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="5"%New Aeroplan City Pair mileages:

How to get the MPM online: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28509402-post231.html

Between:

Europe 1-Asia 1:
FRA-NRT: 9642 (q)
NRT-NCE: 10,302 (q)

Europe 1 - Asia 2:
VIE-SGN 8464 (q)
GRZ-DPS 9965 (q)

Europe 2-Asia 1:
DME-NRT: ~~9,091~~ -- 7,288(q) (they lowered it??)
DME-KIX: 7,108 (q)
LED-NRT: 7,398 (q)
DME-HKT: 6,249 (q)

Europe 1-North America

Europe 1-Australia
-FRA-SYD: 16700 (RTW:FRA-BKK-SYD-ICN-ORD-YYZ-FRA)
-CDG-PPT: 16065
-CDG-AKL: 18952

Asia 1-Asia 1
-PVG-SIN: 4278 (q)

Asia 2-Asia 1
-MNL-PEK: 2990 (q)

Asia 1-South Pacific
-NRT-RAR: 9170 (q)

Asia 1-Southern South America
-PVG-EZE: 20142 (q)

Asia 2-Northern South America
-SIN-UIO: 20279 (q)

North America-Europe 1
YVR-CPH: 7609 (c)
YVR-ZRH: 8363 (c)
YVR-LYR: 6196 (q)
YVR-TOS: 7164 (q)
YVR-KEF: 8019 (q)
BOS-VCE: 6453 (c)
YYZ-ARN: 6099 (q)
YYC-CPH: 7958 (c)
YVR-DUB: 7609 (c)
LAX-DUB: 8849 (c)
SAN-DUB: 9309 (c)
YVR-CDG: 8383 (c)
SAN-CDG: 10145 (c)
YVR-OSL: 7609 (c)
SAN-OSL: 9627 (c)

North America-Europe 2
YUL-KRR: 8163 (q)
YEG-IST: 9196 (q)
YVR-WAW: 8473
YVR-BUD: 8934
YVR-ATH: 10097
YVR-VKO: 8490 (q)
YVR-IST: 9920 (c)
LAX-IST: 11387 (c)
JFK-IST: 8275 (c)
MIA-IST: 9881 (c)
SFO-IST: 11137 (c)
ORD-IST: 9077 (c)
IAH-IST: 10571 (c)
IAH-BJV: 10767 (c)

North America-Asia 1
-YVR-HKG - 8381 (c)
-YVR-HIJ 7092
-YYC-BKK - 9776 (q)
-YEG-HKG 9113
-YEG-SIN 11377
-YEG-BKK 10382
-YEG-HKG is 9137 (q)
-YEG-SIN is 13447 (q) May 20, 2017
-ORD-BKK - 13753 (q)
-YYZ-BKK - 11055 (q) YYZ-BKK 11905
-YYZ-HND - 9088
-YYZ-NRT - 9049 (q)
-YYZ-ICN - 9297 (q)
-YYZ-PEK - 9228 (q)
-YYZ-HKG - 10957 (q)
-YYZ-OKA - 10200 (q)
-YYZ-TPE - 10544
-YYT-TPE - 10389 (q)
-YYT-HKG - 10576 (q)
-YYT-MFM - 10582 (q)
-ICN-YUL - 9260 (q)
-ICN-YEG - 7351 (q)
-TYO-YUL - 9071 (q)
-OSA-YOW - 9256 (q)

North America-Asia 2
YQB-MNL - 13600
YUL-DPS - 16,240 (q)
YEG-KUL 13301
YEG-PNH 12298
YEG-CNX - 11822
YVR-RGN 12060
YVR-BKK 12150
YVR-SIN 13196
YVR-SGN 12120
YVR-MNL 10854
YVR-HKT - 12824 (q)
YYT-SIN - 14493 (q) Aug 17, 2018
YYT-BKK - 13045 (q)
YYT-SGN - 13585 (q)
YYZ-SIN - 13095 (q)
YYZ-HKT - 12480 (q)
YYZ-DPS - 16293(q) May 22, 2017
SFO-BKK - 13956
YOW-BKK - 12156 as per syntron's post.
SAN-KUL - 14729
SFO-KUL - 14012
KUL-LAX - 14565

North America-Australia, New Zealand
YYZ-SYD: 15540 (q)
YYZ-AKL: 13816 (q)
YYZ-MEL 16210 (q)
YYZ-PER 18050 (q)
YUL-PER 18164 (q)
NYC-PER 18633 (q)
PER-SFO 14714 (q)
BDA-PER 20444 (q)
MEL-YVR 13160 (q)
YEG-MEL 13921 (q)
YEG-AKL 12078 (q)
YEG-PER 14693 (c)
BNE-YVR 11820 (q)
YVR-PER 14765 (q)
SYD-YVR 12417 (q)
JFK-SYD 15965 (q)
JFK-MEL 16669 (q)
YYC-SYD 13,096 (q)
YYC-MEL 13,829 (q)
YYC-BNE 12,468 (q)
YYC-PER 15,384 (q)
MIA-PER 18,230 (q)
MIA-SYD 14,938 (q)
MIA-BNE 14,670 (q)

As per Novagirl17's post, Nov 28, 2016
YHZ-MEL, 17,460
YHZ-SYD, 16,735
YHZ-AKL, 15,068

As per Beavertails on 2018-01-08:
YOW-PER = 18,121
YUL-PER = 18,194
YHZ-PER = 18,462

As per ffsim on 2018-02-14:
YUL-SYD = 15,968

North America-Indian Subcontinent
-YVR-MLE: 14270 (q)

North America-Northern South America

North America-Southern South America
YVR-LIM 8364 (q)
SEA-LIM 8170 (q)
YVR-SCL 10813 (q) Apr 1, 2017
YVR-EZE 11,557 (q) May 10, 2017

North America-East, West & South Africa
YVR-JNB 16362 (q)
YVR-CPT 16108 (q)
YVR-LVI 15420 (q)
YVR-VFA 15474 (q)
YYZ-SEZ 13750 (q)
YVR-MRU 16700 (q)
YVR-SEZ 14956 (q)
YVR-MQX 12844 (q)
YYJ-MRU 16718 (q)
LAX-MRU 18356 (q)
SFO-MRU 17998 (q)
LAX-JNB 16585 (q)
SFO-JNB 16863 (q)
YYZ-SEZ 13750 (q)
YYZ-JNB 13268
JFK-MRU 14790

North America- Middle East
YVR - FRU 9935 (q)
YVR - TAS 10,100

Aeroplan City Pair mileage (new pseudo-MPM)

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Mar 17, 2015, 9:21 pm

#46

capitolien

Join Date: Mar 2015

Programs: Aeroplan

Posts: 4

Try to book a flight from YOW to SIN then NRT or KIX and finally a stop in GVA.

I have been quoted flight through Newark for Singapore and no matter flights I chose from SIN to Japan and back to GVA and YOW, I am not allow to do it I am shy of few hundred miles.

Any idea or tip to make it happen?

Thanks in advance

Mar 17, 2015, 9:31 pm

#47

Pseudo Nim

Join Date: Jan 2006

Location: In the air

Programs: Occasional RTW club

Posts: 6,924

Quote:

Originally Posted by capitolien

What did not work? The outbound or the return? What routings did you try?

Mar 18, 2015, 6:45 am

#48

capitolien

Join Date: Mar 2015

Programs: Aeroplan

Posts: 4

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pseudo Nim

What did not work? The outbound or the return? What routings did you try?

Thank you for getting back to me

.

The routing was:
YOW-EWR-SIN with UA or through London and or FRA.
The mileage was around ~11,000 miles (quoted).

On my way back, stopping in SIN-OSA or SIN-NRT and then NRT-MUN-GVA or via IST and GVA-YUL-YOW was not allowed for few miles.

ICN instead of Japan was accepted though. FUK was OK theoretically but since it is not a main hub, the extra connections to reach GVA added extra miles and it was refused.

My plan is to go in SouthEast Asia in Feb/Mar 2016 then Japan in April and then Europe from May 2016.

As a note, they allow me to stop in Japan on my way to Singapore and then back to GVA, but that means I will be in Japan during winter ...

Thanks

Mar 18, 2015, 6:51 am

#49

Pseudo Nim

Join Date: Jan 2006

Location: In the air

Programs: Occasional RTW club

Posts: 6,924

Quote:

Originally Posted by capitolien

Thank you for getting back to me

Wow, that's annoying.

My usual redemption used to be YUL-SIN, stop, SIN-(Japan), stop, Japan-Europe. Guess that's dead now. So you were allowed to do something like YOW-FRA-KIX-SIN, SIN-GVA, GVA-YOW?

Mar 18, 2015, 7:07 am

#50

capitolien

Join Date: Mar 2015

Programs: Aeroplan

Posts: 4

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pseudo Nim

Wow, that's annoying.

My usual redemption used to be YUL-SIN, stop, SIN-(Japan), stop, Japan-Europe. Guess that's dead now. So you were allowed to do something like YOW-FRA-KIX-SIN, SIN-GVA, GVA-YOW?

I read many people did it in the past and I used that as a reference for pushing Aeroplan CSR to find a way. He was not too cooperative to search all possible routes.

So if you have any route that works in the past I may try .

My approved route is:

YOW-EWR-NRT with UA
NRT-SIN direct with Singapore Air
SIN-ZRH-GVA with Swiss
GVA-YUL-YOW or GVA-VIE-YYT-YOW with AC

for ~CAN$450 (taxes and surcharges) in Economy.

Mar 18, 2015, 11:05 am

#51

yerffej201

Join Date: Nov 2011

Posts: 6,385

Has anyone tried a west-coast to asia via europe? Or is that not possible now?

Mar 29, 2015, 9:00 am

#52

Eternity000

Join Date: Oct 2009

Location: All over the great white north

Programs: AC E50K

Posts: 652

I just called for my YUL-DPS. 16,240 Miles permitted ... Much higher than the previous 14,324 over the Atlantic or 12,879 over the Pacific!

Mar 29, 2015, 10:57 am

#53

Argonaut1000

Join Date: May 2001

Location: YVR

Programs: AC SEMM

Posts: 2,072

Quote:

Originally Posted by yerffej201

Has anyone tried a west-coast to asia via europe? Or is that not possible now?

Haven't tried it but there are paid fares now available via the Atlantic. For example there is a YVR-HKG fare that allows a MPN of 13,633 miles.

Mar 29, 2015, 11:04 am

#54

Argonaut1000

Join Date: May 2001

Location: YVR

Programs: AC SEMM

Posts: 2,072

duplicate

Apr 6, 2015, 4:50 pm

#55

yerffej201

Join Date: Nov 2011

Posts: 6,385

I think the new MPM's for cities close to each other is actually a lot better than the previous system. I booked CPH-VIE-FRA-MUC-SFO-YVR, which is 20/25M.