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Aeroplan City Pair mileage (new pseudo-MPM)

Old Oct 30, 2014, 12:48 pm
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="5"%New Aeroplan City Pair mileages:

How to get the MPM online: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28509402-post231.html

Between:

Europe 1-Asia 1:
FRA-NRT: 9642 (q)
NRT-NCE: 10,302 (q)

Europe 1 - Asia 2:
VIE-SGN 8464 (q)
GRZ-DPS 9965 (q)

Europe 2-Asia 1:
DME-NRT: 9,091 -- 7,288(q) (they lowered it??)
DME-KIX: 7,108 (q)
LED-NRT: 7,398 (q)
DME-HKT: 6,249 (q)


Europe 1-North America

Europe 1-Australia
-FRA-SYD: 16700 (RTW:FRA-BKK-SYD-ICN-ORD-YYZ-FRA)
-CDG-PPT: 16065
-CDG-AKL: 18952

Asia 1-Asia 1
-PVG-SIN: 4278 (q)

Asia 2-Asia 1
-MNL-PEK: 2990 (q)

Asia 1-South Pacific
-NRT-RAR: 9170 (q)

Asia 1-Southern South America
-PVG-EZE: 20142 (q)

Asia 2-Northern South America
-SIN-UIO: 20279 (q)


North America-Europe 1
YVR-CPH: 7609 (c)
YVR-ZRH: 8363 (c)
YVR-LYR: 6196 (q)
YVR-TOS: 7164 (q)
YVR-KEF: 8019 (q)
BOS-VCE: 6453 (c)
YYZ-ARN: 6099 (q)
YYC-CPH: 7958 (c)
YVR-DUB: 7609 (c)
LAX-DUB: 8849 (c)
SAN-DUB: 9309 (c)
YVR-CDG: 8383 (c)
SAN-CDG: 10145 (c)
YVR-OSL: 7609 (c)
SAN-OSL: 9627 (c)



North America-Europe 2
YUL-KRR: 8163 (q)
YEG-IST: 9196 (q)
YVR-WAW: 8473
YVR-BUD: 8934
YVR-ATH: 10097
YVR-VKO: 8490 (q)
YVR-IST: 9920 (c)
LAX-IST: 11387 (c)
JFK-IST: 8275 (c)
MIA-IST: 9881 (c)
SFO-IST: 11137 (c)
ORD-IST: 9077 (c)
IAH-IST: 10571 (c)
IAH-BJV: 10767 (c)

North America-Asia 1
-YVR-HKG - 8381 (c)
-YVR-HIJ 7092
-YYC-BKK - 9776 (q)
-YEG-HKG 9113
-YEG-SIN 11377
-YEG-BKK 10382
-YEG-HKG is 9137 (q)
-YEG-SIN is 13447 (q) May 20, 2017

-ORD-BKK - 13753 (q)
-YYZ-BKK - 11055 (q) YYZ-BKK 11905
-YYZ-HND - 9088
-YYZ-NRT - 9049 (q)
-YYZ-ICN - 9297 (q)
-YYZ-PEK - 9228 (q)
-YYZ-HKG - 10957 (q)
-YYZ-OKA - 10200 (q)
-YYZ-TPE - 10544
-YYT-TPE - 10389 (q)
-YYT-HKG - 10576 (q)
-YYT-MFM - 10582 (q)
-ICN-YUL - 9260 (q)
-ICN-YEG - 7351 (q)
-TYO-YUL - 9071 (q)
-OSA-YOW - 9256 (q)

North America-Asia 2
YQB-MNL - 13600
YUL-DPS - 16,240 (q)
YEG-KUL 13301
YEG-PNH 12298
YEG-CNX - 11822
YVR-RGN 12060
YVR-BKK 12150
YVR-SIN 13196
YVR-SGN 12120
YVR-MNL 10854
YVR-HKT - 12824 (q)
YYT-SIN - 14493 (q) Aug 17, 2018
YYT-BKK - 13045 (q)
YYT-SGN - 13585 (q)
YYZ-SIN - 13095 (q)
YYZ-HKT - 12480 (q)
YYZ-DPS - 16293(q) May 22, 2017
SFO-BKK - 13956
YOW-BKK - 12156 as per syntron's post.
SAN-KUL - 14729
SFO-KUL - 14012
KUL-LAX - 14565

North America-Australia, New Zealand
YYZ-SYD: 15540 (q)
YYZ-AKL: 13816 (q)
YYZ-MEL 16210 (q)
YYZ-PER 18050 (q)
YUL-PER 18164 (q)
NYC-PER 18633 (q)
PER-SFO 14714 (q)
BDA-PER 20444 (q)
MEL-YVR 13160 (q)
YEG-MEL 13921 (q)
YEG-AKL 12078 (q)
YEG-PER 14693 (c)
BNE-YVR 11820 (q)
YVR-PER 14765 (q)
SYD-YVR 12417 (q)
JFK-SYD 15965 (q)
JFK-MEL 16669 (q)
YYC-SYD 13,096 (q)
YYC-MEL 13,829 (q)
YYC-BNE 12,468 (q)
YYC-PER 15,384 (q)
MIA-PER 18,230 (q)
MIA-SYD 14,938 (q)
MIA-BNE 14,670 (q)

As per Novagirl17's post, Nov 28, 2016
YHZ-MEL, 17,460
YHZ-SYD, 16,735
YHZ-AKL, 15,068

As per Beavertails on 2018-01-08:
YOW-PER = 18,121
YUL-PER = 18,194
YHZ-PER = 18,462

As per ffsim on 2018-02-14:
YUL-SYD = 15,968

North America-Indian Subcontinent
-YVR-MLE: 14270 (q)


North America-Northern South America

North America-Southern South America
YVR-LIM 8364 (q)
SEA-LIM 8170 (q)
YVR-SCL 10813 (q) Apr 1, 2017
YVR-EZE 11,557 (q) May 10, 2017

North America-East, West & South Africa
YVR-JNB 16362 (q)
YVR-CPT 16108 (q)
YVR-LVI 15420 (q)
YVR-VFA 15474 (q)
YYZ-SEZ 13750 (q)
YVR-MRU 16700 (q)
YVR-SEZ 14956 (q)
YVR-MQX 12844 (q)
YYJ-MRU 16718 (q)
LAX-MRU 18356 (q)
SFO-MRU 17998 (q)
LAX-JNB 16585 (q)
SFO-JNB 16863 (q)
YYZ-SEZ 13750 (q)
YYZ-JNB 13268
JFK-MRU 14790

North America- Middle East
YVR - FRU 9935 (q)
YVR - TAS 10,100




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Aeroplan City Pair mileage (new pseudo-MPM)

Old Aug 5, 2016, 12:40 am
  #136  
 
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Originally Posted by Shanqx
So this new pseudo MPM only has one value, meaning there is no direction restriction on TA/TP any more?
that is correct
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Old Aug 5, 2016, 7:29 am
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Originally Posted by w000t
that is correct
Thanks!

but the pseudo-mpm is forcing you to travel the shorter direction.
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Old Aug 11, 2016, 4:38 pm
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Just booked YYC-SIN, forgot the exact mileage, but it was 12,4xx
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Old Sep 9, 2016, 11:01 am
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I am planning to book AMS-IST-JFK/ORD-CVG/DAY, does anyone know if this will be allowed or not?
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Old Sep 30, 2016, 7:36 pm
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YYZ-PEK

Agent informed me that MPM for YYZ-PEK is 9228.
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Old Sep 30, 2016, 7:56 pm
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Originally Posted by flyer05
Agent informed me that MPM for YYZ-PEK is 9228.
Please add it to the wiki.
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Old Oct 12, 2016, 12:13 am
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Smile Bne-yvr = 11,820

Just spoke to an agent. BNE-YVR is 11,820 miles

BNE-AKL-NRT-YVR = 11,574 Booya
BNE-SIN-NRT-YVR = 11,814 Now that's close! <2nd EDIT:Not bookable >

EDIT: Can't add to wiki as I don't have 90 posts. Someone please add?

2nd EDIT: Ok so I called again and actually booked. Here is updated info.

Other agent confirmed that BNE-YVR was actually 11,800
Interesting fact GCmap said BNE-AKL-NRT-YVR was 11,831 but AP said it was 11,847. Must be slightly off. Pretty darn close though

BNE-YYJ she said is 11,764

But I was able to book the following:

AC) YVR-BNE (stop)
NZ) BNE-CHC (Destination)
NZ) WLG-AKL (Open-jaw)
NZ) AKL-NRT
AC) NRT-YVR

She said the MPM for that route back is 11,935? Must be CHC-YVR MPM?
$609 per person YQ (That damn YVR-BNE route is $465! YQ)

But alas I get to go home for Xmas and get a few days in NZ on the way back. That will do me

Last edited by mdmclean88; Oct 12, 2016 at 5:21 pm
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Old Oct 29, 2016, 4:24 pm
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Sorry if already posted, but if not,

YYZ-FRA is 7013

Just booked an LH O ticket with a layover in MIA.
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Old Oct 31, 2016, 9:48 am
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Originally Posted by mdmclean88
But I was able to book the following:

AC) YVR-BNE (stop)
NZ) BNE-CHC (Destination)
NZ) WLG-AKL (Open-jaw)
NZ) AKL-NRT
AC) NRT-YVR

She said the MPM for that route back is 11,935? Must be CHC-YVR MPM?
$609 per person YQ (That damn YVR-BNE route is $465! YQ)

But alas I get to go home for Xmas and get a few days in NZ on the way back. That will do me
Interesting. 1 stop and 1 Open-jaw. Can we do that now?
I thought it was always 2 stops or 1 open-jaw.
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Old Oct 31, 2016, 4:26 pm
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Originally Posted by Shanqx
Interesting. 1 stop and 1 Open-jaw. Can we do that now?
I thought it was always 2 stops or 1 open-jaw.
I read that as one stop and one open jaw. He stops in BNE, then stops in CHC, goes by himself to WLG and then continues nonstop from there. This means the furthest point is likely CHC and not BNE (so the quoted MPM is YVR-CHC).
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Old Nov 23, 2016, 3:18 pm
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Originally Posted by Pseudo Nim
I read that as one stop and one open jaw. He stops in BNE, then stops in CHC, goes by himself to WLG and then continues nonstop from there. This means the furthest point is likely CHC and not BNE (so the quoted MPM is YVR-CHC).
Correct. This route has BNE as stop, CHC as destination and CHC-WLG is me finding my own way between those two airports - open jaw

@Shanqx
AP allows:
2 stops OR
1 stop AND 1 Open Jaw

on inter-continental route.

AP Routing Rules
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Old Nov 24, 2016, 11:03 am
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I was given 13956 for SFO-BKK. BKK-MUC-LAX-SFO was under 11k, so there's quite a bit of room to work with there.
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Old Nov 24, 2016, 11:07 am
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Originally Posted by canadiancow
I was given 13956 for SFO-BKK. BKK-MUC-LAX-SFO was under 11k, so there's quite a bit of room to work with there.
Holy! That's super generous. Thanks for the info.
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Old Nov 28, 2016, 2:57 pm
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YHZ-MEL, 17,460
YHZ-SYD, 16,735
YHZ-AKL, 15,068

YYZ-AKL, 15,108 (this is what I was given, use w caution, it seems like an error, or I don't understand why via the hub YYZ is more than YHZ, which is further, and requires an additional segment)

Last edited by Novagirl17; Nov 28, 2016 at 3:12 pm
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Old Dec 31, 2016, 4:20 am
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So I'm still a bit confused as to how this all works.

What I'm thinking of booking is YVR-JNB-BKK-YVR. Alternatively, I'd be interested in YVR-LED-BKK-YVR (in either order).

So I called today and had...
YVR-LHR-JNB-ADD-DXB-BKK-ICN-LAX-YVR (total 26,824)
denied.

But...
YVR-LHR-JNB-BKK-ICN-LAX-YVR (total 25,284)
Approved.

Did I really go over with the extra 1,600? Or am I doing something wrong? I still can never tell if I'm ok or not unless the flights are in kind of a straight line.

So as I said I'm also interested in YVR-LED-BKK-YVR...what I'm looking at is like...

YVR-PEK-BKK-ZRH-LED-WAW-YYZ-YVR or something like that. But based on the lines on gcmap, I can't imagine it would be approved, so I tried to straighten it up a bit. YVR-PEK-BKK-ARN-LED-WAW-YYZ-YVR. Would either of these work? If not, is there a way to include these 2 cities together, or is it just a non-starter?

YVR-NRT-BKK-IST-ZAG-LED-ARN-PEK-YVR?
YVR-NRT-BKK-IST-ZAG-LED-CPH-YYZ-YVR?

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