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Old Oct 30, 2014, 12:48 pm
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="5"%New Aeroplan City Pair mileages:

How to get the MPM online: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28509402-post231.html

Between:

Europe 1-Asia 1:
FRA-NRT: 9642 (q)
NRT-NCE: 10,302 (q)

Europe 1 - Asia 2:
VIE-SGN 8464 (q)
GRZ-DPS 9965 (q)

Europe 2-Asia 1:
DME-NRT: 9,091 -- 7,288(q) (they lowered it??)
DME-KIX: 7,108 (q)
LED-NRT: 7,398 (q)
DME-HKT: 6,249 (q)


Europe 1-North America

Europe 1-Australia
-FRA-SYD: 16700 (RTW:FRA-BKK-SYD-ICN-ORD-YYZ-FRA)
-CDG-PPT: 16065
-CDG-AKL: 18952

Asia 1-Asia 1
-PVG-SIN: 4278 (q)

Asia 2-Asia 1
-MNL-PEK: 2990 (q)

Asia 1-South Pacific
-NRT-RAR: 9170 (q)

Asia 1-Southern South America
-PVG-EZE: 20142 (q)

Asia 2-Northern South America
-SIN-UIO: 20279 (q)


North America-Europe 1
YVR-CPH: 7609 (c)
YVR-ZRH: 8363 (c)
YVR-LYR: 6196 (q)
YVR-TOS: 7164 (q)
YVR-KEF: 8019 (q)
BOS-VCE: 6453 (c)
YYZ-ARN: 6099 (q)
YYC-CPH: 7958 (c)
YVR-DUB: 7609 (c)
LAX-DUB: 8849 (c)
SAN-DUB: 9309 (c)
YVR-CDG: 8383 (c)
SAN-CDG: 10145 (c)
YVR-OSL: 7609 (c)
SAN-OSL: 9627 (c)



North America-Europe 2
YUL-KRR: 8163 (q)
YEG-IST: 9196 (q)
YVR-WAW: 8473
YVR-BUD: 8934
YVR-ATH: 10097
YVR-VKO: 8490 (q)
YVR-IST: 9920 (c)
LAX-IST: 11387 (c)
JFK-IST: 8275 (c)
MIA-IST: 9881 (c)
SFO-IST: 11137 (c)
ORD-IST: 9077 (c)
IAH-IST: 10571 (c)
IAH-BJV: 10767 (c)

North America-Asia 1
-YVR-HKG - 8381 (c)
-YVR-HIJ 7092
-YYC-BKK - 9776 (q)
-YEG-HKG 9113
-YEG-SIN 11377
-YEG-BKK 10382
-YEG-HKG is 9137 (q)
-YEG-SIN is 13447 (q) May 20, 2017

-ORD-BKK - 13753 (q)
-YYZ-BKK - 11055 (q) YYZ-BKK 11905
-YYZ-HND - 9088
-YYZ-NRT - 9049 (q)
-YYZ-ICN - 9297 (q)
-YYZ-PEK - 9228 (q)
-YYZ-HKG - 10957 (q)
-YYZ-OKA - 10200 (q)
-YYZ-TPE - 10544
-YYT-TPE - 10389 (q)
-YYT-HKG - 10576 (q)
-YYT-MFM - 10582 (q)
-ICN-YUL - 9260 (q)
-ICN-YEG - 7351 (q)
-TYO-YUL - 9071 (q)
-OSA-YOW - 9256 (q)

North America-Asia 2
YQB-MNL - 13600
YUL-DPS - 16,240 (q)
YEG-KUL 13301
YEG-PNH 12298
YEG-CNX - 11822
YVR-RGN 12060
YVR-BKK 12150
YVR-SIN 13196
YVR-SGN 12120
YVR-MNL 10854
YVR-HKT - 12824 (q)
YYT-SIN - 14493 (q) Aug 17, 2018
YYT-BKK - 13045 (q)
YYT-SGN - 13585 (q)
YYZ-SIN - 13095 (q)
YYZ-HKT - 12480 (q)
YYZ-DPS - 16293(q) May 22, 2017
SFO-BKK - 13956
YOW-BKK - 12156 as per syntron's post.
SAN-KUL - 14729
SFO-KUL - 14012
KUL-LAX - 14565

North America-Australia, New Zealand
YYZ-SYD: 15540 (q)
YYZ-AKL: 13816 (q)
YYZ-MEL 16210 (q)
YYZ-PER 18050 (q)
YUL-PER 18164 (q)
NYC-PER 18633 (q)
PER-SFO 14714 (q)
BDA-PER 20444 (q)
MEL-YVR 13160 (q)
YEG-MEL 13921 (q)
YEG-AKL 12078 (q)
YEG-PER 14693 (c)
BNE-YVR 11820 (q)
YVR-PER 14765 (q)
SYD-YVR 12417 (q)
JFK-SYD 15965 (q)
JFK-MEL 16669 (q)
YYC-SYD 13,096 (q)
YYC-MEL 13,829 (q)
YYC-BNE 12,468 (q)
YYC-PER 15,384 (q)
MIA-PER 18,230 (q)
MIA-SYD 14,938 (q)
MIA-BNE 14,670 (q)

As per Novagirl17's post, Nov 28, 2016
YHZ-MEL, 17,460
YHZ-SYD, 16,735
YHZ-AKL, 15,068

As per Beavertails on 2018-01-08:
YOW-PER = 18,121
YUL-PER = 18,194
YHZ-PER = 18,462

As per ffsim on 2018-02-14:
YUL-SYD = 15,968

North America-Indian Subcontinent
-YVR-MLE: 14270 (q)


North America-Northern South America

North America-Southern South America
YVR-LIM 8364 (q)
SEA-LIM 8170 (q)
YVR-SCL 10813 (q) Apr 1, 2017
YVR-EZE 11,557 (q) May 10, 2017

North America-East, West & South Africa
YVR-JNB 16362 (q)
YVR-CPT 16108 (q)
YVR-LVI 15420 (q)
YVR-VFA 15474 (q)
YYZ-SEZ 13750 (q)
YVR-MRU 16700 (q)
YVR-SEZ 14956 (q)
YVR-MQX 12844 (q)
YYJ-MRU 16718 (q)
LAX-MRU 18356 (q)
SFO-MRU 17998 (q)
LAX-JNB 16585 (q)
SFO-JNB 16863 (q)
YYZ-SEZ 13750 (q)
YYZ-JNB 13268
JFK-MRU 14790

North America- Middle East
YVR - FRU 9935 (q)
YVR - TAS 10,100




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Aeroplan City Pair mileage (new pseudo-MPM)

Old Oct 11, 2020, 10:07 pm
  #376  
 
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Originally Posted by jerryhung
I think I saw your mRTW in FB group too (加拿大里程那個), congrats, sure hope Australia opens up by then.
So glad I visited Sydney and NZ this Feb, just before Covid-19 went nuts
that's great, I always hoping I can visit NSW and Brisbane again, as AU is now open to NZ, so I know the AU border is no longer a concrete, let's wish CDN can be included in the travel bubble soon.
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Old Oct 11, 2020, 10:25 pm
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Originally Posted by terencelai
Finally able to pieces all legs together from YYZ to SYD, both directions are well above 16300 miles each way, I believe this is the best way to max out the MPM for a itinerary from Toronto to Sydney, in a Mini-RTW format 😀
I hope the TPE-IST-YYZ legs are in J.... Otherwise, that's an awful lot of Y flying for a J award.
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Old Oct 11, 2020, 10:30 pm
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Originally Posted by pentiumvi
I hope the TPE-IST-YYZ legs are in J.... Otherwise, that's an awful lot of Y flying for a J award.
yes, in J, definitely will not travel long haul in Y when doing a business class redemption, and that's bring up a weird question, why TK segments don't have cabin class coded on the Aeroplan tickets regardless they are either Y or J. I have economy TK leg from PRG to IST also has no cabin class coded on another separate reward ticket.
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Old Oct 12, 2020, 1:23 pm
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Originally Posted by terencelai
Finally able to pieces all legs together from YYZ to SYD, both directions are well above 16300 miles each way, I believe this is the best way to max out the MPM for a itinerary from Toronto to Sydney, in a Mini-RTW format 😀
Originally Posted by pentiumvi
I hope the TPE-IST-YYZ legs are in J.... Otherwise, that's an awful lot of Y flying for a J award.
I think a more important point is that after November 8, any voluntary change is going to be subject to the new rules. And you will no longer be able to stand by for J at the airport. So unless you can get everything in J before then, you're either going to be paying the new prices, or flying YVR-HKG in PY, TYO-SYD in Y, and SYD-ICN in Y.

Normally I wouldn't blink at 10 hour Y segments on a trip booked 10 months out, but it just doesn't make sense to book things right now that you're not actually willing to fly, or have baked in such tight connections (which you don't have) that schedule changes are guaranteed to screw up your booking.
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Old Oct 12, 2020, 2:17 pm
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Originally Posted by canadiancow
I think a more important point is that after November 8, any voluntary change is going to be subject to the new rules. And you will no longer be able to stand by for J at the airport. So unless you can get everything in J before then, you're either going to be paying the new prices, or flying YVR-HKG in PY, TYO-SYD in Y, and SYD-ICN in Y.

Normally I wouldn't blink at 10 hour Y segments on a trip booked 10 months out, but it just doesn't make sense to book things right now that you're not actually willing to fly, or have baked in such tight connections (which you don't have) that schedule changes are guaranteed to screw up your booking.
I was being told otherwise when I booked it, as long as not shifting from one reward category to another, no routing change, no flight change, a simple replacing Y with a J seat on a business cabin reward ticket will not cause or trigger the whole itinerary to reprice with the new program structure, but if you said the Aeroplan agent is wrong, I will take your word assuming if you're correct.

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Old Oct 12, 2020, 2:43 pm
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Originally Posted by terencelai
I was being told otherwise when I booked it, as long as not shifting from one reward category to another, no routing change, no flight change, a simple replacing Y with a J seat on a business cabin reward ticket will not cause or trigger the whole itinerary to reprice with the new program structure, but if you said the Aeroplan agent is wrong, I will take your word.
It is possible that a change of that nature will not reprice. No one knows for sure yet. But you won't be able to switch dates/flights to get J.
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Old Oct 12, 2020, 2:50 pm
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Originally Posted by canadiancow
It is possible that a change of that nature will not reprice. No one knows for sure yet. But you won't be able to switch dates/flights to get J.
All I can say is that there are times your schedule 📅 is more imprtant than anything else, maybe this does not apply to you, but I do believe there are people do travel on purpose, not only just for leisure, and therefore have to plan ahead with a set schedule. Keyword is there are times your time is more valuable than a siting in front of your PC keep flipping the dates and search for business reward availability.
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Old Oct 12, 2020, 2:54 pm
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Originally Posted by terencelai
All I can say is that there are times your schedule 📅 is more imprtant than anything else, maybe this does not apply to you, but I do believe there are people do travel on purpose, not only just for leisure, and therefore have to plan ahead with a set schedule.
Absolutely, but I'm sure the YYZ-HKG non-stop would fit the original schedule. I'm not familiar enough with the other routes to know alternatives, but I think the only minirtw I've flown without any changes was booked 2.5 hours before departure. Inevitably something different (not better, not worse, just a different airline or routing) opens up with the cabin I want.
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Old Oct 12, 2020, 3:07 pm
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Originally Posted by canadiancow
Absolutely, but I'm sure the YYZ-HKG non-stop would fit the original schedule. I'm not familiar enough with the other routes to know alternatives, but I think the only minirtw I've flown without any changes was booked 2.5 hours before departure. Inevitably something different (not better, not worse, just a different airline or routing) opens up with the cabin I want.
Earlier this year, right before pandemic, was sitting at AC 015 and did a screen capture at 10:33AM when the aircraft still sits at taxi way when the original departure time was at 9:35AM, and of course I feel bad for a couple guys who arrived HKG late and did not make it to their flights going to Depensar, to be honest, you take full responsibility if you misconnect when you make yourself only has less two hours to connect Internationally and I am pretty sure you know this better than me. Your comment involves some speculation which contradictory to what I went through in the past. Making it a legal connection does not guarantee to give you any buffer if your inbound flight is coming late, my prefer time to connect internationally is usually between 2~3hours whenever is possible.

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