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Old Nov 20, 2013, 7:48 am
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Do not call the airlines under any conditions! This is the fastest way to kill the trick and bring unwanted attention to your itinerary! And do not post precious deals in this thread, this is by far the fastest way to kill the trick!



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This is NOT the right place to ask: "Can you help me with a low fare for AAA-BBB?" This is not the beg-it thread, but the trick-it thread.

This thread deals with unique combinations of routes and booking tricks in order to lower prices on airline fares. Prices that would astound the general public are often achieved by the posters in this thread.

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Old May 1, 2017, 11:02 am
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Join Date: May 2016
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Originally Posted by de.de
Departing cities, destinAtion, fare code, strIke?
anything else for you?
I was a bit thrown off at first but then I remembered stumbling upon this fare a few days ago. Thanks for being a good pal with this find
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Old May 1, 2017, 2:18 pm
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Originally Posted by de.de
Departing cities, destinAtion, fare code, strIke?
anything else for you?
i don't need that.

I have c2-c3 for 232€ . Good departure city for me ;* Kiss for you.
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Old May 1, 2017, 3:05 pm
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C2-C3 $220 (different departure than previous post)

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Old May 1, 2017, 8:13 pm
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Originally Posted by Timidocvl
C1-C5 - under $300.

Don't phone home.
Somehow this fare is still available on ITA, but I cannot find an OTA to book it. Any help is greatly appreciated!

EDIT: got it booked Praying to the airline gods this is not cancelled.

Last edited by mustardboy; May 2, 2017 at 1:58 am
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Old May 2, 2017, 12:07 am
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hi guys - general question here.

if i find a low base high YQ dumpable fare that ends in Manila for example (with Philippines banning fuel surcharge).
And look to find a 3x from mnl to somewhere else in s.e. asia.. is it destined to fail because fuel surcharge cant be collected on a fare wherein fuel surcharge can't be taken?

Sounds like a self-answering question, but throwing it out to the experts just in case.
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Old May 2, 2017, 2:23 pm
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How do you usually find the lowest base fares? Do you use a tool like EF or what else?
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Old May 2, 2017, 10:21 pm
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Originally Posted by privateandinstrument
Seriously though, at times I do numerous somewhat complex and broad queries, and it works fine, other times for a period of time, everything, including simple round-trips time-outs. Could be load related as well.
Once you have found specific flights you want to take, you can enter those specific flight numbers in the ITA search and then timeouts when adding additional segments will be less frequent.
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Old May 3, 2017, 7:05 am
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Last week, I found and booked a c1c3 with a lucky X3 (lucky because it literally took me minutes to find it) which took all the fat out. Yesterday, I tried booking the same itinerary for a companion, and although BF before the X3 was the same, when I added the X3, while it took all the fat out, the BF Jumped about eightfold.

I can't say the X3 stopped working because it actually did take the fat out, but why did the BF jump? Would forcing the booking class have been a possibility to get the low FD fare back?
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Old May 3, 2017, 7:06 am
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Originally Posted by BangkokTraveler
Once you have found specific flights you want to take, you can enter those specific flight numbers in the ITA search and then timeouts when adding additional segments will be less frequent.
Thanks. I will try that.
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Old May 3, 2017, 10:36 am
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Originally Posted by privateandinstrument
Last week, I found and booked a c1c3 with a lucky X3 (lucky because it literally took me minutes to find it) which took all the fat out. Yesterday, I tried booking the same itinerary for a companion, and although BF before the X3 was the same, when I added the X3, while it took all the fat out, the BF Jumped about eightfold.

I can't say the X3 stopped working because it actually did take the fat out, but why did the BF jump? Would forcing the booking class have been a possibility to get the low FD fare back?
Most likely the fare rules have changed.
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Old May 3, 2017, 11:14 am
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Originally Posted by jms_uk
Most likely the fare rules have changed.
​​​​​​​also possible that all the tickets in the lowest booking class for those dates are gone. Did you try other dates?
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Old May 3, 2017, 11:24 am
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Originally Posted by mustardboy
​​​​​​​also possible that all the tickets in the lowest booking class for those dates are gone. Did you try other dates?
The fares were there; same low BF, but they would jump once I added the 3x.
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Old May 3, 2017, 11:26 am
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Originally Posted by mustardboy
​​​​​​​also possible that all the tickets in the lowest booking class for those dates are gone. Did you try other dates?
And yes, I did try different dates where the low BF fare was available, but the same behaviour once I added the 3x.
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Old May 3, 2017, 11:27 am
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Originally Posted by jms_uk
Most likely the fare rules have changed.
Yep, that's what I am guessing..
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Old May 3, 2017, 12:26 pm
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Guess is useless, just check
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