oscar555

Makes sense. They don't have gates by C7 anymore. Heck, that might be AA's new CSC when they move to see pretty soon. I heard that it was going to be moved over by the UA club, but I thoguht it be kind of a weird setup since there is practically no room in between those banjo gates.

lincolnjkc

I thought it would make sense to put it in one of those closed restaurant places (either Asian cho or whatever it was by C28 or the gelato place near C10)... Guess the new location doesn't up their rent any...

FreqFlyerCLE

Nice! As I said in earlier post, UA and UAX have a number of flights to/from CLE to destinations that they normally don't fly to from CLE. This was the first I've seen where they open flight to revenue.

As regards to the CSC relocation, I wonder if it is a temporary move or permanent. The CLE signage still points to C7 for the CSC.

ctownflyer

Please post about them whenever you see them in the future. With a bit more leadtime I'd probably be on my way to SEA right now

oscar555

That would actually be a great idea to do. The bad thing is that UA and the city are either too lazy or too concerned about budgeting that they don't consider that an option. Typical.

It's gotta be permanent. It would make no sense for it to be at C7 when their gates are all the way at the end of C. If I remember right, it's been moved for a while now.

Yes, please do this! The more news the better! By the way, only 11 days until F9 has it's new routes. I wonder how it will go.

ctownflyer

Probably not great...

PHL $18
ATL $35
RDU: $38
PDX: $48
SEA $58
PHX $68
LAS $83
LAX $83

oscar555

I'm with you on that. I don't think PHL will last long and PDX won't be year round for long I think. It's a shame that LAX and SFO aren't daily because that is where they would make most of their money. They still have a SFO deal going on. I was tempted to just do the $19/way deal to PHL just to try them out.

Here's another odd UA flight that I just noticed.

It's UA flight 2139 departing Lake Charles, LA and arriving at CLE at 10:56 PM (now 12:21 AM due to a delay). It arrives at gate C14. I'm not sure what this is either. Hmmm....

See the attached picture for info.



Image link: http://s16.postimg.cc/gfooxclk5/united_2139.jpg

rolltribe

There's a maintenance facility there. I believe it's mostly for painting. Probably entering back into service after the ferry to CLE.

manneca

I see that Virgin America has east coast flights and to Chicago. It would be fantastic if they added Cleveland to the mix when the merger with Alaska becomes final. If they did, I'd throw UA over in a heartbeat. (Yes, I know it probably won't happen.)

plinth857

You never know... they do want to grow. They could provide competition to Frontier on the CLE-->SEA route. I would believe that a once daily flight to this destination would provide a nice test to see if they could be successful in our market.

moops380

Frontier will pull out the second AS starts that route. Other routes for AS won't happen any time soon. There will be no competition cle-sea.

No one has yet tested the new E-190/195 jets for long routes. Its within their range for cle-san/lax/sfo/pdx/sea etc, and would seemingly work well if demand were there. Frontier is having issues filling 180 seat planes for some of these routes, but would airline xyz have issues filling 100?

oscar555

I think it depends who the airline is. In my opinion, if an airline like AS did CLE-SEA/SAN/etc. I would much rather go with them simply because their product is better. I'm sure a lot of people would do that as well. That might explain why there are a lot of CLE-SEA pax doing connections instead of a direct flight.

moops380

Jet Blue does use e-190 to boston...

People connect because they have no other option or don't want to pay more for a direct. Why does a direct cost more than 2 non direct flights? corporate america mostly. Frontier is currently filling these gaps with less than daily service. If I'm flexible, I will gladly take a $40 flight to portland. I am happy F9 is providing less than daily service to otherwise unserved places, if you've ever tried to go to portland the past 5 years flights are never under $180 per direction.

Everyone should realize this and buy up the cheap flights, if no one does, frontier will move away. They already are going to cmh this summer and have been in cvg as long as cle.

beyondhere

I think Frontier targets the seasonal cruise bound traffic originating from CLE. If AS added CLE, AS would target business traffic, leisure and rely on more steady year-round traffic, between the markets.

AS would likely schedule the flights oriented towards SEA based business traffic as well, while F9 would schedule the flights oriented toward plane utlilization (west coast red-eyes).

In summation, Frontier helps stimulate traffic between the market with a nonstop, albeit seasonal, but helps towards AS ever considering launching CLE.

With the AS/VX merger, I don't see AS really being on DAL-DCA/LGA long term, although it might keep DAL for west bound flights. Maybe it could re-allocate the DCA/LGA slot pairs to CLE and create a mini scissor operation with LGA/DCA-CLE-LAX/SFO/SEA. This would challenge UA to some extent on it's declining CLE operation.

plinth857

As nice as that would be, I personally don't see that happening. I wonder if Delta will be making a play if AS decides to divest those gates at Love Field, which I consider to be a distinct possibility.