Mar 12, 2018, 1:46 pm
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This wikipost presents an updated summary of AF configurations and plans for deliveries and retrofitting the long-haul fleet with new J (and W) seats. For more details, please refer to the thread below
Last update on 15 JUL 2025
All the long-haul fleet is equipped with lie-flat seats in J. All the long-haul fleet is in 1-2-1 configuration in J with direct aisle access, with the exception of the A332 which are in 2-2-2 configuration.
B772
21 planes, all B772 with the BEST cabins (Zodiac Cirrus seat). A refit programme is nearing completion to standardise the 772 fleet with a 28J 32W 268M configuration, with the final frames in the hanger for refurbishment
- J seating is 1-2-1
- W seat is a hard-shell seat (the 1st generation of W seats installed by AF)
- Seating Config: C28W32Y268
B77W
4P Version with "Old" P (19 planes out of 43 77W : F-GSQA, F-GSQB, F-GSQC, F-GSQF, F-GSQG, F-GSQH, F-GSQI, F-GSQJ, F-GSQK, F-GSQL, F-GSQM, F-GSQU, F-GSQV, F-GSQY, F-GZNA, F-GZNB, F-GZNC, F-GZND, and F-GZNE)Last update on 15 JUL 2025
All the long-haul fleet is equipped with lie-flat seats in J. All the long-haul fleet is in 1-2-1 configuration in J with direct aisle access, with the exception of the A332 which are in 2-2-2 configuration.
B772
21 planes, all B772 with the BEST cabins (Zodiac Cirrus seat). A refit programme is nearing completion to standardise the 772 fleet with a 28J 32W 268M configuration, with the final frames in the hanger for refurbishment
- J seating is 1-2-1
- W seat is a hard-shell seat (the 1st generation of W seats installed by AF)
- Seating Config: C28W32Y268
B77W
- J seating is 1-2-1 (Zodiac Cirrus seat), aka BEST cabin, same as B772
- W seat is a hard-shell seat (the 1st generation of W seats installed by AF)
- Seating config: F4C58W28Y206
4P Version with "New" P (3 planes : F-GZNK, F-GZNP, F-GZNQ).
[F-GZND arrived @ ORY 08 APR for mods]
- New La Premier cabin with chaise lounge
- New J seat: Safran Cirrus 5C03 suites with a door in a 1-2-1 configuration
- W seat: Recaro PL3530 seats
- Seating config: F4C60W44Y204
COI version (14J) (12 planes out of 43 B77W : F-GSQO, F-GSQP, F-GSQT, F-GSQX, F-GZNG. F-GSQS, F-GZNF, F-GSQR, F-GSQN, F-GZNO, F-GZNL and F-GZNN).
- The J seat is Zodiac Optima (same as chosen for the initial batch of A350), similar to the UA Polaris seat, in a 1-2-1 configuration
- The W seat is the same as in the B789, i.e a hard-shell seat with a very slightly improved version compared to B772 and B77W (version with P).
- Seating config: C14W28Y430
Remaining 77W (9 planes out of 43 B77W : F-GZNS, F-GZNT, F-GZNI, F-GZNR, F-GZNU, F-GZNJ, F-GZNH, F-GSQD and F-GSQE)
- These planes were the former "NEV4" ones. Retrofits started in March 2022 and were completed in June 2024.
- New J seat: Safran Cirrus 5C03 suites with a door in a 1-2-1 configuration
- W seat: Recaro PL3530 seats
- Seating config: C48W48Y273
B789
- Ten planes have been delivered to AF (F-HRBA to F-HRBJ). No further deliveries are planned for AF (the initial order was for 15 frames, but the 5 remaining ones have been assigned to KL).
- J seat is BEST cabins (Zodiac Cirrus seat, slightly smaller than the 777 one, due to fuselage width limitation). The main difference with the B777 is the smaller tablet.
- J seating is 1-2-1
- The W seat is a hard-shell seat with a very slightly improved version compared to B772 and B77W (version with P).
- Seating config: C30W21Y228
A332
- As of 11/2025, only 7 planes remain in service (F-GZCA/F/G/K/M/N/O), but F & N are not flying at the moment, so only 5 are active. They are mostly flying to SXM, BLR, BEY, and some Africa routes (LAD, PNR, BZV, LFW).
- J seating is 2-2-2, with the Stelia Equinoxe seat (a similar seat can be seen in the UX B787).
- The W seat is the same as in the B789, i.e a hard-shell seat with a very slightly improved version compared to B772 and B77W (version with P).
- Seating config: C36W21Y167
A359
39 planes have been delivered as of 11/07/2025:
First batch (20): F-HTYA/B/C/D/E/F/G/H/I/J/K/L/M/N/O/P/Q/R/S/T
- J seat is Zodiac Optima, same as in B77W COI version)
- J seating is 1-2-1
- The W seat is a Recaro recliner seat.
- Seating config: C34W24Y266
Second batch (19/21): F-HUVA/B/C/D/E/F/G/H/I/J/K/L/M/N/O/P/Q/R/S/
- The new seat (Stelia Opera) is a slightly improved version of the BEST seat, with a door for privacy (similar to the one placed in the last batch of retrofitted B77W, with small differences).
- J seating is 1-2-1
- The W seat is a Recaro recliner seat.
- Seating config: C48W32Y212
RETIRED PLANE TYPES
Last plane was withdrawn in 2020.
Remaining 77W (9 planes out of 43 B77W : F-GZNS, F-GZNT, F-GZNI, F-GZNR, F-GZNU, F-GZNJ, F-GZNH, F-GSQD and F-GSQE)
- These planes were the former "NEV4" ones. Retrofits started in March 2022 and were completed in June 2024.
- New J seat: Safran Cirrus 5C03 suites with a door in a 1-2-1 configuration
- W seat: Recaro PL3530 seats
- Seating config: C48W48Y273
B789
- Ten planes have been delivered to AF (F-HRBA to F-HRBJ). No further deliveries are planned for AF (the initial order was for 15 frames, but the 5 remaining ones have been assigned to KL).
- J seat is BEST cabins (Zodiac Cirrus seat, slightly smaller than the 777 one, due to fuselage width limitation). The main difference with the B777 is the smaller tablet.
- J seating is 1-2-1
- The W seat is a hard-shell seat with a very slightly improved version compared to B772 and B77W (version with P).
- Seating config: C30W21Y228
A332
- As of 11/2025, only 7 planes remain in service (F-GZCA/F/G/K/M/N/O), but F & N are not flying at the moment, so only 5 are active. They are mostly flying to SXM, BLR, BEY, and some Africa routes (LAD, PNR, BZV, LFW).
- J seating is 2-2-2, with the Stelia Equinoxe seat (a similar seat can be seen in the UX B787).
- The W seat is the same as in the B789, i.e a hard-shell seat with a very slightly improved version compared to B772 and B77W (version with P).
- Seating config: C36W21Y167
A359
39 planes have been delivered as of 11/07/2025:
First batch (20): F-HTYA/B/C/D/E/F/G/H/I/J/K/L/M/N/O/P/Q/R/S/T
- J seat is Zodiac Optima, same as in B77W COI version)
- J seating is 1-2-1
- The W seat is a Recaro recliner seat.
- Seating config: C34W24Y266
Second batch (19/21): F-HUVA/B/C/D/E/F/G/H/I/J/K/L/M/N/O/P/Q/R/S/
- The new seat (Stelia Opera) is a slightly improved version of the BEST seat, with a door for privacy (similar to the one placed in the last batch of retrofitted B77W, with small differences).
- J seating is 1-2-1
- The W seat is a Recaro recliner seat.
- Seating config: C48W32Y212
RETIRED PLANE TYPES
A343
Last plane was withdrawn in 2021.
A388Last plane was withdrawn in 2020.
updated information about new J seats deployments and other information
Aug 25, 2017 | 3:00 pm
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Slightly OT, but QF has announced today a retrofit plan for their 12 A388. It seems complicated too as they will start only Q2-2019, but it will be finished end 2020.
https://www.qantasnewsroom.com.au/me...or-a380-fleet/
https://www.qantasnewsroom.com.au/me...or-a380-fleet/
On their A380 , AF has an art gallery.
This beats any seat refurbishment.
Aug 25, 2017 | 9:17 pm
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Slightly OT, but QF has announced today a retrofit plan for their 12 A388. It seems complicated too as they will start only Q2-2019, but it will be finished end 2020.
https://www.qantasnewsroom.com.au/me...or-a380-fleet/
https://www.qantasnewsroom.com.au/me...or-a380-fleet/
What QF did for skybed is use traditional seats but adding some 50cm spacing between seats. Hence the current skybed seats are fully flat without having the feet going under the seat in front as with the "new" solo designs. Also means a lot of personal space, especially at the legs/feet compared to the new solo beds, but these "old" seats are very space-greedy and totally inefficient from the airline viewpoint. QF will get many more business seats with the new generation
Sep 26, 2017 | 1:34 am
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JMJ has announced that the refurbishment of the a380 will be done by 2020 and that "they don't want to delay it anymore".
JMJ has announced that the refurbishment of the a380 will be done by 2020 and that "they don't want to delay it anymore".
Sep 26, 2017 | 5:20 am
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I wouldnt be surprised if one of the reasons why currently there are no BEST refurbishments going on (777 all done, A330 and A380 not yet started) is that they use the capacities to refurbish some planes with JOON cabins.
Sep 26, 2017 | 4:13 pm
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JMJ has announced that the refurbishment of the a380 will be done by 2020 and that "they don't want to delay it anymore".
JMJ has announced that the refurbishment of the a380 will be done by 2020 and that "they don't want to delay it anymore".
Sep 29, 2017 | 4:21 am
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You mean that they are refurbishing the A340? But is it worth it as Joon longhaul should only start in March 2018 and be quickly replaced by A350.
Sep 29, 2017 | 4:35 am
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Maybe you're right. I was just being nice and trying to find an excuse why they can't refurbish any of the AF mainline widebodies. They are done with the B777s, they have not started the A330s and A380s. So what are they doing? Or is the delivery or seats or other elements of the new cabin the bottleneck? Or have they badly planned and they cannot kickoff the refurbishment program yet because some details still need to be decided? So I was thinking that maybe it's the JOON planes, the A320s and/or A340s
Sep 29, 2017 | 7:17 am
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In the recently delivered 77W in loisir configuration, some planes like F-GZNK are still using the old IFE in W and old Y (basically the same than the A380).
I hope those will get a refresh at some point.
I hope those will get a refresh at some point.
Sep 29, 2017 | 8:44 am
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Maybe you're right. I was just being nice and trying to find an excuse why they can't refurbish any of the AF mainline widebodies. They are done with the B777s, they have not started the A330s and A380s. So what are they doing? Or is the delivery or seats or other elements of the new cabin the bottleneck? Or have they badly planned and they cannot kickoff the refurbishment program yet because some details still need to be decided? So I was thinking that maybe it's the JOON planes, the A320s and/or A340s
Now that they will have it, it takes time to order the seats and there is a waiting queue at all seat manufacturers.
Sep 29, 2017 | 9:22 am
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Sep 30, 2017 | 6:26 pm
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NEV4 is indeed a old seat now. Recently I even found a NEV3 in a A380 from JFK. I feel like 10 years ago. Thanks AF to make me back in time...bad experience however as those seat are really not flat at all.
Honestly now I specifically track the 777 with BEST or I'am looking for KL or DL flights.
Honestly now I specifically track the 777 with BEST or I'am looking for KL or DL flights.
Oct 25, 2017 | 2:50 pm
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Oct 25, 2017 | 3:23 pm
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Yes I saw that but it's ambiguous. The post also indicates that some 777 have already been refit, so I want to know if those aircraft have the same W seat as the 787.
My takeaway from this though is that only the 787 has the new W seat. Is that correct?
My takeaway from this though is that only the 787 has the new W seat. Is that correct?
Oct 26, 2017 | 12:30 am
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Correct