Nov 20, 2013, 7:48 am
Last edit by: Pat89339
Do not call the airlines under any conditions! This is the fastest way to kill the trick and bring unwanted attention to your itinerary! And do not post precious deals in this thread, this is by far the fastest way to kill the trick!
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This is NOT the right place to ask: "Can you help me with a low fare for AAA-BBB?" This is not the beg-it thread, but the trick-it thread.
This thread deals with unique combinations of routes and booking tricks in order to lower prices on airline fares. Prices that would astound the general public are often achieved by the posters in this thread.
Many people, including airline representatives, monitor this thread. For that reason, it is unorganized, very content heavy, often lacking details, and written in shorthand. It takes patience and effort in order to understand the conversation and be able to participate as an active member.
We encourage you to read the entirety of this thread if you would like to get started and to experiment as soon as you understand the gist of Trick It. Lots of time spent reading, practicing, and learning is the only way to be able to reproduce our tricks and discover new ones yourself. There are many, many people who ask for advice here, so productive members are only able to help those who have shown a concerted effort and progress over a long period of time (months).
If you have no idea what this thread is about, a good place to start are various blogs' posts on the subject. At the very least, read the Rules for posting in this thread. They're also listed in the very first post, below.
Older portions of the thread have been separated into archive thread by year. They are listed below
2008 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2009 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2010 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2011 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2012 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2013 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2014 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
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This is NOT the right place to ask: "Can you help me with a low fare for AAA-BBB?" This is not the beg-it thread, but the trick-it thread.
This thread deals with unique combinations of routes and booking tricks in order to lower prices on airline fares. Prices that would astound the general public are often achieved by the posters in this thread.
Many people, including airline representatives, monitor this thread. For that reason, it is unorganized, very content heavy, often lacking details, and written in shorthand. It takes patience and effort in order to understand the conversation and be able to participate as an active member.
We encourage you to read the entirety of this thread if you would like to get started and to experiment as soon as you understand the gist of Trick It. Lots of time spent reading, practicing, and learning is the only way to be able to reproduce our tricks and discover new ones yourself. There are many, many people who ask for advice here, so productive members are only able to help those who have shown a concerted effort and progress over a long period of time (months).
If you have no idea what this thread is about, a good place to start are various blogs' posts on the subject. At the very least, read the Rules for posting in this thread. They're also listed in the very first post, below.
Older portions of the thread have been separated into archive thread by year. They are listed below
2008 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2009 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2010 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2011 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2012 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2013 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2014 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
Trick it / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
Apr 10, 2017, 5:45 pm
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Apr 10, 2017, 5:54 pm
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Apr 10, 2017, 6:21 pm
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Apr 11, 2017, 7:57 am
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Apr 11, 2017, 10:25 am
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Hello for everyone!
In the current I read this topic periodically and try to find some sort of working FD
However, now I have only a superficial understanding of how this works. To understand what I need to do next, I would like to get at least a simple confirmation of the available knowledge
I understand that no one wants to reveal years of tried and tested methods, it's enough for me just to receive answer "Yes" or "No" to my statements. Can someone help me with this in the PM?
Thank you.
In the current I read this topic periodically and try to find some sort of working FD
However, now I have only a superficial understanding of how this works. To understand what I need to do next, I would like to get at least a simple confirmation of the available knowledge
I understand that no one wants to reveal years of tried and tested methods, it's enough for me just to receive answer "Yes" or "No" to my statements. Can someone help me with this in the PM?
Thank you.
Apr 11, 2017, 12:42 pm
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If you are a cute italian girl (guessing by your nickname), we might make a deal. Otherwise good luck :-)
Apr 12, 2017, 2:52 am
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Apr 12, 2017, 6:17 am
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Hello for everyone!
In the current I read this topic periodically and try to find some sort of working FD
However, now I have only a superficial understanding of how this works. To understand what I need to do next, I would like to get at least a simple confirmation of the available knowledge
I understand that no one wants to reveal years of tried and tested methods, it's enough for me just to receive answer "Yes" or "No" to my statements. Can someone help me with this in the PM?
Thank you.
In the current I read this topic periodically and try to find some sort of working FD
However, now I have only a superficial understanding of how this works. To understand what I need to do next, I would like to get at least a simple confirmation of the available knowledge
I understand that no one wants to reveal years of tried and tested methods, it's enough for me just to receive answer "Yes" or "No" to my statements. Can someone help me with this in the PM?
Thank you.
Apr 12, 2017, 12:40 pm
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Apr 12, 2017, 6:29 pm
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Apr 12, 2017, 9:21 pm
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One other question that is likely obvious to everyone but me: if you're doing a 1X dump, does that mean you have to actually fly that segment? What if it's somewhere a continent away?
Apr 13, 2017, 12:06 am
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As I understood:
1. Dump logic linked only with the 1x, 3x, 2x etc, or with something else?
2. For the flight could be dump - it must have the base fare maximum 50-60% of total and must have EOE / side trips permitted?
3. For example 3x - it's a short-time flight operating by a small carrier, that also must have EOE / side trips permitted?
4. As the result - a dump appears, if a main carrier don't have interline with a 3x carrier?
5. Dumps can be find only in ITA or only by the aggregators, or both.
6. Overall - it's a simple search between hundreds combinations of a main flight and different 3x flights from all the world, or I can find a system?
And especially:
7. If we forget about the complexity - is it really to find a dump for ANY flight (big carriers, f.e.)?
Apr 13, 2017, 12:28 am
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1) Invest all your time in 1x/3x in the begin
2) it doesn't matter to dump, but dumping a flight with 300€ basefare and 40€ YQ isn't worth it ofcourse
3) invest in the begin your time in short flights with open EoE
4) without interline (in the real defenition of the word) it would be impossible to combine the mainflights with the 3x, but you're sort of right. Read through this thread in a smart way to understand why.
5) depends on the dump, there are especially MANY that aren't ITAble
6) read the fare rules very well and learn to understand the constructions. Read through this thread in a smart way. Searching randomly for 3x'es is a loss of time.
7) 90% of the fares of the main carriers (can be argued about) can be dumped in some way, but the constructions will sometimes be so complex that it isn't worth it at all, don't invest your time in this.
2) it doesn't matter to dump, but dumping a flight with 300€ basefare and 40€ YQ isn't worth it ofcourse
3) invest in the begin your time in short flights with open EoE
4) without interline (in the real defenition of the word) it would be impossible to combine the mainflights with the 3x, but you're sort of right. Read through this thread in a smart way to understand why.
5) depends on the dump, there are especially MANY that aren't ITAble
6) read the fare rules very well and learn to understand the constructions. Read through this thread in a smart way. Searching randomly for 3x'es is a loss of time.
7) 90% of the fares of the main carriers (can be argued about) can be dumped in some way, but the constructions will sometimes be so complex that it isn't worth it at all, don't invest your time in this.