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updated information about new J seats deployments and other information

Old Mar 12, 2018, 2:46 pm
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This wikipost presents an updated summary of AF plans for retrofitting the long-haul fleet with new J (and W) seats. For more details, please refer to the thread below

Last update on 22 FEB 2024

B772
21 planes. All B772 are already retrofitted with the BEST cabins (Zodiac Cirrus seat). A refit programme is underway to standardise the 772 fleet with a 28J 32W 268M configuration, with refits expected to be complete before summer 2024.
- Seating config 1: C28W32Y268
- Seating config 2: C28W24Y260
- Seating config 3: C40W32Y216

B77W
Version with P (19 planes out of 43 77W): 19/19 completed (F-GSQA, F-GSQB, F-GSQC, F-GSQF, F-GSQG, F-GSQH, F-GSQI, F-GSQJ, F-GSQK, F-GSQL, F-GSQM, F-GSQU, F-GSQV, F-GSQY, F-GZNA, F-GZNB, F-GZNC, F-GZND, and F-GZNE)
- They are already all retrofitted with the BEST cabins (Zodiac Cirrus seat).
- Seating config: F4C58W28Y206

COI version (14J) (12 planes out of 43 B77W): all retrofitted (F-GSQO, F-GSQP, F-GSQT, F-GSQX, F-GZNG. F-GSQS, F-GZNF, F-GSQR, F-GSQN, F-GZNO, F-GZNL and F-GZNN).
- The J seat is Zodiac Optima (same as chosen for the A350), similar to the UA Polaris seat. The config is 1-2-1 and total 14J.
- The W seat is the same as in the B789.
- Seating config: C14W32Y422

Remaining 77W (the 12 planes in NEV4 "loisirs" config (42J)): 10/12 completed (F-GZNK, F-GZNP, F-GZNQ, F-GZNS, F-GZNT, F-GZNI, F-GZNR, F-GZNU, F-GZNJ, and F-GZNH)
- The new seat will be a slightly improved version of the BEST seat, with a door for privacy.
- Retrofits started in March 2022 and are projected to finish by the end of 2023 per AF and other sources.
- Aircraft in retrofit: none
- Aircraft yet to be converted: F-GSQD, F-GSQE (arr. HHN 22 FEB 2024, TBD on scope of visit)
- Seating config: C48W48Y273
- Old config: C42W24Y315

B789
- Direct deliveries with BEST cabins (Zodiac Cirrus seat, slightly smaller than the 777 one, due to fuselage width limitation).
- Ten planes have been delivered to AF (F-HRBA to F-HRBJ).
- AF initially ordered 15 B789, with the remaining to go to KL.
- Seating config: C30W21Y228

A332
- 15 planes. Retrofitted in 2-2-2 with the Stelia Equinoxe seat. A similar seat can be seen in the UX B787. Also, the W seats are the same as the B789.
- More info on A332 retrofit can be found in this thread: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-...-retrofit.html
- Since October 2020, all aircraft have the new cabin.
- Seating config: C36W21Y167

A343
Update 01/2020: Only 4 planes remaining (in Joon livery & interiors : F-GLZK/N/O/P). They will leave the fleet between 03/3020 and end 2021.
All retired per ch-aviation.


A359
- Overall, AF will have 38 A359. 22 planes have been delivered as of 22/09/2023:
First batch (20): F-HTYA/B/C/D/E/F/G/H/I/J/K/L/M/N/O/P/Q/R/S/T
- Direct delivery with Zodiac Optima, similar to UA Polaris seat (see above B777 COI). Config 1-2-1.
- The W seat is a Recaro recliner seat.
- All the A359 ordered for both AF & KL are finally going to AF (while KL will receive all the B789 remaining to be delivered on the AF sub-order).
- As per an information post by frausflyer , the 20th A350 (likely F-HTYT) to be delivered to AF will have a P cabin. https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/33283076-post467.html. However, this eventually did not happen, and F-HTYT has the same cabin as the 19 aircraft that preceded it.
- Seating config: C34W24Y266

Second batch (7/18): F-HUVA/B/C/D/E/F/G
- The 21st A359 (F-HUVA) has the new 48J cabin with small differences compared to the B77W one. According to Aerolopa, it and 17 A350s to follow will not have P.
- Seating config: C48W32Y212

A388
All A380 will leave the fleet by 2022 and so, will not be retrofitted with new seats. F-HPJB is the 1st to leave the fleet : it has been returned to the lessor in January 2020.
All retired June 26 2020 due to COVID-19.


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Old Dec 25, 2019, 3:22 pm
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772/77W

Hi there, does anyone know if all the 772/77W fleet have been updated with the new slimline seats with new IFE? Or are there still a/c with the small screens?

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Old Dec 30, 2019, 5:53 pm
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Anyone know what IFE size screen is on the a/c operating to/from PEK/PVG? very small old screen i.e. COI Size / Small 9'' panasonic white screens / Brand new screens found on the BEST slimline seats. Thanks.

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Old Dec 31, 2019, 4:09 am
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Originally Posted by harer92
Anyone know what IFE size screen is on the a/c operating to/from PEK/PVG? very small old screen i.e. COI Size / Small 9'' panasonic white screens / Brand new screens found on the BEST slimline seats. Thanks.
This is now the third time and second thread you posted this question...

Please stop this.

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Old Dec 31, 2019, 3:40 pm
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I think for 2020, you need to stop dying the little deaths. It's not bothering anyone, stop creating an issue.
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I think for 2020, you need to stop dying the little deaths. It's not bothering anyone, stop creating an issue.
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Unfortunately, triple or double posting is against FT rules. If everyone was double posting, it would be a real mess. So start 2020 with a good resolution.
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I think for 2020, you need to stop dying the little deaths. It's not bothering anyone, stop creating an issue.
I am afraid these are the rules. Thanks for your understanding.

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F-GSQT 777 COI is back to service with new cabins.
3 months to get the job done ! The result is nice (conform to modern expectations I would say) but cabin change is incredibly slow ...
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Old Jan 10, 2020, 12:36 pm
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Originally Posted by Bullspread
F-GSQT 777 COI is back to service with new cabins.
3 months to get the job done ! The result is nice (conform to modern expectations I would say) but cabin change is incredibly slow ...
Thanks a lot. Indeed, very long. But I wonder if they did some kind of maintenance at the same time which could explain the 3 months. Because if we compare to the A332 retrofit, it usually takes one month for a complete retrofit of Y/W/J cabin.
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Doesn't the first plane always take longer than the latter (certifications etc.)?
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Originally Posted by Sjondorn
Doesn't the first plane always take longer than the latter (certifications etc.)?
No idea. Could be.
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Originally Posted by Goldorak
Thanks a lot. Indeed, very long. But I wonder if they did some kind of maintenance at the same time which could explain the 3 months. Because if we compare to the A332 retrofit, it usually takes one month for a complete retrofit of Y/W/J cabin.
i hope youre right Goldorak and that they have ran through a complete round of maintenance ; otherwise the entire 777COI Fleet will not be finalized before a couple of years ...
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According to this article https://www.journal-aviation.com/act...boeing-777-coi they will have refurbished ten 777-300ERs with the new COI cabins and WiFi until the end of the year. Let's hope so...
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Originally Posted by San Gottardo
According to this article https://www.journal-aviation.com/act...boeing-777-coi they will have refurbished ten 777-300ERs with the new COI cabins and WiFi until the end of the year. Let's hope so...
they already promised a lot in the past....
Let see over the next months how quick they are to operate the retro fit.
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I have updated the wiki with last info known for each type in the fleet. If you notice any mistake, please edit the wiki.
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Old Jan 23, 2020, 8:19 am
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Could it be that F-GZNL is being retrofitted right now? According to the database the aircraft had its last flight on 16 January 2020 from ORY to CDG and no flight since.
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