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Old Mar 12, 2018, 1:46 pm
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This wikipost presents an updated summary of AF configurations and plans for deliveries and retrofitting the long-haul fleet with new J (and W) seats. For more details, please refer to the thread below

Last update on 15 JUL 2025

All the long-haul fleet is equipped with lie-flat seats in J. All the long-haul fleet is in 1-2-1 configuration in J with direct aisle access, with the exception of the A332 which are in 2-2-2 configuration.

B772
21 planes, all B772 with the BEST cabins (Zodiac Cirrus seat). A refit programme is nearing completion to standardise the 772 fleet with a 28J 32W 268M configuration, with the final frames in the hanger for refurbishment
- J seating is 1-2-1
- W seat is a hard-shell seat (the 1st generation of W seats installed by AF)
- Seating Config: C28W32Y268

B77W
4P Version with "Old" P (19 planes out of 43 77W : F-GSQA, F-GSQB, F-GSQC, F-GSQF, F-GSQG, F-GSQH, F-GSQI, F-GSQJ, F-GSQK, F-GSQL, F-GSQM, F-GSQU, F-GSQV, F-GSQY, F-GZNA, F-GZNB, F-GZNC, F-GZND, and F-GZNE)
- J seating is 1-2-1 (Zodiac Cirrus seat), aka BEST cabin, same as B772
- W seat is a hard-shell seat (the 1st generation of W seats installed by AF)
- Seating config: F4C58W28Y206

4P Version with "New" P (3 planes : F-GZNK, F-GZNP, F-GZNQ).
[F-GZND arrived @ ORY 08 APR for mods]
- New La Premier cabin with chaise lounge
- New J seat: Safran Cirrus 5C03 suites with a door in a 1-2-1 configuration
- W seat: Recaro PL3530 seats
- Seating config: F4C60W44Y204

COI version (14J) (12 planes out of 43 B77W : F-GSQO, F-GSQP, F-GSQT, F-GSQX, F-GZNG. F-GSQS, F-GZNF, F-GSQR, F-GSQN, F-GZNO, F-GZNL and F-GZNN).
- The J seat is Zodiac Optima (same as chosen for the initial batch of A350), similar to the UA Polaris seat, in a 1-2-1 configuration
- The W seat is the same as in the B789, i.e a hard-shell seat with a very slightly improved version compared to B772 and B77W (version with P).
- Seating config: C14W28Y430

Remaining 77W (9 planes out of 43 B77W : F-GZNS, F-GZNT, F-GZNI, F-GZNR, F-GZNU, F-GZNJ, F-GZNH, F-GSQD and F-GSQE)
- These planes were the former "NEV4" ones. Retrofits started in March 2022 and were completed in June 2024.
- New J seat: Safran Cirrus 5C03 suites with a door in a 1-2-1 configuration
- W seat: Recaro PL3530 seats
- Seating config: C48W48Y273

B789
- Ten planes have been delivered to AF (F-HRBA to F-HRBJ). No further deliveries are planned for AF (the initial order was for 15 frames, but the 5 remaining ones have been assigned to KL).
- J seat is BEST cabins (Zodiac Cirrus seat, slightly smaller than the 777 one, due to fuselage width limitation). The main difference with the B777 is the smaller tablet.
- J seating is 1-2-1
- The W seat is a hard-shell seat with a very slightly improved version compared to B772 and B77W (version with P).
- Seating config: C30W21Y228

A332
- As of 11/2025, only 7 planes remain in service (F-GZCA/F/G/K/M/N/O), but F & N are not flying at the moment, so only 5 are active. They are mostly flying to SXM, BLR, BEY, and some Africa routes (LAD, PNR, BZV, LFW).
- J seating is 2-2-2, with the Stelia Equinoxe seat (a similar seat can be seen in the UX B787).
- The W seat is the same as in the B789, i.e a hard-shell seat with a very slightly improved version compared to B772 and B77W (version with P).
- Seating config: C36W21Y167

A359
39 planes have been delivered as of 11/07/2025:

First batch (20): F-HTYA/B/C/D/E/F/G/H/I/J/K/L/M/N/O/P/Q/R/S/T
- J seat is Zodiac Optima, same as in B77W COI version)
- J seating is 1-2-1
- The W seat is a Recaro recliner seat.
- Seating config: C34W24Y266

Second batch (19/21): F-HUVA/B/C/D/E/F/G/H/I/J/K/L/M/N/O/P/Q/R/S/
- The new seat (Stelia Opera) is a slightly improved version of the BEST seat, with a door for privacy (similar to the one placed in the last batch of retrofitted B77W, with small differences).
- J seating is 1-2-1
- The W seat is a Recaro recliner seat.
- Seating config: C48W32Y212


RETIRED PLANE TYPES
A343
Last plane was withdrawn in 2021.
A388
Last plane was withdrawn in 2020.
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Old Sep 10, 2018 | 1:01 am
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It seems that the retrofit of the A332 will start soon after a huge delay. Indeed, as announced here, DFW will be launched end march with A332 with new seats in J/W/Y. This is consistent with the wiki information saying that retrofit will start in Dec 2018.
The J cabin will lose 2 seats compared with today. Config will be 36J 21W 167Y. As already said before, J seating will be 2-2-2.
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Originally Posted by Goldorak
It seems that the retrofit of the A332 will start soon after a huge delay. Indeed, as announced here, DFW will be launched end march with A332 with new seats in J/W/Y. This is consistent with the wiki information saying that retrofit will start in Dec 2018.
The J cabin will lose 2 seats compared with today. Config will be 36J 21W 167Y. As already said before, J seating will be 2-2-2.
it was high time.
SEA is A332 next summer
I hope it will have the new cabins


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Originally Posted by LY777
it was high time.
SEA is A332 next summer
I hope it will have the new cabins
There are good chances
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But what good are new cabins if they are still in a 2-2-2 configuration? Yes, lie flat, which is obviously a huge plus. But still the need to climb over someone else when seated at the window? Still limited storage space?

Really, this is very lame.
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Originally Posted by Goldorak
It seems that the retrofit of the A332 will start soon after a huge delay. Indeed, as announced here, DFW will be launched end march with A332 with new seats in J/W/Y. This is consistent with the wiki information saying that retrofit will start in Dec 2018.
The J cabin will lose 2 seats compared with today. Config will be 36J 21W 167Y. As already said before, J seating will be 2-2-2.
Confirmed by AF : start in 12/2018. Will last approx 1 year.
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Originally Posted by Goldorak
Will last approx 1 year.


They forgot to mention the fine prints:
- If the supplier does not go bankrupt
- If they do not change the design of the seat to a +1 version
- If they do not order new frames from Airbus fitted with older seats
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Originally Posted by San Gottardo
But what good are new cabins if they are still in a 2-2-2 configuration? Yes, lie flat, which is obviously a huge plus. But still the need to climb over someone else when seated at the window? Still limited storage space?

Really, this is very lame.
The part that I don't understand is that DL gets 34J all with direct aisle access in pretty much the same space that AF and KL are doing 2-2-2 configurations in, using a similar seat to the 777 AF BEST or 787 seats. Is it a production issue? Or cost?
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The part that I don't understand is that DL gets 34J all with direct aisle access in pretty much the same space that AF and KL are doing 2-2-2 configurations in, using a similar seat to the 777 AF BEST or 787 seats. Is it a production issue? Or cost?
Actually I wonder about that too. I like D1 seat on A330, paid extra $ for it on my red-eye from Hawaii later this year.
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The first destinations to have the retrofitted A332 will be BOS and OUA.
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Originally Posted by Goldorak
The first destinations to have the retrofitted A332 will be BOS and OUA.
OUA is on the way to ACC. Strange choice, as it is a long flight.
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Originally Posted by LY777
SEA is A332 next summer
I hope it will have the new cabins
Yes it will. From 23 April ^
https://www.routesonline.com/news/38...craft-changes/
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It seems strange that they could operate BOS, SEA and OUA/ACC starting in April.
Actually BOS still shows a 777 for the summer.
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Originally Posted by brunos
It seems strange that they could operate BOS, SEA and OUA/ACC starting in April.
Actually BOS still shows a 777 for the summer.
BOS and OUA will surely start before April.
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Is it correct that a logo Design+ by AF on the flight booking page guarantees the BEST seat ? Route is CDG-PVG and there is a mix of A388 and B777 (it does not say 772 or 77W), but the 777 flights have the Design logo.

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