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Old Nov 20, 2013, 7:48 am
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Do not call the airlines under any conditions! This is the fastest way to kill the trick and bring unwanted attention to your itinerary! And do not post precious deals in this thread, this is by far the fastest way to kill the trick!



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This is NOT the right place to ask: "Can you help me with a low fare for AAA-BBB?" This is not the beg-it thread, but the trick-it thread.

This thread deals with unique combinations of routes and booking tricks in order to lower prices on airline fares. Prices that would astound the general public are often achieved by the posters in this thread.

Many people, including airline representatives, monitor this thread. For that reason, it is unorganized, very content heavy, often lacking details, and written in shorthand. It takes patience and effort in order to understand the conversation and be able to participate as an active member.

We encourage you to read the entirety of this thread if you would like to get started and to experiment as soon as you understand the gist of Trick It. Lots of time spent reading, practicing, and learning is the only way to be able to reproduce our tricks and discover new ones yourself. There are many, many people who ask for advice here, so productive members are only able to help those who have shown a concerted effort and progress over a long period of time (months).

If you have no idea what this thread is about, a good place to start are various blogs' posts on the subject. At the very least, read the Rules for posting in this thread. They're also listed in the very first post, below.

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Old Oct 21, 2023, 9:50 pm
  #11506  
 
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Originally Posted by oskiboski
its begining in country with expensive visa even in transit ?
must be USA!
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Old Oct 22, 2023, 10:50 am
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anyone willing to help me understand why I can't dump these good looking tk fares to c3 even when using the nordic airline suggested in the rules? any suggestions much appreciated
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Old Oct 24, 2023, 2:10 pm
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Any chance of dumping that nice fare of FM BUD - NGB? Chinese airlines used to be friendly for partial/total discounts in pre-covid times, however they are currently appearing less friendly. Thanks for any potential help/directions.
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Old Oct 25, 2023, 2:37 pm
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Originally Posted by man4business
What kind of information do you expect in this thread? You got more than enough (seriously).
You are so right. I have low expectations since all the contributors of meaningful information, including yourself, have either left the thread, [TOS 18 violation] or stopped contributing.
Great way to kill a thread.

Last edited by Pat89339; Oct 25, 2023 at 6:55 pm Reason: TOS 18
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Old Oct 25, 2023, 2:47 pm
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In this (very specific) thread, all you should receive and accept is a cryptic piece of information, e.g., C1-C3 /ow 156 USD a.i. (I provide you with a real, working example). With even this hint, seemingly limited at first glance, I feel uneasy because Secret Flying is going to market literally everything, regardless of the fact that they may kill the deal within hours or days. This is the crux: the high popularity of lucrative deals is lethal to them. People not involved in FD fragility do not understand it, and they assume it doesn't matter - yes, it indeed matters if the deal is exposed or even sold.
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Old Oct 25, 2023, 3:16 pm
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I do miss the riddles

C4 - C3e
C3e - C4

100% dump

2 connections, 2 airlines > 20,000 miles.

£350 ITA, Seem to be stuck around £450 on some OTA's.
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Old Oct 26, 2023, 12:53 pm
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Flash sale 9 hours remaining

CX-CX
CX-CX RT LIE-FLAT BIZ
$397

CX-CX
CX-CX RT LIE-FLAT BIZ
$684

CX-CX
CX-CX RT LIE-FLAT BIZ
$493

CX-CX
CX-CX RT LIE-FLAT BIZ
$844

Rumor has it one of these can be simplified down to $XXX

Shoutout to @SourSweetTea for helping optimize this deal. Good luck to all!

Last edited by Gongoozler; Oct 26, 2023 at 11:57 pm Reason: Still alive???
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Old Oct 26, 2023, 3:45 pm
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Was able to get c2-c1-c2-c1 in J for ~$2500 which is not too bad for 2 rt in J but still not as good of a deal as above

Shoutout Gongoozler for the pointer!.. will keep going at it till figure it out!

*pardon me being a a noob and got the direction wrong in my original post

Last edited by metal bird; Oct 26, 2023 at 3:51 pm Reason: got the direction wrong in my original post
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Old Oct 27, 2023, 6:53 am
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Originally Posted by Gongoozler
CX-CX
CX-CX RT LIE-FLAT BIZ
$397

Rumor has it one of these can be simplified down to $XXX

Shoutout to @SourSweetTea for helping optimize this deal. Good luck to all!
Bought one of those with 3X

and also bought a

1X based from my hometown airport for £ 98.75 R/T Seats 2F and 4 F.

will cancel the 3X based within the 24 hour window because I believe the 1X is skippable.

@ £ 98.75 R/T there is not so much to loose if I am wrong.

It seems gone for now but will probably come back since this airline is notorious for posting ultra low Base Fares for its "front of the cabin" seats.
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Last edited by WingedWorldExplorer; Oct 27, 2023 at 7:21 am
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Old Oct 27, 2023, 7:02 am
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Originally Posted by WingedWorldExplorer
Bought one of those 3X and also bought a

1X based from my hometown airport for £ 98.75 R/T Seats 2F and 4 F.

will cancel the 3X within 24 hour window because I believe the 1X is skippable.

@ £ 98.75 R/T there is not so much to loose if I am wrong.
It's not working anymore, right? Because the BF is gone

I bought with x3 last night for €226
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Old Oct 27, 2023, 7:54 am
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Originally Posted by thanaset
It's not working anymore, right? Because the BF is gone

I bought with x3 last night for €226
Yes the BF was just for their introductory offer for the new routes.

Let's just hope they keep expanding
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Old Oct 27, 2023, 10:11 am
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Skandinaviska?
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Old Oct 27, 2023, 11:19 am
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cxx-cxx rt biz £xxx
cxx-cxx rt biz £xxx

Last edited by Kawsako; Oct 27, 2023 at 7:38 pm Reason: cannot get tickets confirmed.
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Old Oct 27, 2023, 2:27 pm
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C3-C2 rt USD279, no 1x.
Possibly optimizable with OTAs.
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Old Oct 27, 2023, 4:53 pm
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Originally Posted by Kawsako
C2n-C5 RT BIZ £281
C3e-C5 RT BIZ £503
So, from the Rules of Posting in the Trick It Thread at the first page, it gives the following definition:

Below are the new posting rules for the Trick It Thread. They will also be posted as a Sticky in the Discussion Forum and in the first post of this thread.

Rules of Posting in the Trick It Thread:
1. Adhere to these rules or your post will be deleted without comment.
2. The current naming convention of this thread is as follows:
C1 = North America
C1.5 = Caribbean, Central America and Mexico including Bermuda and Bahamas
C2 = Europe
C2.5 = Middle East, including Israel and Egypt
C3 = Asia
C4 = South America
C4a = Venezuela, Colombia, Ecuador, Peru
C4b = Chile, Bolivia, Brazil, Argentina, Surinam, Guyana, Paraguay and Uruguay
C5 = Africa
C6 = Australia, New Zealand, and the Oceania range

Directional additions such as n, s, e, and w are allowed to narrow an area.
So, I decoded your code as follow:
C2n is the airport in Northern Europe
C5 is the airport in Africa (Not the airport in the Middle East including Israel and Egypt which is C2.5)
C3e is the airport in East Asia

Do I understand your code correctly?

So, I looked at the Wikipedia and it gives me the following countries:
Northern Europe includes Denmark, Estonia, Finland, Iceland, Ireland, Latvia, Lithuania, Norway, Sweden and United Kingdom
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Europe
East Asia includes China, Japan, Mongolia, North Korea, South Korea, Taiwan, Hong Kong and Macau
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Asia
Africa includes all countries in Africa Continent except the countries that defied as Middle East, including Israel and Egypt

Middle East:
By the mid-20th century a common definition of the Middle East encompassed the states or territories of Turkey, Cyprus, Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, Iran, Israel, the West Bank, the Gaza Strip, Jordan, Egypt, Sudan, Libya, and the various states and territories of Arabia proper (Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Yemen, Oman, Bahrain, Qatar, and the Trucial States, or Trucial Oman [now United Arab Emirates]).
https://www.britannica.com/place/Middle-East
I do have to ask you about your code again since I have been trying and looking for the Base Fare and found nothing closes to the price that you posted, I just want to make sure that I am in the right direction or do you mean something lest?

Thank you very much for posting the trick!
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