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updated information about new J seats deployments and other information

Old Mar 12, 2018, 1:46 pm
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This wikipost presents an updated summary of AF plans for retrofitting the long-haul fleet with new J (and W) seats. For more details, please refer to the thread below

Last update on 19 APR 2024

B772
21 planes. All B772 are already retrofitted with the BEST cabins (Zodiac Cirrus seat). A refit programme is underway to standardise the 772 fleet with a 28J 32W 268M configuration, with refits expected to be complete before summer 2024.
- Seating config 1: C28W32Y268
- Seating config 2: C28W24Y260
- Seating config 3: C40W32Y216

B77W
Version with P (19 planes out of 43 77W): 19/19 completed (F-GSQA, F-GSQB, F-GSQC, F-GSQF, F-GSQG, F-GSQH, F-GSQI, F-GSQJ, F-GSQK, F-GSQL, F-GSQM, F-GSQU, F-GSQV, F-GSQY, F-GZNA, F-GZNB, F-GZNC, F-GZND, and F-GZNE)
- They are already all retrofitted with the BEST cabins (Zodiac Cirrus seat).
- Seating config: F4C58W28Y206

COI version (14J) (12 planes out of 43 B77W): all retrofitted (F-GSQO, F-GSQP, F-GSQT, F-GSQX, F-GZNG. F-GSQS, F-GZNF, F-GSQR, F-GSQN, F-GZNO, F-GZNL and F-GZNN).
- The J seat is Zodiac Optima (same as chosen for the A350), similar to the UA Polaris seat. The config is 1-2-1 and total 14J.
- The W seat is the same as in the B789.
- Seating config: C14W32Y422

Remaining 77W (the 12 planes in NEV4 "loisirs" config (42J)): 10/12 completed (F-GZNK, F-GZNP, F-GZNQ, F-GZNS, F-GZNT, F-GZNI, F-GZNR, F-GZNU, F-GZNJ, and F-GZNH)
- The new seat will be a slightly improved version of the BEST seat, with a door for privacy.
- Retrofits started in March 2022 and were projected to finish by the end of 2023, but they are late.
- Aircraft in retrofit: F-GSQD (arrived @ ORY 28 Feb)
- Aircraft yet to be converted: F-GSQE (arrived @ ORY 19 Apr, awaiting confirmation)
- Seating config: C48W48Y273
- Old config: C42W24Y315

B789
- Direct deliveries with BEST cabins (Zodiac Cirrus seat, slightly smaller than the 777 one, due to fuselage width limitation).
- Ten planes have been delivered to AF (F-HRBA to F-HRBJ).
- AF initially ordered 15 B789, with the remaining to go to KL.
- Seating config: C30W21Y228

A332
- 15 planes. Retrofitted in 2-2-2 with the Stelia Equinoxe seat. A similar seat can be seen in the UX B787. Also, the W seats are the same as the B789.
- More info on A332 retrofit can be found in this thread: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-...-retrofit.html
- Since October 2020, all aircraft have the new cabin.
- Seating config: C36W21Y167

A343
Update 01/2020: Only 4 planes remaining (in Joon livery & interiors : F-GLZK/N/O/P). They will leave the fleet between 03/3020 and end 2021.
All retired per ch-aviation.


A359
- Overall, AF will have 38 A359. 22 planes have been delivered as of 22/09/2023:
First batch (20): F-HTYA/B/C/D/E/F/G/H/I/J/K/L/M/N/O/P/Q/R/S/T
- Direct delivery with Zodiac Optima, similar to UA Polaris seat (see above B777 COI). Config 1-2-1.
- The W seat is a Recaro recliner seat.
- All the A359 ordered for both AF & KL are finally going to AF (while KL will receive all the B789 remaining to be delivered on the AF sub-order).
- As per an information post by frausflyer , the 20th A350 (likely F-HTYT) to be delivered to AF will have a P cabin. https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/33283076-post467.html. However, this eventually did not happen, and F-HTYT has the same cabin as the 19 aircraft that preceded it.
- Seating config: C34W24Y266

Second batch (7/18): F-HUVA/B/C/D/E/F/G
- The 21st A359 (F-HUVA) has the new 48J cabin with small differences compared to the B77W one. According to Aerolopa, it and 17 A350s to follow will not have P.
- Seating config: C48W32Y212

A388
All A380 will leave the fleet by 2022 and so, will not be retrofitted with new seats. F-HPJB is the 1st to leave the fleet : it has been returned to the lessor in January 2020.
All retired June 26 2020 due to COVID-19.


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updated information about new J seats deployments and other information

Old Jun 25, 2019, 12:15 am
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AF A380 entire fleet could exit in 2024

Interesting article (in French) mentioning a highly probable exit of ALL AF A380 planes which implies ... no major retrofit
Decision expected in Sept19

https://thetravelersclub.boardingare...lhorizon-2024/
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Old Jun 26, 2019, 3:01 am
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Recent article in English on the retrofit of AF A380 fleet
https://liveandletsfly.boardingarea....retrofit-a380/
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Old Jun 29, 2019, 3:06 am
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The swap of the B787/A350 order between AF and KL is now confirmed. I have updated the wiki.
https://www.euronews.com/2019/06/28/...ficiency-drive
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Originally Posted by Goldorak
The swap of the B787/A350 order between AF and KL is now confirmed. I have updated the wiki.
https://www.euronews.com/2019/06/28/...ficiency-drive
Makes sense to me, and good news for Y flyers like me
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Old Jul 1, 2019, 4:04 pm
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The 1st A350 has just been painted in AF livery in TLS. Still no engines mounted.
https://corporate.airfrance.com/fr/a...rs-dair-france

Obviously, the A350 has the same large "AirFrance" name as on the B787.
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Old Jul 30, 2019, 2:07 pm
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As per the corporate news published today, all A380 will leave the fleet by 2022 and so, will not be retrofitted with new seats. Wiki updated.
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I have had a schedule change from a KL to a AF flight (KL777 to AF787). Most of the seats are still open. What would be the best one for singel traveller. I am now on 2A.
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Old Aug 13, 2019, 2:12 am
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Originally Posted by Meneer Guggenheimer
I have had a schedule change from a KL to a AF flight (KL777 to AF787). Most of the seats are still open. What would be the best one for singel traveller. I am now on 2A.
good choice.
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Old Sep 21, 2019, 2:24 am
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@ Goldorak :
yesterday an article on Air Journal claims a retrofit completion of AF 777W COI by the end of summer 2020
https://www.air-journal.fr/2019-09-2...d-5215063.html
I do not know to which extent this info is more reliable than the one you have posted in the sticky post
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Originally Posted by Bullspread
@ Goldorak :
yesterday an article on Air Journal claims a retrofit completion of AF 777W COI by the end of summer 2020
https://www.air-journal.fr/2019-09-2...d-5215063.html
I do not know to which extent this info is more reliable than the one you have posted in the sticky post
Thanks for the link. I have no idea if this is a more reliable date. But knowing how slow AF is to retrofit planes, I think it is safe at the moment to still consider end 2020 as a deadline . And may be we’ll have a good surprise
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Originally Posted by Goldorak
Thanks for the link. I have no idea if this is a more reliable date. But knowing how slow AF is to retrofit planes, I think it is safe at the moment to still consider end 2020 as a deadline . And may be we’ll have a good surprise
Fully agree, should be the “next decade” anyway 😉
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What are the plans for the Non-COI 777-300ERs that are still flying with NEV4 seats? The ones that fly to MIA, GIG, ATL, ... Will they be upgraded at the same time as the COI birds?
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Old Sep 22, 2019, 11:50 pm
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Originally Posted by San Gottardo
What are the plans for the Non-COI 777-300ERs that are still flying with NEV4 seats? The ones that fly to MIA, GIG, ATL, ... Will they be upgraded at the same time as the COI birds?
See in the wiki. Unfortunately no info update since I wrote this.
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BEST cabin to Mauritius?

Hi,
Anyone knows if AF operates a BEST cabin aircraft to Mauritius? (MRU - AF470). Operating aircraft for this route is a 77W. I have checked the wiki and I am guessing this would be part of the 77W COI version (14J) reconfiguration (Zodiac Optima) but I don't know if AF has even begun to reconfigure these aircraft. Thanks
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Originally Posted by Mister P.
Hi,
Anyone knows if AF operates a BEST cabin aircraft to Mauritius? (MRU - AF470). Operating aircraft for this route is a 77W. I have checked the wiki and I am guessing this would be part of the 77W COI version (14J) reconfiguration (Zodiac Optima) but I don't know if AF has even begun to reconfigure these aircraft. Thanks
I don’t think the retrofit of the COI fleet has started.
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