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bdjohns1 Aug 4, 2009 9:27 am


Originally Posted by Steph3n (Post 12172768)
I need to visit ABE to compare it to GRK, one of the nicest small airports I have seen :D

Fair trade - I haven't been to GRK. To be fair, I haven't spent much time in Texas, period. My wife, daughter, and I spent a week between Teh Festering Pit and Galveston this spring, and that was my first time in TX since I was a kid.


Originally Posted by sdm1130 (Post 12172780)
Forget IAH-DME, ABE-EWR is where it's at!

Can I get an FM line if I drove ABE-EWR in a miles-earning rental car? :D

Mackieman Aug 4, 2009 9:30 am


Originally Posted by ConciergeMike (Post 12172812)
You show me a jet breaking the sound barrier over American soil, I show you a pilot whose file gets a little thicker upon landing. :rolleyes:

Yeah, but he lives up near Fort Hood.

sdm1130 Aug 4, 2009 9:31 am


Originally Posted by bdjohns1 (Post 12172826)
Can I get an FM line if I drove ABE-EWR in a miles-earning rental car? :D

You can put that in Car Rental Memory but you need an actual flight number for FM. :)

kingalien Aug 4, 2009 9:31 am

2 free tacos at Jack-in-the-Box

Hartmann Aug 4, 2009 9:33 am


Originally Posted by Mackieman (Post 12172846)
Yeah, but he lives up near Fort Hood.

Does not matter. They are still not supposed to break the barrier over any populated areas (including remotely populated) overseas and never over U.S. soil.

We had a NASA training mission break it on accident here once and I thought the city of Pasadena was going to burn down the Johnson Space Center.

Oh, forgot to mention, there are a few spots of controlled airspace where breaking the barrier is allowed in the U.S, including the High Altitude Supersonic Corridor in southern California. I believe one exists over Kansas and one over Montana as well. I do not know of one over Texas.

ConciergeMike Aug 4, 2009 9:36 am


Originally Posted by Hartmann (Post 12172870)
Does not matter. They are still not supposed to break the barrier over any populated areas (including remotely populated) overseas and never over U.S. soil.

Beat me to it. I still remember the on-base commotion and kerfuffle that ensued when visiting TXANG F-16 jocks went supersonic over the Hudson River.

Mackieman Aug 4, 2009 9:36 am


Originally Posted by Hartmann (Post 12172870)
Does not matter. They are still not supposed to break the barrier over any populated areas (including remotely populated) overseas and never over U.S. soil.

We had a NASA training mission break it on accident here once and I thought the city of Pasadena was going to burn down the Johnson Space Center.

Oh; I thought it was kosher over military bases. The More You Know™.

bdjohns1 Aug 4, 2009 9:38 am


Originally Posted by sdm1130 (Post 12172853)
You can put that in Car Rental Memory but you need an actual flight number for FM. :)

My FM would probably give me a case of RSI from entering the same airports over and over.

Big fat line ORD-SYR (about 70 trips 2001-2005), big fat line ORD-ABE (the aforementioned 50-60 trips in 05-06).

Steph3n Aug 4, 2009 9:41 am


Originally Posted by ConciergeMike (Post 12172812)
You show me a jet breaking the sound barrier over American soil, I show you a pilot whose file gets a little thicker upon landing. :rolleyes:

oh it just happened for sure, it happens quite a bit out here in the western regions of the Tx(edited: not sure US, that was a slip).

I can't tell you how many times up in Aspermont, Tx I heard T-38's go supersonic.

Edit: About this time last year we were hearing continual sonic booms, I think we heard about 20 in one day. it was so bad it made the nearby newspaper(they could easily hear them as well) and there was never any mention that it was not supposed to happen.

They were on advanced training missions, I don't even know that I read the entire article as I knew what they were, but people were calling into the newspaper and radio station asking what all the booms were.
Also just FYI, I am actually right next to Camp Bowie, north west of Fort Hood, south east of Dyess AFB, east of Goodfellow AFB, south west of the JRB in forth Worth(see a lot of test flights out this way from there at the lockheed and other maintenance facilities), I am surrounded by AFB and military installations, including a few active missile silos.

Hartmann Aug 4, 2009 9:47 am


Originally Posted by Steph3n (Post 12172923)
oh it just happened for sure, it happens quite a bit out here in the western regions of the US.

I can't tell you how many times up in Aspermont, Tx I heard T-38's go supersonic.

I hunt in Justiceburg fairly often (80 miles west of Aspermont) and never hear or see T-38s. The only jets I ever see are B-1s heading to and from Dyess and their F-15 escorts. Occasionally I will see planes headed to Altus but that is very rare.

I've never heard anyone break the sound barrier over that part of Texas, since it would be heard from Lubbock to Abilene.

The continual noise I thought was from the B-1s heading to the bombing range in N.M. and flying at 10k feet or so.

Steph3n Aug 4, 2009 9:52 am


Originally Posted by Hartmann (Post 12172959)
I hunt in Justiceburg fairly often (80 miles west of Aspermont) and never hear or see T-38s. The only jets I ever see are B-1s heading to and from Dyess and their F-15 escorts. Occasionally I will see planes headed to Altus but that is very rare.

I've never heard anyone break the sound barrier over that part of Texas, since it would be heard from Lubbock to Abilene.

The continual noise I thought was from the B-1s heading to the bombing range in N.M. and flying at 10k feet or so. I remember them shutting down the airspace to private planes for about a week.

I was also there for hunting, this is all over 5 years ago about the T-38's, sometimes they would fly so low it was very obvious what they were.

I still hear all the C130s and B1s just over my house here south east of Dyess. I used to be able to Id the Colgan SAABs going to ABI as well, they flew directly over my house at 8-12k, but that is no more.

Hartmann Aug 4, 2009 9:54 am

http://www.nonoise.org/news/1999/apr4.htm

Halfway down is the article I was thinking of from 1999. The ranchers threatened to sue, but never did AFAIK.

Olton Hall Aug 4, 2009 10:03 am

Congrats CM on your 10K

It sounds/felt like the blast at the rock quarry a minute ago didn't go right. Normally one big ground shakeing rumble, last time too big to be honest, but this one had a medium rumble followed a few seconds by more of a bang:eek:.

Steph3n Aug 4, 2009 10:05 am


Originally Posted by Hartmann (Post 12173001)
http://www.nonoise.org/news/1999/apr4.htm

Halfway down is the article I was thinking of from 1999. The ranchers threatened to sue, but never did AFAIK.

Just was looking back to find archives of the article last year, and it is :rolleyes: pay only to search even:rolleyes:. So forget that, I looked on the google and found Jan 2008 when all the flurry of Stephenville, TX UFO sightings were happening, the AF had 10 F16's doing advanced training including dogfighting and other maneuvers in my area, this was the cause of all the sonic booms last year in my area that made for phone calls to the radio and paper.

It has happened several times since then, but today was noticeably large, it shook my house some, normally it just rattles some glasses on the shelf, but today those are all in the sink and it physically made the house tremble.

Steph3n Aug 4, 2009 10:07 am


Originally Posted by Olton Hall (Post 12173054)
Congrats CM on your 10K

It sounds/felt like the blast at the rock quarry a minute ago didn't go right. Normally one big ground shakeing rumble, last time too big to be honest, but this one had a medium rumble followed a few seconds by more of a bang:eek:.

maybe you heard a blast cord followed by the explosion for a new section of mine...I used to hear this sometimes near a coal mine when they were stripping the soil off a new section.


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