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Bilt Rewards Mastercard WikiPost
(10/7/23 Original author (Dr Jabadski) note: As I posted here on 9/9/23 Considering Ive been salivating about simple no-cost points-etizing (like monetizing) my condo payments for about 25 years, I see Bilt as a game changer. I should have added almost a Holy Grail (a thing that is eagerly pursued or sought after). I successfully applied for a Bilt Mastercard 1 month ago thus Im far from an expert. Both before and after approval I posted multiple questions many times on this thread and several other FTers were highly gracious and informative. Thought a WikiPost might save some others a good deal of time, effort and aggravation, at least in not repeating my questions and searching for the answers. I certainly hope the experts will edit and update this WikiPost as necessary. Im also exercising Writer's Prerogative to officially coin the term pointsetize, like monetize convert into or express in the form of currency, to earn points from payments which otherwise would not earn points.)
Bilt Rewards Mastercard (Bilt MC) was first launched in mid-2021, in good part as a no fee way to charge and pointsetize rent payments. (Perhaps the only no fee way to pointsetize rent payments.) There are multiple reports of earning Bilt points for paying condominium monthly maintenance/common charges, sometimes even when the word condo or condominium is in the transaction description.
Bilt MC is a personal credit card, WF reports credit card information to the various credit bureaus and Bilt MC will count toward Chase 5/24.
This post and this post (both from 9/7/23) describe shutdown reports perhaps related to micro transactions, fluctuating rent payment amounts or multiple rent payments. This 10/11/23 post includes several references to Reddit user quotes about shutdowns and several Reddit Bilt quotes in response.
Linksto Bilt Rewards Terms of Use and Evolve Bank & Trust (Bilt Technologies) Customer Account Agreement. The Terms state Bilt may make available to you a Bilt Rent Account (Account), which is a transaction bank account that can be used by you solely to make rent payments. The Agreement states: For the avoidance of doubt, the Account is a transaction bank account that can be used by you solely to make rent payments. For the avoidance of doubt, this is not an account that you may use to deposit or withdraw funds for any other purposes outside of rent payments.
Bilt MC is a metal card weighing ~16 grams (comparisons: AmEx biz plat 18.5 gm, AmEx Gold 15 gm, Chase Sapphire Reserve 13 gm, traditional plastic card 5 gm).
Bilt Mastercard is issued and managed by Wells Fargo. Bilt Rewards is a separate website and app (which contains some credit card information but not as much as WF website).
Most reports are of instant approvals, Wells Fargo reconsideration phone number and experiences are not well documented. Reported initial Credit Limits vary $4,000 - $30,000 with higher limits more commonly reported. This post (9/1/23) describes one instance of a Something went wrong message upon application and the steps toward approval several days later.
In March/April 2025 Bilt initiated a new and different process for paying rent and HOA fees which requires preauthorization and/or "auto-pre-authorization" within 5 days of payment.Rent payments can be made in multiple different ways. Bilt will provide a (bank) routing number and account number. ACH rent payments can be sent (deposited) by Bilt or withdrawn by a managing company.
Bilt MC is shipped via trackable no-signature-required First Class mail in a small (4.5 x 6.5) white box with unique packaging inside as pictured at the bottom of this post. As of Feb 2024 no reports of expedited shipping.
Reports on this thread starting in late November 2023 indicate this "quasi-SUB" may be offered randomly and/or only to some people, selection criteria unknown. This post may be the only report of being offered the quasi-SUB prior to Bilt Mastercard application, based on existing Bilt Rewards account. Bilt's quasi-SUB" is offered via an email and a text message notification the same day as card receipt informing of 5x/5 days/max 50K (email quoted verbatim in this post). (Quasi* due to very short duration in contrast to many traditional SUBs of 3 month duration.) Please note this quasi-SUB maxs out at $12,500 (not $10,000) and tax payments will count. No reports yet of returns and their effect on quasi-SUB. (* quasi- a combining form meaning resembling, having some, but not all of the features of, used in the formation of compound words: quasi-definition; quasi-monopoly; quasi-official; quasi-scientific.)
Newly earned Bilt points will display as pending until 5 transactions per statement cycle. After 5 transactions, points will post and become available shortly after a transaction, before statement date. The Bilt Rewards website has a transaction counter which disappears upon reaching 5.
Bilt points for linking partner programs (100 points each) and for adding a credit card to Bilt Wallet (100 points each for first 3) post immediately. Original author received 500 point bonus for first rent payment.
Bilt Rewards points are transferable at 1:1 usually within a few minutes to multiple different airline and hotel programs.
Theres discussion of the long term viability of Bilt with some of those posts linked at the bottom of this post after BREAK.
Bilt Status Tiers: Blue - anyone enrolled in Bilt Rewards with under 25,000 points, Silver - 25,000 points earned, Gold - 50,000 points earned, Platinum - 100,000 points earned. Tier status earned at any point in a year remains active through the end of the following year. Earn Interest on Points (Silver, Gold, Platinum Tiers) is minimal, discussed on this post and this post.
Bilt Points Quest Trivia was discontinued as of July 2024.Bilt Points Quest Trivia on the first of each month offers up to 250 points for correctly answering, within 10 seconds, 6 (out of 15-20) questions. Must get first 5 questions (10, 20, 30, 40, 50 points) correct to see the 6th bonus 100 point question. Theres often a Reddit thread with the Q & A. (Point Quest - October 2023 Answers) The lower half of this post has comments from a highly experienced test taker regarding memory, recall and studying for Points Quest Trivia.
Bilt Rent Free may also have been discontinued in 2024 or 2025.Bilt also has various RentFree games, available a few days prior to and/or on the 1st of the month, different people get different games. Could be a Family Feud style question with enough time to Google answers or a Where's Wally? (Bilt Brick) type of game or something else. Successful completion enters to be one of 3 people for whom Bilt pays their monthly rent (up to $2500).
List of Bilts Rent Day promotions going back to October 2022 at the bottom of the page here: DEALSPOINTS.
June 2024: Bottom of this post describes one persons experience paying a significant assessment (and earning points) with Bilt MC, at this time (only 3 weeks later) no report of clawback or shutdown (based on using Bilt to pay rent more than once a month and/or for something other than rent/condo fees).
June 2024: Bottom of this post contains Bilt quotes regarding Bilt BiltProtect.
June 2024: Important post (and link) stating that WF is losing money every month on Bilt.
(10/7/23 Original author (Dr Jabadski) note: As I posted here on 9/9/23 Considering Ive been salivating about simple no-cost points-etizing (like monetizing) my condo payments for about 25 years, I see Bilt as a game changer. I should have added almost a Holy Grail (a thing that is eagerly pursued or sought after). I successfully applied for a Bilt Mastercard 1 month ago thus Im far from an expert. Both before and after approval I posted multiple questions many times on this thread and several other FTers were highly gracious and informative. Thought a WikiPost might save some others a good deal of time, effort and aggravation, at least in not repeating my questions and searching for the answers. I certainly hope the experts will edit and update this WikiPost as necessary. Im also exercising Writer's Prerogative to officially coin the term pointsetize, like monetize convert into or express in the form of currency, to earn points from payments which otherwise would not earn points.)
Bilt Rewards Mastercard (Bilt MC) was first launched in mid-2021, in good part as a no fee way to charge and pointsetize rent payments. (Perhaps the only no fee way to pointsetize rent payments.) There are multiple reports of earning Bilt points for paying condominium monthly maintenance/common charges, sometimes even when the word condo or condominium is in the transaction description.
Bilt MC is a personal credit card, WF reports credit card information to the various credit bureaus and Bilt MC will count toward Chase 5/24.
This post and this post (both from 9/7/23) describe shutdown reports perhaps related to micro transactions, fluctuating rent payment amounts or multiple rent payments. This 10/11/23 post includes several references to Reddit user quotes about shutdowns and several Reddit Bilt quotes in response.
Links
Bilt MC is a metal card weighing ~16 grams (comparisons: AmEx biz plat 18.5 gm, AmEx Gold 15 gm, Chase Sapphire Reserve 13 gm, traditional plastic card 5 gm).
Bilt Mastercard is issued and managed by Wells Fargo. Bilt Rewards is a separate website and app (which contains some credit card information but not as much as WF website).
Most reports are of instant approvals, Wells Fargo reconsideration phone number and experiences are not well documented. Reported initial Credit Limits vary $4,000 - $30,000 with higher limits more commonly reported. This post (9/1/23) describes one instance of a Something went wrong message upon application and the steps toward approval several days later.
In March/April 2025 Bilt initiated a new and different process for paying rent and HOA fees which requires preauthorization and/or "auto-pre-authorization" within 5 days of payment.
Bilt MC is shipped via trackable no-signature-required First Class mail in a small (4.5 x 6.5) white box with unique packaging inside as pictured at the bottom of this post. As of Feb 2024 no reports of expedited shipping.
Reports on this thread starting in late November 2023 indicate this "quasi-SUB" may be offered randomly and/or only to some people, selection criteria unknown. This post may be the only report of being offered the quasi-SUB prior to Bilt Mastercard application, based on existing Bilt Rewards account. Bilt's quasi-SUB" is offered via an email and a text message notification the same day as card receipt informing of 5x/5 days/max 50K (email quoted verbatim in this post). (Quasi* due to very short duration in contrast to many traditional SUBs of 3 month duration.) Please note this quasi-SUB maxs out at $12,500 (not $10,000) and tax payments will count. No reports yet of returns and their effect on quasi-SUB. (* quasi- a combining form meaning resembling, having some, but not all of the features of, used in the formation of compound words: quasi-definition; quasi-monopoly; quasi-official; quasi-scientific.)
Newly earned Bilt points will display as pending until 5 transactions per statement cycle. After 5 transactions, points will post and become available shortly after a transaction, before statement date. The Bilt Rewards website has a transaction counter which disappears upon reaching 5.
Bilt points for linking partner programs (100 points each) and for adding a credit card to Bilt Wallet (100 points each for first 3) post immediately. Original author received 500 point bonus for first rent payment.
Bilt Rewards points are transferable at 1:1 usually within a few minutes to multiple different airline and hotel programs.
Theres discussion of the long term viability of Bilt with some of those posts linked at the bottom of this post after BREAK.
Bilt Status Tiers: Blue - anyone enrolled in Bilt Rewards with under 25,000 points, Silver - 25,000 points earned, Gold - 50,000 points earned, Platinum - 100,000 points earned. Tier status earned at any point in a year remains active through the end of the following year. Earn Interest on Points (Silver, Gold, Platinum Tiers) is minimal, discussed on this post and this post.
Bilt Points Quest Trivia was discontinued as of July 2024.
Bilt Rent Free may also have been discontinued in 2024 or 2025.
List of Bilts Rent Day promotions going back to October 2022 at the bottom of the page here: DEALSPOINTS.
June 2024: Bottom of this post describes one persons experience paying a significant assessment (and earning points) with Bilt MC, at this time (only 3 weeks later) no report of clawback or shutdown (based on using Bilt to pay rent more than once a month and/or for something other than rent/condo fees).
June 2024: Bottom of this post contains Bilt quotes regarding Bilt BiltProtect.
June 2024: Important post (and link) stating that WF is losing money every month on Bilt.
Bilt Mastercard
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250 easy points (Reddit):
Feel good chemicals pumped after workout - endorphins
Doping - Human Growth Hormone
Rosie Ruiz - Boston marathon
Default daily step goal in Fitbit - 10,000
80s Aerobics videos - Jane Fonda
HIIT - High Intensity Interval Training
Event not Olympic Pentathlon- Cycling
End of yoga pose: savasana
Where did Zumba originate: Columbia
Which muscle is the largest & strongest? Gluteus Maximus
Exact distance of marathon race - 26.2 miles
Fad workout equipment that went viral - Shake Weight
Racing lanes in Olympic swimming pool - 8
80s Aerobics videos model - Jane Fonda
Rosie Ruiz caught cheating to break the record of this race. - Boston Marathon
BONUS - New addition to Bilt's Neighborhood fitness studio with ballet inspired name - Pure Barre
Feel good chemicals pumped after workout - endorphins
Doping - Human Growth Hormone
Rosie Ruiz - Boston marathon
Default daily step goal in Fitbit - 10,000
80s Aerobics videos - Jane Fonda
HIIT - High Intensity Interval Training
Event not Olympic Pentathlon- Cycling
End of yoga pose: savasana
Where did Zumba originate: Columbia
Which muscle is the largest & strongest? Gluteus Maximus
Exact distance of marathon race - 26.2 miles
Fad workout equipment that went viral - Shake Weight
Racing lanes in Olympic swimming pool - 8
80s Aerobics videos model - Jane Fonda
Rosie Ruiz caught cheating to break the record of this race. - Boston Marathon
BONUS - New addition to Bilt's Neighborhood fitness studio with ballet inspired name - Pure Barre
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How did everyone do for rentfree? I got 10k and placed 42'000 LOL not even close.
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Are those Rent Free game mock/moot points? (Or as we used to say about all foreign currencies during Nimitz Med Deployment 1987, before the Euro and when it seemed like we had to deal with a different currency every 2-3 weeks, “bongo bucks”
. I probably shouldn’t complain, at least we got some liberty ports
.)
I did even worse and of course had to watch a 3 minute video before Bilt would let me see my results
.
Anyone get any actual Bilt Rewards points out of it?
. I probably shouldn’t complain, at least we got some liberty ports I did even worse and of course had to watch a 3 minute video before Bilt would let me see my results
Anyone get any actual Bilt Rewards points out of it?
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Are those Rent Free game mock/moot points? (Or as we used to say about all foreign currencies during Nimitz Med Deployment 1987, before the Euro and when it seemed like we had to deal with a different currency every 2-3 weeks, bongo bucks. I probably shouldnt complain, at least we got some liberty ports.)
I did even worse and of course had to watch a 3 minute video before Bilt would let me see my results.
Anyone get any actual Bilt Rewards points out of it?
I did even worse and of course had to watch a 3 minute video before Bilt would let me see my results.
Anyone get any actual Bilt Rewards points out of it?
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11 thumbs down. (Why 11? Because 10 is too few and 12 is too many
.)(Thumbs down not to you, thank you for explaining to you, thumbs down to Bilt for the deliberately deceitful manner in which they designed and displayed this game, having us think for a moment that we’d get some actual Bilt rewards points.)
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11 thumbs down. (Why 11? Because 10 is too few and 12 is too many
.)(Thumbs down not to you, thank you for explaining to you, thumbs down to Bilt for the deliberately deceitful manner in which they designed and displayed this game, having us think for a moment that wed get some actual Bilt rewards points.)
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Did I miss something or is there no rent day promo (transfer bonus etc.) this time? Last year on 4/1 was the Hyatt fast track promo that got me started with Bilt.
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Relatively underwhelming, for sure.
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Technically and literally you are correct, just like Geico “could” save you 15% (but could also cost you twice as much) and Bitcoin has real value (not). But in the spirit of loyalty programs it was relatively deceptive.
Correct, just a bunch of fitness related promos; free workouts, use Bilt points for products. (Possibly more cost cutting by offering promos which probably appeal to far fewer people and probably cost Bilt much less?)
Correct, just a bunch of fitness related promos; free workouts, use Bilt points for products. (Possibly more cost cutting by offering promos which probably appeal to far fewer people and probably cost Bilt much less?)
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Technically and literally you are correct, just like Geico could save you 15% (but could also cost you twice as much) and Bitcoin has real value (not). But in the spirit of loyalty programs it was relatively deceptive.
Correct, just a bunch of fitness related promos; free workouts, use Bilt points for products. (Possibly more cost cutting by offering promos which probably appeal to far fewer people and probably cost Bilt much less?)
Correct, just a bunch of fitness related promos; free workouts, use Bilt points for products. (Possibly more cost cutting by offering promos which probably appeal to far fewer people and probably cost Bilt much less?)
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Technically and literally you are correct, just like Geico “could” save you 15% (but could also cost you twice as much) and Bitcoin has real value (not). But in the spirit of loyalty programs it was relatively deceptive.
Correct, just a bunch of fitness related promos; free workouts, use Bilt points for products. (Possibly more cost cutting by offering promos which probably appeal to far fewer people and probably cost Bilt much less?)
Correct, just a bunch of fitness related promos; free workouts, use Bilt points for products. (Possibly more cost cutting by offering promos which probably appeal to far fewer people and probably cost Bilt much less?)
I have met people who think that if they have 5,000 frequent flyer miles, that they can use them for a 5,000 mile flight . . . I see the rationale in hindsight, but it's just not logical.
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To me, that’s a pretty good definition of deceit and/or “bait and switch”. Bilt could just as easily have stated each person’s rank without disclosing the number of bongo points. My relative rank was significant for determining free rent or Bilt points, my number of bongo points was of less significance than the amount of lint in my navel (belly button)
.
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Card Declined!
Made a couple of large charges today, LIttle of $6K and then about $4300. Relatively new card holder and thought it was time to take care of the 2x Rent day for non-bonused charges. First charge fine, second charge declined. Received a text about both if I recognized the charges, texted Y. Still declined on second charge again, called and talked to fraud department, still declined. Waited a few hours, tried again, declined, called again, still not happening. Never experienced such a ridiculous experience. Not uncommon on large charges to my Citi or chase cards to have some issues but for this amount to have it never be possible to charge the second amount.....insane. Was able to charge a small $75 charge and then a $2000 charge later but clearly because the large second charge in the AM was initially declined it was never going to happen again. Not happy!
$30K CL so nowhere near that. Was the first time I'd charged anywhere near $10K plus but not resolvable...?
$30K CL so nowhere near that. Was the first time I'd charged anywhere near $10K plus but not resolvable...?



