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Old Mar 12, 2018, 1:46 pm
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This wikipost presents an updated summary of AF configurations and plans for deliveries and retrofitting the long-haul fleet with new J (and W) seats. For more details, please refer to the thread below

Last update on 15 JUL 2025

All the long-haul fleet is equipped with lie-flat seats in J. All the long-haul fleet is in 1-2-1 configuration in J with direct aisle access, with the exception of the A332 which are in 2-2-2 configuration.

B772
21 planes, all B772 with the BEST cabins (Zodiac Cirrus seat). A refit programme is nearing completion to standardise the 772 fleet with a 28J 32W 268M configuration, with the final frames in the hanger for refurbishment
- J seating is 1-2-1
- W seat is a hard-shell seat (the 1st generation of W seats installed by AF)
- Seating Config: C28W32Y268

B77W
4P Version with "Old" P (19 planes out of 43 77W : F-GSQA, F-GSQB, F-GSQC, F-GSQF, F-GSQG, F-GSQH, F-GSQI, F-GSQJ, F-GSQK, F-GSQL, F-GSQM, F-GSQU, F-GSQV, F-GSQY, F-GZNA, F-GZNB, F-GZNC, F-GZND, and F-GZNE)
- J seating is 1-2-1 (Zodiac Cirrus seat), aka BEST cabin, same as B772
- W seat is a hard-shell seat (the 1st generation of W seats installed by AF)
- Seating config: F4C58W28Y206

4P Version with "New" P (3 planes : F-GZNK, F-GZNP, F-GZNQ).
[F-GZND arrived @ ORY 08 APR for mods]
- New La Premier cabin with chaise lounge
- New J seat: Safran Cirrus 5C03 suites with a door in a 1-2-1 configuration
- W seat: Recaro PL3530 seats
- Seating config: F4C60W44Y204

COI version (14J) (12 planes out of 43 B77W : F-GSQO, F-GSQP, F-GSQT, F-GSQX, F-GZNG. F-GSQS, F-GZNF, F-GSQR, F-GSQN, F-GZNO, F-GZNL and F-GZNN).
- The J seat is Zodiac Optima (same as chosen for the initial batch of A350), similar to the UA Polaris seat, in a 1-2-1 configuration
- The W seat is the same as in the B789, i.e a hard-shell seat with a very slightly improved version compared to B772 and B77W (version with P).
- Seating config: C14W28Y430

Remaining 77W (9 planes out of 43 B77W : F-GZNS, F-GZNT, F-GZNI, F-GZNR, F-GZNU, F-GZNJ, F-GZNH, F-GSQD and F-GSQE)
- These planes were the former "NEV4" ones. Retrofits started in March 2022 and were completed in June 2024.
- New J seat: Safran Cirrus 5C03 suites with a door in a 1-2-1 configuration
- W seat: Recaro PL3530 seats
- Seating config: C48W48Y273

B789
- Ten planes have been delivered to AF (F-HRBA to F-HRBJ). No further deliveries are planned for AF (the initial order was for 15 frames, but the 5 remaining ones have been assigned to KL).
- J seat is BEST cabins (Zodiac Cirrus seat, slightly smaller than the 777 one, due to fuselage width limitation). The main difference with the B777 is the smaller tablet.
- J seating is 1-2-1
- The W seat is a hard-shell seat with a very slightly improved version compared to B772 and B77W (version with P).
- Seating config: C30W21Y228

A332
- As of 11/2025, only 7 planes remain in service (F-GZCA/F/G/K/M/N/O), but F & N are not flying at the moment, so only 5 are active. They are mostly flying to SXM, BLR, BEY, and some Africa routes (LAD, PNR, BZV, LFW).
- J seating is 2-2-2, with the Stelia Equinoxe seat (a similar seat can be seen in the UX B787).
- The W seat is the same as in the B789, i.e a hard-shell seat with a very slightly improved version compared to B772 and B77W (version with P).
- Seating config: C36W21Y167

A359
39 planes have been delivered as of 11/07/2025:

First batch (20): F-HTYA/B/C/D/E/F/G/H/I/J/K/L/M/N/O/P/Q/R/S/T
- J seat is Zodiac Optima, same as in B77W COI version)
- J seating is 1-2-1
- The W seat is a Recaro recliner seat.
- Seating config: C34W24Y266

Second batch (19/21): F-HUVA/B/C/D/E/F/G/H/I/J/K/L/M/N/O/P/Q/R/S/
- The new seat (Stelia Opera) is a slightly improved version of the BEST seat, with a door for privacy (similar to the one placed in the last batch of retrofitted B77W, with small differences).
- J seating is 1-2-1
- The W seat is a Recaro recliner seat.
- Seating config: C48W32Y212


RETIRED PLANE TYPES
A343
Last plane was withdrawn in 2021.
A388
Last plane was withdrawn in 2020.
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Old Jun 25, 2019 | 12:15 am
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AF A380 entire fleet could exit in 2024

Interesting article (in French) mentioning a highly probable exit of ALL AF A380 planes which implies ... no major retrofit
Decision expected in Sept19

https://thetravelersclub.boardingare...lhorizon-2024/
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Old Jun 26, 2019 | 3:01 am
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Recent article in English on the retrofit of AF A380 fleet
https://liveandletsfly.boardingarea....retrofit-a380/
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The swap of the B787/A350 order between AF and KL is now confirmed. I have updated the wiki.
https://www.euronews.com/2019/06/28/...ficiency-drive
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Originally Posted by Goldorak
The swap of the B787/A350 order between AF and KL is now confirmed. I have updated the wiki.
https://www.euronews.com/2019/06/28/...ficiency-drive
Makes sense to me, and good news for Y flyers like me
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The 1st A350 has just been painted in AF livery in TLS. Still no engines mounted.
https://corporate.airfrance.com/fr/a...rs-dair-france

Obviously, the A350 has the same large "AirFrance" name as on the B787.
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As per the corporate news published today, all A380 will leave the fleet by 2022 and so, will not be retrofitted with new seats. Wiki updated.
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I have had a schedule change from a KL to a AF flight (KL777 to AF787). Most of the seats are still open. What would be the best one for singel traveller. I am now on 2A.
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Originally Posted by Meneer Guggenheimer
I have had a schedule change from a KL to a AF flight (KL777 to AF787). Most of the seats are still open. What would be the best one for singel traveller. I am now on 2A.
good choice.
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Old Sep 21, 2019 | 2:24 am
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@ Goldorak :
yesterday an article on Air Journal claims a retrofit completion of AF 777W COI by the end of summer 2020
https://www.air-journal.fr/2019-09-2...d-5215063.html
I do not know to which extent this info is more reliable than the one you have posted in the sticky post
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@ Goldorak :
yesterday an article on Air Journal claims a retrofit completion of AF 777W COI by the end of summer 2020
https://www.air-journal.fr/2019-09-2...d-5215063.html
I do not know to which extent this info is more reliable than the one you have posted in the sticky post
Thanks for the link. I have no idea if this is a more reliable date. But knowing how slow AF is to retrofit planes, I think it is safe at the moment to still consider end 2020 as a deadline . And may be well have a good surprise
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Originally Posted by Goldorak
Thanks for the link. I have no idea if this is a more reliable date. But knowing how slow AF is to retrofit planes, I think it is safe at the moment to still consider end 2020 as a deadline . And may be well have a good surprise
Fully agree, should be the next decade anyway 😉
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What are the plans for the Non-COI 777-300ERs that are still flying with NEV4 seats? The ones that fly to MIA, GIG, ATL, ... Will they be upgraded at the same time as the COI birds?
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Originally Posted by San Gottardo
What are the plans for the Non-COI 777-300ERs that are still flying with NEV4 seats? The ones that fly to MIA, GIG, ATL, ... Will they be upgraded at the same time as the COI birds?
See in the wiki. Unfortunately no info update since I wrote this.
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BEST cabin to Mauritius?

Hi,
Anyone knows if AF operates a BEST cabin aircraft to Mauritius? (MRU - AF470). Operating aircraft for this route is a 77W. I have checked the wiki and I am guessing this would be part of the 77W COI version (14J) reconfiguration (Zodiac Optima) but I don't know if AF has even begun to reconfigure these aircraft. Thanks
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Hi,
Anyone knows if AF operates a BEST cabin aircraft to Mauritius? (MRU - AF470). Operating aircraft for this route is a 77W. I have checked the wiki and I am guessing this would be part of the 77W COI version (14J) reconfiguration (Zodiac Optima) but I don't know if AF has even begun to reconfigure these aircraft. Thanks
I dont think the retrofit of the COI fleet has started.
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