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Jan 31, 2020, 8:23 am
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Delta suspending all flights to China until April 30, per a Reuters aviation reporter
https://twitter.com/davidshepardson/...63460622053384
https://twitter.com/davidshepardson/...63460622053384
https://news.delta.com/delta-tempora...s-china-flying
Jan 31, 2020, 10:07 am
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This situation just got alot more dynamic! It could take days before they come around, but I'd keep trying. If nothing else you might get a more helpful agent just by luck (that has worked for me before with AA).
Jan 31, 2020, 11:21 am
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With the suspension of all China flights, this would represent a number of planes suddenly with nothing to do. Will they be redeployed to TATL routes to allow for perhaps an accelerated refit of some of the 763/764 fleet, or be used as spares for ongoing TPAC operations?
Jan 31, 2020, 11:25 am
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With the suspension of all China flights, this would represent a number of planes suddenly with nothing to do. Will they be redeployed to TATL routes to allow for perhaps an accelerated refit of some of the 763/764 fleet, or be used as spares for ongoing TPAC operations?
Jan 31, 2020, 11:30 am
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With the suspension of all China flights, this would represent a number of planes suddenly with nothing to do. Will they be redeployed to TATL routes to allow for perhaps an accelerated refit of some of the 763/764 fleet, or be used as spares for ongoing TPAC operations?
I assume they'll accelerate any frames scheduled for C checks in the next few months (don't think any of the A359s flying to Asia have been around long enough for a D check) or they'll accelerate D checks of other frames in the fleet (767/A330) and use the A359s to cover the slack.
Jan 31, 2020, 11:31 am
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Hopefully some of these birds are put to work in NA or on other long hauls versus just parking for months on end. Be nice for the domestic road warriors to have the chance to enjoy some of these newer aircraft.
Jan 31, 2020, 11:39 am
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FYI for anyone else in the same boat, three separate agents stated some partners are "locking out open award space" given the uncertain situation. Even though the website showed open seats on Garuda or Korean flights they weren't able to force the award booking like they normally could.
Jan 31, 2020, 1:23 pm
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If the case, there certainly won't be any refit working getting done faster.
Hopefully some of these birds are put to work in NA or on other long hauls versus just parking for months on end. Be nice for the domestic road warriors to have the chance to enjoy some of these newer aircraft.
Hopefully some of these birds are put to work in NA or on other long hauls versus just parking for months on end. Be nice for the domestic road warriors to have the chance to enjoy some of these newer aircraft.
Though even if they do it, I assume it'll be the 3-4 hr flights and not the 500-mile hops I'm always on....I can certainly dream about having a flat bed to play with on ATL-STL or something.
Jan 31, 2020, 1:43 pm
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Unfortunately there's not a lot of travel around this period, until spring break starts. A few folks might travel for V day or for the long Presidents' Day holiday weekend, but they're unlikely to go very far.
With airline stocks diving today, DL might be more cost-focused than ever.
With airline stocks diving today, DL might be more cost-focused than ever.
Jan 31, 2020, 2:48 pm
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Delta suspending all flights to China until April 30, per a Reuters aviation reporter
https://twitter.com/davidshepardson/...63460622053384
https://twitter.com/davidshepardson/...63460622053384
They are already cancelling flights out of China prior to 2/6. Remaining flights are selling out.
No guarantees that other flights will not be cancelled, and they are not guaranteeing that they won't strand US citizens with Delta tickets in China for the next two months if they cancel additional flights.
Ended up having to replace an award ticket with purchased ticket, since only remaining options involved leaving China on a partner airline.
If you believing the cancellations prior to 2/6 are due to health and safety concerns, I'll send you a prospectus for a bridge purchase.
This has to be based upon a desire to minimize the cost of flying plans westward empty... at the risk of customer-be-damned.
Jan 31, 2020, 3:19 pm
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Just spent several hours trying to get Mrs. SHIB on an earlier return flight from China.
They are already cancelling flights out of China prior to 2/6. Remaining flights are selling out.
No guarantees that other flights will not be cancelled, and they are not guaranteeing that they won't strand US citizens with Delta tickets in China for the next two months if they cancel additional flights.
Ended up having to replace an award ticket with purchased ticket, since only remaining options involved leaving China on a partner airline.
If you believing the cancellations prior to 2/6 are due to health and safety concerns, I'll send you a prospectus for a bridge purchase.
This has to be based upon a desire to minimize the cost of flying plans westward empty... at the risk of customer-be-damned.
They are already cancelling flights out of China prior to 2/6. Remaining flights are selling out.
No guarantees that other flights will not be cancelled, and they are not guaranteeing that they won't strand US citizens with Delta tickets in China for the next two months if they cancel additional flights.
Ended up having to replace an award ticket with purchased ticket, since only remaining options involved leaving China on a partner airline.
If you believing the cancellations prior to 2/6 are due to health and safety concerns, I'll send you a prospectus for a bridge purchase.
This has to be based upon a desire to minimize the cost of flying plans westward empty... at the risk of customer-be-damned.
Delta has invested a lot in China and I'm sure they didn't make any of these cancelation decisions lightly.
Last edited by TTT; Jan 31, 2020 at 3:37 pm