am
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Originally Posted by PbodyPhoto
Yup, no EOE generally prevents a dump but we know thats not always the case in practice. Northing I have tried yet has dumped it.
There is at least one practical construction remaining but value highly dependent on BFs. Probably not justifiable to most at the moment
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Old Apr 21, 2024, 4:53 am
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Hi
Is this possible to Dump ? I ran this on a personal tool allowing me to automate the strike search, but impossible to strike in x1, by the way if some want to collaborate PM me,

Combinability

END-ON-END PERMITTED. SIDE TRIPS PERMITTED. VALIDATE ALL
FARE COMPONENTS. TRAVEL MUST BE VIA POINT OF COMBINATION.
APPLICABLE ADD-ON CONSTRUCTION IS ADDRESSED IN
MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS - CATEGORY 23.


PROVIDED -
WHEN THE OPEN SEGMENT OCCURS
-WITHIN AREA 2 OR WITHIN AREA 3
COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY X-/V-/N-/Q-/E-/P-/A-/U-/T-
TYPE FARES IN ANY RULE AND TARIFF.

Sales restrictions

TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON HU AND MAY NOT BE SOLD IN EGYPT
AND MAY ONLY BE SOLD IN AREA 1/AREA 2/AREA 3

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Old Apr 27, 2024, 1:22 am
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How the F do I book a sandwich built on mtrx. Jfly and Fhub error on submit and PL doesn't accept deeplinks
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Old Apr 27, 2024, 1:46 am
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Originally Posted by Milice
Hi
Is this possible to Dump ? I ran this on a personal tool allowing me to automate the strike search, but impossible to strike in x1, by the way if some want to collaborate PM me,
It's likely possible to COMBINE with that fare. Whether it's possible to dump -depends on carrier and other limitations (sorry, didn't check whose fare it is)
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Old Apr 27, 2024, 1:50 am
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Originally Posted by 15cats
How the F do I book a sandwich built on mtrx. Jfly and Fhub error on submit and PL doesn't accept deeplinks
Depends on what type of sandwich it is. Simpler once you can typically reproduce on PL, GF or Kayak leg by leg. The ones with too many segments or for mixed class itineraries are tough these days. Happy if anyone have extra tips for those as they are the ones I'm typically after.
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Old Apr 27, 2024, 2:00 am
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Originally Posted by maxvor
Depends on what type of sandwich it is. Simpler once you can typically reproduce on PL, GF or Kayak leg by leg. The ones with too many segments or for mixed class itineraries are tough these days. Happy if anyone have extra tips for those as they are the ones I'm typically after.
Yeah I can't get mixed class to work. Very sad since my sandwich does not offer high class
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Old Apr 28, 2024, 2:37 am
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Originally Posted by 15cats
How the F do I book a sandwich built on mtrx. Jfly and Fhub error on submit and PL doesn't accept deeplinks
Deeplinks via UAScript/PL have been broken for several months now, since PL introduced api based encrypted deeplinks.

Jfly/flub are the one and the same compnay under 2 different websites..so if it doesnt work at one place..it doesn't work at another.

There are many reasons why a fare cant be priced..amongst other, phantom availability for e.g and many more. There are other OTAs that might be able to ticket..but not necessarily via matrix user script.
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Old Apr 29, 2024, 3:47 pm
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I haven't ever followed this forum, but I stumbled upon what I think is a FD, in J, round trip from C1 to C2, with a 3X flight a full six months later. It isn't a killer deal, but my dates were essentially fixed, and adding the third flight lowered the fare by about 30%. Thing is, I need the third flight for a separate trip and fully intend to take it (I have a hotel and a rental car already booked). Poking around FT, I see that there is some risk of the entire ticket being cancelled by the airline. Is this the kind of thing that happens often? I don't have history of skipping flight legs.
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Old Apr 29, 2024, 3:51 pm
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Originally Posted by goldmarch
I haven't ever followed this forum, but I stumbled upon what I think is a FD, in J, round trip from C1 to C2, with a 3X flight a full six months later. It isn't a killer deal, but my dates were essentially fixed, and adding the third flight lowered the fare by about 30%. Thing is, I need the third flight for a separate trip and fully intend to take it (I have a hotel and a rental car already booked). Poking around FT, I see that there is some risk of the entire ticket being cancelled by the airline. Is this the kind of thing that happens often? I don't have history of skipping flight legs.
I will pm you about this...
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Old Apr 29, 2024, 9:49 pm
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Originally Posted by goldmarch
I haven't ever followed this forum, but I stumbled upon what I think is a FD, in J, round trip from C1 to C2, with a 3X flight a full six months later. It isn't a killer deal, but my dates were essentially fixed, and adding the third flight lowered the fare by about 30%. Thing is, I need the third flight for a separate trip and fully intend to take it (I have a hotel and a rental car already booked). Poking around FT, I see that there is some risk of the entire ticket being cancelled by the airline. Is this the kind of thing that happens often? I don't have history of skipping flight legs.
Why would the airline cancel the entire ticket before you fly? The danger with these tickets is a 1x and missing that flight. I don't think I've seen evidence of airlines canceling tickets if booked with a 3x.
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Old May 1, 2024, 3:31 pm
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Hi guys,
I found several dumpable candidates, but impossible to find even the slightest 3X despite thousands and thousands of combinations automated with an OTA.
I wonder if it's that difficult to find and if 3X with national flights still exist ? I spent hours and hours but I don't see any results it's frustrating
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