BA AMS lounge permanently closed
#181
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AY and IB would be operating within the Schengen area I believe, so a lounge in a non-schengen area would not be of use for IB and AY passengers
AA doesn't fly to AMS iirc
That only would leave QR , CX and BA . QR and CX seem to have 1 flight a day each
For QR and CX, operating their own lounge for 1 flight seems excessive and logical to just pay for a contact lounge to provide service. Whether it is worth BA running a lounge would surely depend on cost of lounge space and opeating cost vs cost per person to a 3rd party.
AA doesn't fly to AMS iirc
That only would leave QR , CX and BA . QR and CX seem to have 1 flight a day each
For QR and CX, operating their own lounge for 1 flight seems excessive and logical to just pay for a contact lounge to provide service. Whether it is worth BA running a lounge would surely depend on cost of lounge space and opeating cost vs cost per person to a 3rd party.
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There are some photos upthread, but this gives a wider view and illustrates the size, which is somewhat restricted.
#183
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Not much to report here. Can’t see much different from when h was last here in May.
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How does oneworld’s current presence at AMS compare with DME (pre-Covid)? DME was slated for the first oneworld lounge and correct me if I am wrong, this was to be in addition to S7’s domestic lounge
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Doesn’t really work as a comparison as AMS ops are split into Schengen and non-Schengen, while DME had domestic (S7 only) and International (everyone, including JL who were one of the driving forces behind it). I’d love them to find somewhere for the concept to work though.
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Doesn’t really work as a comparison as AMS ops are split into Schengen and non-Schengen, while DME had domestic (S7 only) and International (everyone, including JL who were one of the driving forces behind it). I’d love them to find somewhere for the concept to work though.
DME was served by seven oneworld airlines prior to covid (AT, BA, CX, IB, JL, QR, RJ); AMS (non-Schengen) currently amounts to six (AA, AT, BA, CX, RJ, QR). The numbers probalbly aren't massively different but I suppose growth potential is another factor which is difficult for us to quantify.
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Passed through the Cafe Flor "lounge" last week. Staff unsure when things would change , works are "not on schedule".
#188
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Popped into Flor today. It's adequate I suppose as a temporary stopgap but I still cannot believe how poor the overall lounge situation is. I don't have any stats, but having flown the route for many many years I would be astonished if it were not one of the more premium destinations in the network. Admittedly C fares are largely going to be for connecting traffic (although I do know a few people that will fly business even for point to point A'dam flights) but given the amount of business in and around Amsterdam, and just based on what I observe, it must surely have a high number of status passengers who would make use of a lounge. If I were flying the route just a bit more regularly, I would consider switching to KLM- though the fact that they fly into T4 might disadvantage them.
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Refurbishment is taking longer, lounge won't reopen until somewhere near the end of the year according to a message of Swissport to airlines/other clients.
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I do know a few people that will fly business even for point to point A'dam flights) but given the amount of business in and around Amsterdam, and just based on what I observe, it must surely have a high number of status passengers who would make use of a lounge.
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AMS seems to be much better with security queues this year. However, I am still seeing some pretty awful arrivals immigrations queues sometimes, with long lines before you are even allowed to go down to the immigration hall.
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Security at AMS was excellent last Sunday evening. Immigration on the Friday evening was awful.
And the Sunday evening flight was delayed and we couldn't get into the 'lounge' as it was closing. Was very surprised for such a route at the poor offering.
And the Sunday evening flight was delayed and we couldn't get into the 'lounge' as it was closing. Was very surprised for such a route at the poor offering.
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And the inbound immigration issue is only going to get worse over the summer. KMar insist they are not short staffed however acknowledge that they won't be providing enough to AMS to avoid huge queues, particularly for arrivals because they will be focussing on providing staffing for departures and connections so that they aren't slated like last year for making people miss their flights. This means the D-pier immigration being closed a lot and having to walk round to E so that they can maintain one huge non-EU queue in that corral Schiphol has made before the one-way doors.
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And the inbound immigration issue is only going to get worse over the summer. KMar insist they are not short staffed however acknowledge that they won't be providing enough to AMS to avoid huge queues, particularly for arrivals because they will be focussing on providing staffing for departures and connections so that they aren't slated like last year for making people miss their flights. This means the D-pier immigration being closed a lot and having to walk round to E so that they can maintain one huge non-EU queue in that corral Schiphol has made before the one-way doors.
Swissport manager was on my HEL-AMS flight the other day and told his colleague they’re very worried it may not be done until Jan.
#195
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Has anyone had much experience of trying to bypass the queues at E gates by "transferring from Non-Schenegen to Schenegen" area round the corner from the human clock? I just wondered if immigration insist you have a boarding pass? I know there are certain times of the day where that transition area is extremely busy, so would avoid then, but wondered if you are allowed to go through that route without a boarding pass as the exit is pretty close once you get through there, plus you'll come through by carousel 2 which is usually where LHR BA baggage is used? Thanks