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CLE - Impact of other airlines (gates, routes, equipment, & etc) after UA De-Hubbing
#1531
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: CLE
Programs: UA,WN,AA,DL, B6
Posts: 4,169
The direct Paris fight is more attractive then these Iceland Flights. Not mutch better then changing planes in EWR. London also would be nice. I was on the CO first flight 6/30/99 which is more then 18 years ago.
#1532
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: JZRO
Posts: 9,169
#1533
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Cleveland, OH, USA, UA Silver, Hilton Gold
Posts: 772
For practical purposes, how much of a savings is IcelandAir over other airlines when going to Europe? I know that's a general question but I'm curious as to what the experience has been.
Air fair is the only advantage I see unless you really want to visit Iceland. To me, it seems changing planes at KEF is the same thing as changing planes at ORD, YYZ, JFK, IAD, BOS. Am I missing something?
Air fair is the only advantage I see unless you really want to visit Iceland. To me, it seems changing planes at KEF is the same thing as changing planes at ORD, YYZ, JFK, IAD, BOS. Am I missing something?
I would also much rather clear customs at CLE (despite the sub-standard FIS here, it certainly is functional for a 757 or A321), especially with Global Entry, and be home and in bed within an hour of arrival in the US. I'm looking forward to the option of Icelandair (and maybe WOW for a quick, cheap jaunt to Europe)
#1534
Join Date: Jul 2004
Programs: AA US
Posts: 378
WOW offers the Spirit-style bargains; Icelandair's appeal to me is Saga Class, which I think of as an equivalent to the Euro-version of premium economy (food, drinks, and a bigger seat in both width and pitch). Saga seems to be slightly cheaper than PE (about 10%) and *much* cheaper (up to 2/3s less) than business class, while costing only slightly more than Y on traditional carriers. You also get Saga on both legs of the trip, whereas PE is often available on only one leg.
#1535
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: JZRO
Posts: 9,169
CLE-XXX-AMS (RT)
AA $1306.36
DL $1307.36
UA $1307.36
FI $814.32
I'd say that's substantial savings.
FI's price includes the baggage fee and free selection of seats at booking, but food is extra. Baggage is extra on the other airlines (although it's waived for elites and certain CC holders) but food is free. So, there are some fee differences, but not too consequential.
#1536
Join Date: Jun 2014
Programs: UA MM
Posts: 4,129
I am a booked customer on a mid-May FI trip from CLE to AMS (economy class). Here's what some other airlines want versus what I paid.
CLE-XXX-AMS (RT)
AA $1306.36
DL $1307.36
UA $1307.36
FI $814.32
I'd say that's substantial savings.
FI's price includes the baggage fee and free selection of seats at booking, but food is extra. Baggage is extra on the other airlines (although it's waived for elites and certain CC holders) but food is free. So, there are some fee differences, but not too consequential.
CLE-XXX-AMS (RT)
AA $1306.36
DL $1307.36
UA $1307.36
FI $814.32
I'd say that's substantial savings.
FI's price includes the baggage fee and free selection of seats at booking, but food is extra. Baggage is extra on the other airlines (although it's waived for elites and certain CC holders) but food is free. So, there are some fee differences, but not too consequential.
BTW, for comparison I just priced out a hypothetical CLE-AMS for next May in Saga Class and it came out a little over $2300.
#1537
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: JZRO
Posts: 9,169
Yes, definitely a difference. Status may be a factor, too, as some UA flyers in Cleveland can automatically get E+ which really has no comparison on FI (unless you consider a 33" seat pitch "comfort"). I don't think the baggage comments are correct, though. I know UA allows one free checked bag on transatlantic flights and probably the others do, too.
BTW, for comparison I just priced out a hypothetical CLE-AMS for next May in Saga Class and it came out a little over $2300.
BTW, for comparison I just priced out a hypothetical CLE-AMS for next May in Saga Class and it came out a little over $2300.
Anyway, my example was strictly coach class to Amsterdam. Factoring in status, variations between airlines' metal, seat pitch, meal quality, service levels in better classes, etc., are valid but complicate any 4-airline comparison. For simply getting a tourist from CLE to EU in an admittedly E- seat, FI packs a wallop pricewise.
RNE, promising to write an FI Trip Report next May (in the proper forum).
P.S. I'm used to flying over the pond in business class, but SAGA ain't that (as far as I'm concerned), so I'll suffer in FI's coach seat and pocket the $500 fare difference.
#1538
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: CLE
Programs: UA MileagePlus Premier Platinum
Posts: 1,360
You're right about the baggage fees; good catch.
Anyway, my example was strictly coach class to Amsterdam. Factoring in status, variations between airlines' metal, seat pitch, meal quality, service levels in better classes, etc., are valid but complicate any 4-airline comparison. For simply getting a tourist from CLE to EU in an admittedly E- seat, FI packs a wallop pricewise.
RNE, promising to write an FI Trip Report next May (in the proper forum).
P.S. I'm used to flying over the pond in business class, but SAGA ain't that (as far as I'm concerned), so I'll suffer in FI's coach seat and pocket the $500 fare difference.
Anyway, my example was strictly coach class to Amsterdam. Factoring in status, variations between airlines' metal, seat pitch, meal quality, service levels in better classes, etc., are valid but complicate any 4-airline comparison. For simply getting a tourist from CLE to EU in an admittedly E- seat, FI packs a wallop pricewise.
RNE, promising to write an FI Trip Report next May (in the proper forum).
P.S. I'm used to flying over the pond in business class, but SAGA ain't that (as far as I'm concerned), so I'll suffer in FI's coach seat and pocket the $500 fare difference.
https://goo.gl/flights/ttjJ
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#1540
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Cleveland, OH, USA, UA Silver, Hilton Gold
Posts: 772
Just noticed that the CLE website now lists the status of all of parking in the lower right corner of the page: http://www.clevelandairport.com
#1541
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: JZRO
Posts: 9,169
Just noticed that the CLE website now lists the status of all of parking in the lower right corner of the page: http://www.clevelandairport.com
#1544
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Cleveland, OH, USA, UA Silver, Hilton Gold
Posts: 772
It's the Franklin Castle on the West Side of Cleveland, part of the art work throughout the ticketing level called Type City Cleveland. It's actually quite an interesting series of artworks created by Cleveland Institute of Art students using different type fonts to create images of various points of interest in Cleveland.
http://www.clevelandairport.com/airp...city-cleveland
http://www.clevelandairport.com/airp...city-cleveland
#1545
Original Poster
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: CLE,OH
Programs: UA 1K 3MM, AA Plat, F9 Elite, the later two thanks to Jeff $, HHdia, Mgold, WynDia, Choicepl, IHGDia
Posts: 1,405
FI will be the new 737MAX effective May 16, 2018
http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/...routes-in-s18/
http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/...routes-in-s18/