Mar 12, 18, 2:46 pm
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This wikipost presents an updated summary of AF plans for retrofitting the long-haul fleet with new J (and W) seats. For more details, please refer to the thread below
Last update on 9 NOV 2023
B772
21 planes. All B772 are already retrofitted with the BEST cabins (Zodiac Cirrus seat). A refit programme is underway to standardise the 772 fleet with a 28J 32W 268M configuration, with refits expected to be complete before summer 2024.
B77W
Version with P (19 planes out of 43 77W): 19/19 completed (F-GSQA, F-GSQB, F-GSQC, F-GSQF, F-GSQG, F-GSQH, F-GSQI, F-GSQJ, F-GSQK, F-GSQL, F-GSQM, F-GSQU, F-GSQV, F-GSQY, F-GZNA, F-GZNB, F-GZNC, F-GZND, F-GZNE)Last update on 9 NOV 2023
B772
21 planes. All B772 are already retrofitted with the BEST cabins (Zodiac Cirrus seat). A refit programme is underway to standardise the 772 fleet with a 28J 32W 268M configuration, with refits expected to be complete before summer 2024.
B77W
- They are already all retrofitted with the BEST cabins (Zodiac Cirrus seat).
- Seating config: F4C58W28Y206
COI version (14J) (12 planes out of 43 B77W): all retrofitted (F-GSQO, F-GSQP, F-GSQT, F-GSQX, F-GZNG. F-GSQS, F-GZNF, F-GSQR, F-GSQN, F-GZNO, F-GZNL and F-GZNN).
- The J seat is Zodiac Optima (same as chosen for the A350), similar to the UA Polaris seat. The config is 1-2-1 and total 14J.
- The W seat is the same as in the B789.
- Seating config: C14W32Y422
Remaining 77W (the 12 planes in NEV4 "loisirs" config (42J)): 10/12 completed
- The new seat will be a slightly improved version of the BEST seat, with a door for privacy.
- Retrofits started in March 2022 and are projected to finish by the end of 2023 per AF and other sources.
- Retrofit completed : F-GZNK, F-GZNP, F-GZNQ, F-GZNS, F-GZNT, F-GZNI, F-GZNR, F-GZNU, F-GZNJ, F-GZNH
- Aircraft in retrofit: none
- Aircraft yet to be converted: F-GSQD, F-GSQE
- Seating config: C48W48Y273
B789
- Direct deliveries with BEST cabins (Zodiac Cirrus seat, slightly smaller than the 777 one, due to fuselage width limitation).
- Ten planes have been delivered to AF (F-HRBA to F-HRBJ).
- AF initially ordered 15 B789, with the remaining to go to KL.
A332
- 15 planes. Retrofitted in 2-2-2 with the Stelia Equinoxe seat. A similar seat can be seen in the UX B787. Also, the W seats are the same as the B789.
A343
Remaining 77W (the 12 planes in NEV4 "loisirs" config (42J)): 10/12 completed
- The new seat will be a slightly improved version of the BEST seat, with a door for privacy.
- Retrofits started in March 2022 and are projected to finish by the end of 2023 per AF and other sources.
- Retrofit completed : F-GZNK, F-GZNP, F-GZNQ, F-GZNS, F-GZNT, F-GZNI, F-GZNR, F-GZNU, F-GZNJ, F-GZNH
- Aircraft in retrofit: none
- Aircraft yet to be converted: F-GSQD, F-GSQE
- Seating config: C48W48Y273
B789
- Direct deliveries with BEST cabins (Zodiac Cirrus seat, slightly smaller than the 777 one, due to fuselage width limitation).
- Ten planes have been delivered to AF (F-HRBA to F-HRBJ).
- AF initially ordered 15 B789, with the remaining to go to KL.
A332
- 15 planes. Retrofitted in 2-2-2 with the Stelia Equinoxe seat. A similar seat can be seen in the UX B787. Also, the W seats are the same as the B789.
- More info on A332 retrofit can be found in this thread: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-...-retrofit.html
- Since October 2020, all aircraft have the new cabin.All retired per ch-aviation.
A359
- Overall, AF will have 38 A359. 22 planes have been delivered as of 22/09/2023:
First batch (20): F-HTYA/B/C/D/E/F/G/H/I/J/K/L/M/N/O/P/Q/R/S/T
- Direct delivery with Zodiac Optima, similar to UA Polaris seat (see above B777 COI). Config 1-2-1.
- The W seat is a Recaro recliner seat.
- All the A359 ordered for both AF & KL are finally going to AF (while KL will receive all the B789 remaining to be delivered on the AF sub-order).
- As per an information post by frausflyer , the 20th A350 (likely F-HTYT) to be delivered to AF will have a P cabin. https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/33283076-post467.html. However, this eventually did not happen, and F-HTYT has the same cabin as the 19 aircraft that preceded it.
Second batch (4/18): F-HUVA/B/C/D
- The 21st A359 (F-HUVA) has the new 48J cabin with small differences compared to the B77W one. According to Aerolopa, it and 17 A350s to follow will not have P. The configuration will be C48W32Y212 (vs. C34W24Y266 for previously delivered A350s)
All A380 will leave the fleet by 2022 and so, will not be retrofitted with new seats. F-HPJB is the 1st to leave the fleet : it has been returned to the lessor in January 2020.
All retired June 26 2020 due to COVID-19.
updated information about new J seats deployments and other information
Sep 13, 18, 4:14 pm
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It seems that the retrofit of the A332 will start soon after a huge delay. Indeed, as announced here, DFW will be launched end march with A332 with new seats in J/W/Y. This is consistent with the wiki information saying that retrofit will start in Dec 2018.
The J cabin will lose 2 seats compared with today. Config will be 36J 21W 167Y. As already said before, J seating will be 2-2-2.
The J cabin will lose 2 seats compared with today. Config will be 36J 21W 167Y. As already said before, J seating will be 2-2-2.
Sep 17, 18, 2:37 pm
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It seems that the retrofit of the A332 will start soon after a huge delay. Indeed, as announced here, DFW will be launched end march with A332 with new seats in J/W/Y. This is consistent with the wiki information saying that retrofit will start in Dec 2018.
The J cabin will lose 2 seats compared with today. Config will be 36J 21W 167Y. As already said before, J seating will be 2-2-2.
The J cabin will lose 2 seats compared with today. Config will be 36J 21W 167Y. As already said before, J seating will be 2-2-2.
SEA is A332 next summer
I hope it will have the new cabins
Sep 17, 18, 3:07 pm
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Sep 17, 18, 3:10 pm
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But what good are new cabins if they are still in a 2-2-2 configuration? Yes, lie flat, which is obviously a huge plus. But still the need to climb over someone else when seated at the window? Still limited storage space?
Really, this is very lame.
Really, this is very lame.
Sep 18, 18, 4:51 pm
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It seems that the retrofit of the A332 will start soon after a huge delay. Indeed, as announced here, DFW will be launched end march with A332 with new seats in J/W/Y. This is consistent with the wiki information saying that retrofit will start in Dec 2018.
The J cabin will lose 2 seats compared with today. Config will be 36J 21W 167Y. As already said before, J seating will be 2-2-2.
The J cabin will lose 2 seats compared with today. Config will be 36J 21W 167Y. As already said before, J seating will be 2-2-2.
Sep 18, 18, 7:27 pm
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Sep 20, 18, 8:10 am
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The part that I don't understand is that DL gets 34J all with direct aisle access in pretty much the same space that AF and KL are doing 2-2-2 configurations in, using a similar seat to the 777 AF BEST or 787 seats. Is it a production issue? Or cost?
Sep 20, 18, 1:40 pm
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Actually I wonder about that too. I like D1 seat on A330, paid extra $ for it on my red-eye from Hawaii later this year.
Sep 27, 18, 9:12 am
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Sep 28, 18, 7:39 am
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Is it correct that a logo Design+ by AF on the flight booking page guarantees the BEST seat ? Route is CDG-PVG and there is a mix of A388 and B777 (it does not say 772 or 77W), but the 777 flights have the Design logo.
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