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Anglo Large Clawed Otter Sep 30, 2008 10:16 am


Originally Posted by sdm1130 (Post 10447440)
I am actually more worried about not going with a RTW (still on the fence on that) as long-haul availability up front seems to be very difficult to find.

If you search far enough out, there's generally something available to somewhere. I didn't approach honeymoon planning by planning "I must visit X or Y destination." I looked at what was out there, then decided which options I liked best.

ConciergeMike Sep 30, 2008 10:16 am


Originally Posted by belynch (Post 10447384)
With that attitude, and pride in their professionalism - uhm - ... yeah.

An especially ballsy reply for a press release. Issuing something that's crud is a great way to get journalists on your bad side. Deliver them a pile of non-AP formatted garbage.

And if you're publicly held, great way to lose the confidence of your investors too.

The casinos are especially good at this...I can't even count how many times I've seen giveaway/promotional announcements with misplaced apostrophes or the wrong homonym choice. "His & Her's" (:rolleyes:) is my favorite. And I love the people who think that an apostrophe must be in almost any word that ends in s. Caesar's is something that is owned by a guy named Caesar. Caesars is the casino.

My other pet peeve is the use of quotation marks solely to set something off. Duh. My local deli had a huge sign over one of the slicers: CHEESE SLICER "ONLY".

More proof that society is circling the drain, boys and girls.

sdm1130 Sep 30, 2008 10:20 am


Originally Posted by ConciergeMike (Post 10447455)
The casinos are especially good at this...I can't even count how many times I've seen giveaway/promotional announcements with misplaced apostrophes or the wrong homonym choice. "His & Her's" (:rolleyes:) is my favorite.

For some reason, this reminded me of how irritated I get when an announcement for a giveaway has IPOD, iPOD, Ipod or I-Pod on it. Come on people - it's iPod. Also, it's a Mac and not a MAC. Ugh...

sdm1130 Sep 30, 2008 10:22 am


Originally Posted by Anglo Large Clawed Otter (Post 10447451)
If you search far enough out, there's generally something available to somewhere. I didn't approach honeymoon planning by planning "I must visit X or Y destination." I looked at what was out there, then decided which options I liked best.

That's a good way to look at it. I've been set on Thailand for quite some time but I could certainly be open minded about other places as well.

I'm getting way ahead of myself. I still need to work on the whole engagement thing... :p

ConciergeMike Sep 30, 2008 10:25 am


Originally Posted by Anglo Large Clawed Otter (Post 10447451)
If you search far enough out, there's generally something available to somewhere. I didn't approach honeymoon planning by planning "I must visit X or Y destination." I looked at what was out there, then decided which options I liked best.

If I was going to RTW, I would look for destinations. In my playing with the *A tool recently, I have found that TPAC-first is almost definitely the way to go, but that could be YMMV as I have numerous wishes to see Asian cities. I also noticed that if done TATL first, it's theoretically possible to have a valid RTW itinerary all on SQ.

fozz Sep 30, 2008 10:34 am


Originally Posted by ConciergeMike (Post 10447455)
More proof that society is circling the drain, boys and girls.

Having just watched the movie Idiocracy and then taking a step back, i'm realizing that statement is so true.

On a similar note, one of the sponsors for the film festival this weekend was Smartwater. Their big claim to fame is that they have electrolytes. My friend had watched the movie with me, so all weekend, every time there was a bottle of Smartwater, she would say "It has electrolytes. It's what plants crave."

rolov Sep 30, 2008 10:34 am


Originally Posted by ConciergeMike (Post 10447507)
If I was going to RTW, I would look for destinations. In my playing with the *A tool recently, I have found that TPAC-first is almost definitely the way to go, but that could be YMMV as I have numerous wishes to see Asian cities. I also noticed that if done TATL first, it's theoretically possible to have a valid RTW itinerary all on SQ.

SQ's RTW are a bit tricky as you are not allowed to pass thru SIN more than once. Therefore Australia is out of the question.
You also would not be able to return to the east coast.
SQ 21/22 is not allowed on RTW , so EWR is out , meaning you would need to take the JFK-FRA-SIN tatl and then have to end your RTW in SFO or LAX. via HKG or NRT.

Anglo Large Clawed Otter Sep 30, 2008 10:36 am


Originally Posted by sdm1130 (Post 10447489)
That's a good way to look at it. I've been set on Thailand for quite some time but I could certainly be open minded about other places as well.

I'm getting way ahead of myself. I still need to work on the whole engagement thing... :p

Don't forget that you can grab an IL-96-300 on BKK-SVO!

ConciergeMike Sep 30, 2008 10:37 am


Originally Posted by sdm1130 (Post 10447474)
For some reason, this reminded me of how irritated I get when an announcement for a giveaway has IPOD, iPOD, Ipod or I-Pod on it. Come on people - it's iPod. Also, it's a Mac and not a MAC. Ugh...

I agree but for something that can get overlooked: at least in casino marketing, not unlike in email/message boards, CAPS = ATTENTION. They think that caps draw attention, and I'm not sure that I disagree, especially when it's on a billboard. I've had people walk up to me and cite the contents of two separate billboards as if they had seen one ad. At least around here, the rule of the day is to aim at the lowest common denominator.

Also, in a market (mine) where intelligence is low and fear is high, messing with something by capping or incorrectly hyphenating it could be seen by some as a way to avoid infringement. By no means do I agree with this, but the policy around here tends to run toward not hiring those that are smart enough to research such things, because that research may cost the company more than the bare minimum necessary and also may lead to motivated people seeking more money. What, me bitter? Hell, no. :D (I need to get out of ACY real bad, and my last round of resume sendings yielded nothing.)

ConciergeMike Sep 30, 2008 10:48 am


Originally Posted by rolov (Post 10447568)
SQ's RTW are a bit tricky as you are not allowed to pass thru SIN more than once. Therefore Australia is out of the question.
You also would not be able to return to the east coast.
SQ 21/22 is not allowed on RTW , so EWR is out , meaning you would need to take the JFK-FRA-SIN tatl and then have to end your RTW in SFO or LAX. via HKG or NRT.

That's exactly what I put together, and the odd part is that the *A tool let me connect thru SIN. JFK-FRA-SIN-SYD-(SIN)-HKG-NRT-LAX...all SQ except for the HKG-NRT leg on NH. I have 4 days in SIN and a connection in SIN 5 days later open in the tool right now. Not saying you're wrong, but the RTW tool does permit it. As far as not coming back to the East Coast, you couldn't do it on SQ, but 6 of my 7 coupons are SQ.

rolov Sep 30, 2008 11:21 am


Originally Posted by ConciergeMike (Post 10447635)
That's exactly what I put together, and the odd part is that the *A tool let me connect thru SIN. JFK-FRA-SIN-SYD-(SIN)-HKG-NRT-LAX...all SQ except for the HKG-NRT leg on NH. I have 4 days in SIN and a connection in SIN 5 days later open in the tool right now. Not saying you're wrong, but the RTW tool does permit it. As far as not coming back to the East Coast, you couldn't do it on SQ, but 6 of my 7 coupons are SQ.

Its probably because the *A tool books it into the CCASTAR fares , the SQ only RTW (CEZSQ) is cheaper but has tighter restrictions. The *A tool is probably giving you the star fares that may allow backtracking.

Anglo Large Clawed Otter Sep 30, 2008 12:41 pm

Any guesses as to if/when we'll see XMas/New Year's sale fares this year? $1,000+ for TATL in the depths of winter is absolutely ridiculous.

sbm12 Sep 30, 2008 1:54 pm


Originally Posted by monitor (Post 10445234)
Simple answer is to schedule your wedding on the day before there is award availability to where you would lke to go on your honeymoon. ;)

Or just schedule the honeymoon when you can find availability. Also gives you time to calm down from the chaos of the wedding without "wasting" honeymoon time on that. We took 5 weeks between the wedding and honeymoon and I was very happy with that.

Originally Posted by Anglo Large Clawed Otter (Post 10447217)
I had little difficulty snagging the RTW I wanted. I booked ~310 days out, and used KVS to search for availability in the weeks beforehand.

I booked to Asia for travel in August in Jan/Feb and had very little trouble on ST. I used co.com to find my way through most of it and then was pretty flexible knowing that in SE Asia I'd have a surface segment. Something like "get me 2 seats up front from SIN, HKG or BKK to AMS, CDG, MXP or FCO on one of these 4 consecutive days." No problems at all. :)

sbm12 Sep 30, 2008 1:59 pm


Originally Posted by COFan (Post 10447355)
just when I think I have hit bottom on stupidity, someone always throws me a shovel.

"Is punctuation really that important, or even needed anymore we all know what I meant?" a reply made to me after I checked a press release

can you hear that sound? That is me banging my head against a wall

Hmmm...that would be the sound of someone flying through the nearest window I could put them through. You are a more patient man than I.

ConciergeMike Sep 30, 2008 2:06 pm


Originally Posted by sbm12 (Post 10448509)
Or just schedule the honeymoon when you can find availability. Also gives you time to calm down from the chaos of the wedding without "wasting" honeymoon time on that. We took 5 weeks between the wedding and honeymoon and I was very happy with that.

Now I don't feel so weird for trying to schedule a wedding around a particular pool of cruise departure dates. We would at most have about 72 hours between wedding and honeymoon...rest day, flying day, start the cruise.


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