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(10/7/23 Original author (Dr Jabadski) note: As I posted here on 9/9/23 “Considering I’ve been salivating about simple no-cost points-etizing (like monetizing) my condo payments for about 25 years, I see Bilt as a game changer.” I should have added “almost a Holy Grail” (a thing that is eagerly pursued or sought after). I successfully applied for a Bilt Mastercard 1 month ago thus I’m far from an expert. Both before and after approval I posted multiple questions many times on this thread and several other FTers were highly gracious and informative. Thought a WikiPost might save some others a good deal of time, effort and aggravation, at least in not repeating my questions and searching for the answers. I certainly hope the experts will edit and update this WikiPost as necessary. I’m also exercising Writer's Prerogative to officially coin the term “pointsetize”, like monetize “convert into or express in the form of currency”, to earn points from payments which otherwise would not earn points.)

Bilt Rewards Mastercard (Bilt MC) was first launched in mid-2021, in good part as a no fee way to charge and pointsetize rent payments. (Perhaps the only no fee way to pointsetize rent payments.) There are multiple reports of earning Bilt points for paying condominium monthly maintenance/common charges, sometimes even when the word “condo” or “condominium” is in the transaction description.

Bilt MC is a personal credit card, WF reports credit card information to the various credit bureaus and Bilt MC will count toward Chase 5/24.

This post and this post (both from 9/7/23) describe shutdown reports perhaps related to “micro transactions”, fluctuating rent payment amounts or multiple rent payments. This 10/11/23 post includes several references to Reddit user quotes about shutdowns and several Reddit Bilt quotes in response.

Links to Bilt Rewards Terms of Use and Evolve Bank & Trust (Bilt Technologies) Customer Account Agreement. The Terms state “Bilt may make available to you a Bilt Rent Account (“Account”), which is a transaction bank account that can be used by you solely to make rent payments.” The Agreement states: “For the avoidance of doubt, the Account is a transaction bank account that can be used by you solely to make rent payments. For the avoidance of doubt, this is not an account that you may use to deposit or withdraw funds for any other purposes outside of rent payments.”

Bilt MC is a metal card weighing ~16 grams (comparisons: AmEx biz plat 18.5 gm, AmEx Gold 15 gm, Chase Sapphire Reserve 13 gm, traditional plastic card 5 gm).

Bilt Mastercard is issued and managed by Wells Fargo. Bilt Rewards is a separate website and app (which contains some credit card information but not as much as WF website).

Most reports are of instant approvals, Wells Fargo reconsideration phone number and experiences are not well documented. Reported initial Credit Limits vary $4,000 - $30,000 with higher limits more commonly reported. This post (9/1/23) describes one instance of a “Something went wrong” message upon application and the steps toward approval several days later.

In March/April 2025 Bilt initiated a new and different process for paying rent and HOA fees which requires “preauthorization” and/or "auto-pre-authorization" within 5 days of payment. Rent payments can be made in multiple different ways. Bilt will provide a (bank) routing number and account number. ACH rent payments can be sent (deposited) by Bilt or withdrawn by a managing company.

Bilt MC is shipped via trackable no-signature-required First Class mail in a small (4.5” x 6.5”) white box with unique packaging inside as pictured at the bottom of this post. As of Feb 2024 no reports of expedited shipping.

Reports on this thread starting in late November 2023 indicate this "quasi-SUB" may be offered randomly and/or only to some people, selection criteria unknown. This post may be the only report of being offered the quasi-SUB prior to Bilt Mastercard application, based on existing Bilt Rewards account. Bilt's “quasi-SUB" is offered via an email and a text message notification the same day as card receipt informing of 5x/5 days/max 50K (email quoted verbatim in this post). (Quasi* due to very short duration in contrast to many traditional SUBs of 3 month duration.) Please note this quasi-SUB maxs out at $12,500 (not $10,000) and tax payments will count. No reports yet of returns and their effect on quasi-SUB. (* “quasi-“ a combining form meaning “resembling,” “having some, but not all of the features of,” used in the formation of compound words: quasi-definition; quasi-monopoly; quasi-official; quasi-scientific.)

Newly earned Bilt points will display as “pending” until 5 transactions per statement cycle. After 5 transactions, points will post and become available shortly after a transaction, before statement date. The Bilt Rewards website has a “transaction counter” which disappears upon reaching 5.

Bilt points for linking partner programs (100 points each) and for adding a credit card to Bilt Wallet (100 points each for first 3) post immediately. Original author received 500 point bonus for first rent payment.

Bilt Rewards points are transferable at 1:1 usually within a few minutes to multiple different airline and hotel programs.

There’s discussion of the long term viability of Bilt with some of those posts linked at the bottom of this post after “BREAK”.

Bilt Status Tiers: Blue - anyone enrolled in Bilt Rewards with under 25,000 points, Silver - 25,000 points earned, Gold - 50,000 points earned, Platinum - 100,000 points earned. “Tier status earned at any point in a year remains active through the end of the following year.” “Earn Interest on Points” (Silver, Gold, Platinum Tiers) is minimal, discussed on this post and this post.

Bilt Points Quest Trivia was discontinued as of July 2024. Bilt Points Quest Trivia on the first of each month offers up to 250 points for correctly answering, within 10 seconds, 6 (out of 15-20) questions. Must get first 5 questions (10, 20, 30, 40, 50 points) correct to see the 6th “bonus” 100 point question. There’s often a Reddit thread with the Q & A. (Point Quest - October 2023 Answers) The lower half of this post has comments from a highly experienced “test taker” regarding memory, recall and “studying” for Points Quest Trivia.

Bilt Rent Free may also have been discontinued in 2024 or 2025. Bilt also has various “RentFree” games, available a few days prior to and/or on the 1st of the month, different people get different games. Could be a Family Feud style question with enough time to Google answers or a “Where's Wally?” (Bilt Brick) type of game or something else. Successful completion enters to be one of 3 people for whom Bilt pays their monthly rent (up to $2500).

List of Bilt’s Rent Day promotions going back to October 2022 at the bottom of the page here: DEALSPOINTS.

June 2024: Bottom of this post describes one person’s experience paying a significant assessment (and earning points) with Bilt MC, at this time (only 3 weeks later) no report of clawback or shutdown (based on using Bilt to pay rent more than once a month and/or for something other than rent/condo fees).

June 2024: Bottom of this post contains Bilt quotes regarding Bilt BiltProtect.

June 2024: Important post (and link) stating that WF is losing money every month on Bilt.
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Old Mar 25, 2024 | 6:03 am
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Originally Posted by wiivile
what? with most cards you dont get the points until the monthly statement closes. bilt is an outlier.
Originally Posted by Smiley90
Id consider "within 7 days of purchase" fairly reliable.
I’ve had this issue from time to time with my Bilt card, and my experience has been that if the points don’t post shortly after purchase, as is typical, they won’t post at all.

With Bilt, as soon as you make a purchase, the purchase will show as pending in the Bilt app. Within a few business days, the points will either post (if you’ve already made five transactions), or the points will show as pending, once five transactions have been made.

When my points haven’t posted, what happens is that a few days after the purchase first shows up as pending, the line item just disappears completely.
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Originally Posted by Smiley90
Id consider "within 7 days of purchase" fairly reliable.
If they actually posted, yes. But they're not going to if it's been this long.

Originally Posted by dw
I’ve had this issue from time to time with my Bilt card, and my experience has been that if the points don’t post shortly after purchase, as is typical, they won’t post at all.

With Bilt, as soon as you make a purchase, the purchase will show as pending in the Bilt app. Within a few business days, the points will either post (if you’ve already made five transactions), or the points will show as pending, once five transactions have been made.

When my points haven’t posted, what happens is that a few days after the purchase first shows up as pending, the line item just disappears completely.
This mirrors my experience. And then you have to spend time and energy chasing Bilt for your points.

I've never had this happen with any other card, and now it's happend twice in around 6 months. I've had instances of not getting the right amount of points, but never not getting any points.
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Old Mar 25, 2024 | 11:54 pm
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I also have this problem, 4 charges with no points. I was told:

"We haven't received word yet, but I can confirm this is impacting transactios that occurred around March 20th (For you, these were March 18th and 19th). Once the issue has been resolved, your points will be added."

Second time this has happened, first resolution was speedy and effortless with the points posting within a day of filing a complaint. This case appears to be different. If this becomes a regular occurrence, it will be difficult to justify keeping the card.
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Old Mar 26, 2024 | 6:10 am
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Originally Posted by moe8555
I also have this problem, 4 charges with no points. I was told:

"We haven't received word yet, but I can confirm this is impacting transactios that occurred around March 20th (For you, these were March 18th and 19th). Once the issue has been resolved, your points will be added."

Second time this has happened, first resolution was speedy and effortless with the points posting within a day of filing a complaint. This case appears to be different. If this becomes a regular occurrence, it will be difficult to justify keeping the card.
Seems this is a widespread glitch for everyone; which is actually the second big glitch this month as earlier there was a glitch with rent points properly posting for March
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Originally Posted by moe8555
I also have this problem, 4 charges with no points. I was told:

"We haven't received word yet, but I can confirm this is impacting transactios that occurred around March 20th (For you, these were March 18th and 19th). Once the issue has been resolved, your points will be added."

Second time this has happened, first resolution was speedy and effortless with the points posting within a day of filing a complaint. This case appears to be different. If this becomes a regular occurrence, it will be difficult to justify keeping the card.
My two transactions were March 20 & 22.
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Originally Posted by moe8555
I also have this problem, 4 charges with no points. I was told:

"We haven't received word yet, but I can confirm this is impacting transactios that occurred around March 20th (For you, these were March 18th and 19th). Once the issue has been resolved, your points will be added."

Second time this has happened, first resolution was speedy and effortless with the points posting within a day of filing a complaint. This case appears to be different. If this becomes a regular occurrence, it will be difficult to justify keeping the card.
The card is worth it to me even if the only points I get from it are my HOA fees in points. It's a free card, after all.
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Old Mar 26, 2024 | 9:25 pm
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The card is worth it to me even if the only points I get from it are my HOA fees in points. It's a free card, after all.
Well written, violently agree. Even though I’m a Doubting Thomas regarding Bilt’s long term viability, it doesn’t cost a penny to charge my monthly HOA fee and 4 other small charges, usually 2 grocery store self-checkouts divided to 2 charges each, for Bilt to pointsetize (see Wikipost first paragraph original author’s note last sentence) at no cost those HOA fees. Win win AFAICT. Only downside other than a bit of my time is that Bilt counts toward Chase 5/24.


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Originally Posted by LETTERBOY
If they actually posted, yes. But they're not going to if it's been this long.
To my surprise, the first transaction (Subway, March 20) posted this evening. No change to the second one yet. Even if it does end up posting, this has left a very bitter taste in my mouth.
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Two out of four missing transactions have posted for me. I sent a follow-up email to support to make sure the missing charges haven't been overlooked.
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Bilt rent days

Considering maximizing spending since I recently got the card. While I will try to put some restaurant charges that day(does door dash count etc) it will mostly be non bonused spend which I’ve confirmed gets 2x. It says max 10k bonus points on the 1st of the month. So does that mean spending $10k ordinarily at 1x points would earn 20k points and that’s the max?
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To my surprise, the first transaction (Subway, March 20) posted this evening. No change to the second one yet. Even if it does end up posting, this has left a very bitter taste in my mouth.
Second transaction posted. Still extremely annoyed at this whole thing, though, My feelings about Bilt are not nearly as good as they were a week and a half ago.
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Originally Posted by Jonesdds
Considering maximizing spending since I recently got the card. While I will try to put some restaurant charges that day(does door dash count etc) it will mostly be non bonused spend which I’ve confirmed gets 2x. It says max 10k bonus points on the 1st of the month. So does that mean spending $10k ordinarily at 1x points would earn 20k points and that’s the max?
I think thats the correct number of "bonus" points you would earn. You could spend more than 10K on rent day and get the 1X points for them as well as the max 10K bonus
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Qs about the Signup Spend Bonus

So I received the card and the offer today. Despite (or because of) a +800 credit score and lots of other cards with limits up to $30K, they assigned me a low credit limit of $10,000. So I won't be able to maximize unless I pay back the $10K immediately and they reset my limit. Others have reported they don't do that very fast. Any other DPs? And...
  • Do the 5 days in which you're able to generate the signup offer bonus start the day after you receive the card, or the day of (which is actually a partial day)?
  • Do you get additional bonus points for signup offer spending on Rent Day?
Thanks...
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Originally Posted by Explore
So I received the card and the offer today. Despite (or because of) a +800 credit score and lots of other cards with limits up to $30K, they assigned me a low credit limit of $10,000. So I won't be able to maximize unless I pay back the $10K immediately and they reset my limit. Others have reported they don't do that very fast. Any other DPs? And...
  • Do the 5 days in which you're able to generate the signup offer bonus start the day after you receive the card, or the day of (which is actually a partial day)?
  • Do you get additional bonus points for signup offer spending on Rent Day?
Thanks...
If you transfer from a Wells Fargo deposit account, I'm pretty sure that frees up the credit fastest.

Pretty sure the five days (if you get it) starts the day you receive the card.

No additional points for rent day.
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Old Mar 30, 2024 | 11:03 am
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For me the 5 days started the day after I received the card so it was really 6 days.
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