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Old Oct 30, 2014, 12:48 pm
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="5"%New Aeroplan City Pair mileages:

How to get the MPM online: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28509402-post231.html

Between:

Europe 1-Asia 1:
FRA-NRT: 9642 (q)
NRT-NCE: 10,302 (q)

Europe 1 - Asia 2:
VIE-SGN 8464 (q)
GRZ-DPS 9965 (q)

Europe 2-Asia 1:
DME-NRT: 9,091 -- 7,288(q) (they lowered it??)
DME-KIX: 7,108 (q)
LED-NRT: 7,398 (q)
DME-HKT: 6,249 (q)


Europe 1-North America

Europe 1-Australia
-FRA-SYD: 16700 (RTW:FRA-BKK-SYD-ICN-ORD-YYZ-FRA)
-CDG-PPT: 16065
-CDG-AKL: 18952

Asia 1-Asia 1
-PVG-SIN: 4278 (q)

Asia 2-Asia 1
-MNL-PEK: 2990 (q)

Asia 1-South Pacific
-NRT-RAR: 9170 (q)

Asia 1-Southern South America
-PVG-EZE: 20142 (q)

Asia 2-Northern South America
-SIN-UIO: 20279 (q)


North America-Europe 1
YVR-CPH: 7609 (c)
YVR-ZRH: 8363 (c)
YVR-LYR: 6196 (q)
YVR-TOS: 7164 (q)
YVR-KEF: 8019 (q)
BOS-VCE: 6453 (c)
YYZ-ARN: 6099 (q)
YYC-CPH: 7958 (c)
YVR-DUB: 7609 (c)
LAX-DUB: 8849 (c)
SAN-DUB: 9309 (c)
YVR-CDG: 8383 (c)
SAN-CDG: 10145 (c)
YVR-OSL: 7609 (c)
SAN-OSL: 9627 (c)



North America-Europe 2
YUL-KRR: 8163 (q)
YEG-IST: 9196 (q)
YVR-WAW: 8473
YVR-BUD: 8934
YVR-ATH: 10097
YVR-VKO: 8490 (q)
YVR-IST: 9920 (c)
LAX-IST: 11387 (c)
JFK-IST: 8275 (c)
MIA-IST: 9881 (c)
SFO-IST: 11137 (c)
ORD-IST: 9077 (c)
IAH-IST: 10571 (c)
IAH-BJV: 10767 (c)

North America-Asia 1
-YVR-HKG - 8381 (c)
-YVR-HIJ 7092
-YYC-BKK - 9776 (q)
-YEG-HKG 9113
-YEG-SIN 11377
-YEG-BKK 10382
-YEG-HKG is 9137 (q)
-YEG-SIN is 13447 (q) May 20, 2017

-ORD-BKK - 13753 (q)
-YYZ-BKK - 11055 (q) YYZ-BKK 11905
-YYZ-HND - 9088
-YYZ-NRT - 9049 (q)
-YYZ-ICN - 9297 (q)
-YYZ-PEK - 9228 (q)
-YYZ-HKG - 10957 (q)
-YYZ-OKA - 10200 (q)
-YYZ-TPE - 10544
-YYT-TPE - 10389 (q)
-YYT-HKG - 10576 (q)
-YYT-MFM - 10582 (q)
-ICN-YUL - 9260 (q)
-ICN-YEG - 7351 (q)
-TYO-YUL - 9071 (q)
-OSA-YOW - 9256 (q)

North America-Asia 2
YQB-MNL - 13600
YUL-DPS - 16,240 (q)
YEG-KUL 13301
YEG-PNH 12298
YEG-CNX - 11822
YVR-RGN 12060
YVR-BKK 12150
YVR-SIN 13196
YVR-SGN 12120
YVR-MNL 10854
YVR-HKT - 12824 (q)
YYT-SIN - 14493 (q) Aug 17, 2018
YYT-BKK - 13045 (q)
YYT-SGN - 13585 (q)
YYZ-SIN - 13095 (q)
YYZ-HKT - 12480 (q)
YYZ-DPS - 16293(q) May 22, 2017
SFO-BKK - 13956
YOW-BKK - 12156 as per syntron's post.
SAN-KUL - 14729
SFO-KUL - 14012
KUL-LAX - 14565

North America-Australia, New Zealand
YYZ-SYD: 15540 (q)
YYZ-AKL: 13816 (q)
YYZ-MEL 16210 (q)
YYZ-PER 18050 (q)
YUL-PER 18164 (q)
NYC-PER 18633 (q)
PER-SFO 14714 (q)
BDA-PER 20444 (q)
MEL-YVR 13160 (q)
YEG-MEL 13921 (q)
YEG-AKL 12078 (q)
YEG-PER 14693 (c)
BNE-YVR 11820 (q)
YVR-PER 14765 (q)
SYD-YVR 12417 (q)
JFK-SYD 15965 (q)
JFK-MEL 16669 (q)
YYC-SYD 13,096 (q)
YYC-MEL 13,829 (q)
YYC-BNE 12,468 (q)
YYC-PER 15,384 (q)
MIA-PER 18,230 (q)
MIA-SYD 14,938 (q)
MIA-BNE 14,670 (q)

As per Novagirl17's post, Nov 28, 2016
YHZ-MEL, 17,460
YHZ-SYD, 16,735
YHZ-AKL, 15,068

As per Beavertails on 2018-01-08:
YOW-PER = 18,121
YUL-PER = 18,194
YHZ-PER = 18,462

As per ffsim on 2018-02-14:
YUL-SYD = 15,968

North America-Indian Subcontinent
-YVR-MLE: 14270 (q)


North America-Northern South America

North America-Southern South America
YVR-LIM 8364 (q)
SEA-LIM 8170 (q)
YVR-SCL 10813 (q) Apr 1, 2017
YVR-EZE 11,557 (q) May 10, 2017

North America-East, West & South Africa
YVR-JNB 16362 (q)
YVR-CPT 16108 (q)
YVR-LVI 15420 (q)
YVR-VFA 15474 (q)
YYZ-SEZ 13750 (q)
YVR-MRU 16700 (q)
YVR-SEZ 14956 (q)
YVR-MQX 12844 (q)
YYJ-MRU 16718 (q)
LAX-MRU 18356 (q)
SFO-MRU 17998 (q)
LAX-JNB 16585 (q)
SFO-JNB 16863 (q)
YYZ-SEZ 13750 (q)
YYZ-JNB 13268
JFK-MRU 14790

North America- Middle East
YVR - FRU 9935 (q)
YVR - TAS 10,100




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Aeroplan City Pair mileage (new pseudo-MPM)

Old Dec 9, 2018, 4:42 pm
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Originally Posted by ChrisA330
Your routing is an open jaw. If you have an OJ, you get one less stopover. Overland is not a type of ticket, it's just a description of the segment between the open jaw.
Have you read the other thread where I posted a SUCCESSFULLY VALIDATED AND TICKETED award with the overland segment in it and still have 2 stopovers and a Point of Turnaround?

I also read about other examples right on the various threads in the AC forum, Everyone questioned such when such were posted. Yet those who tried and succeeded obviously enjoyed their trips as they never posted back their tickets were voided later.

My point is, there are real life DPs that some overland segments are allowed. Now just under what circumstances such would be validated by the system is anybody's guess.

If my proposed itinerary is bookable, then it would be much beneficial for everyone here. Sometimes we just have to think outside the box and then try. Then we know what works what doesn't.

Go read for your self - my friend's itinerary contains an "OJ" as she has a stopover at TPE, then again at HKG. POT is at MAA but she will fly out from BOM. Ticket was booked a few months for travel in less than a month's time at the beginning of January. Let's see if she can fly as ticketed.

The KEY is not how we think. The KEY is, whether Aeroplan system would validate it. If it does, like in my friend's case that she got a far better itinerary. Good for her did not listen to others including me, kept telling her it would not work, that if she wanted to fly out from BOM instead of MAA she needed to give up her stopovers.

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Old Dec 9, 2018, 4:51 pm
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Originally Posted by Happy
Have you read the other thread where I posted a SUCCESSFULLY VALIDATED AND TICKETED award with the overland segment in it and still have 2 stopovers and a Point of Turnaround?
If you can ticket this, all the power to you. But it's still an open jaw, not some fictitious overland ticket.
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Old Jan 14, 2019, 7:16 am
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Some extra city pairs MPM

VIE - SGN 8464
GRZ - DPS 9965

It seems like if you have already flown a few sectors and then later call in to change, then the system disregards the already flown segments when repricing the new itinerary.

Ended up having to drop a sector as the system then calculated my new routing as over MPM when it should have been possible if I had made the change before flying it partially
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Old Jan 14, 2019, 12:28 pm
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Originally Posted by ChrisA330
If you can ticket this, all the power to you. But it's still an open jaw, not some fictitious overland ticket.
Rep told me if I wanted the overland portion I would need to use MIA - MIA and gave up the MIA - FLL which is not an OJ but a co-terminal, as the ticketed itinerary has stopover 1 at VCE, turnaround at PER and stopover 2 at HKG. After some consideration we prefer to return to FLL (more convenient and more flights should UA screws up the flight, there are more subsequent flights for rebooking). You can see the ticketed itinerary in the reporting thread. It took a long time for the system to validate it and it was ticketed just before Aeroplan system crashed for several hours from noon till late afternoon on Sunday Jan 13.
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Old Jan 14, 2019, 12:35 pm
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Extra City Pairs for MPM

MIA-PER 18230
MIA-SYD 14938
MIA-BNE 14670

An itinerary such as MIA-LIS-VIE or VCE, then IST-SIN-SYD or BNE, would work. No need to go to PER if you dont want to. On the other hand the intra Australia flight is only 10K / 20K one way with AA miles so it is a good deal to go between PER and SYD. BA Avios works better for the hops in the East and South Australia, in coach - because BA treats QF intra Australia business class as first class and charges the first class pricing.
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Old Jan 14, 2019, 5:34 pm
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Originally Posted by lsed
Some extra city pairs MPM

VIE - SGN 8464
GRZ - DPS 9965

It seems like if you have already flown a few sectors and then later call in to change, then the system disregards the already flown segments when repricing the new itinerary.

Ended up having to drop a sector as the system then calculated my new routing as over MPM when it should have been possible if I had made the change before flying it partially
Originally Posted by Happy
Extra City Pairs for MPM

MIA-PER 18230
MIA-SYD 14938
MIA-BNE 14670

An itinerary such as MIA-LIS-VIE or VCE, then IST-SIN-SYD or BNE, would work. No need to go to PER if you dont want to. On the other hand the intra Australia flight is only 10K / 20K one way with AA miles so it is a good deal to go between PER and SYD. BA Avios works better for the hops in the East and South Australia, in coach - because BA treats QF intra Australia business class as first class and charges the first class pricing.
Thanks - added both MPMs to the wiki above.
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Old Feb 21, 2019, 5:35 pm
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I am right that YYZ-SYD in J will earn me 70,000 miles?
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Old Feb 21, 2019, 5:52 pm
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Originally Posted by MQS007
I am right that YYZ-SYD in J will earn me 70,000 miles?
Only if you buy a ticket on United, are a Platinum or 1K member and credit to United. Or American credited to American. (that is to say, revenue based earning assuming a ~$10K ticket). You’d even earn 75K then!

Theres no way you can ever earn that much with Air Canada in a single trip.

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Old Feb 21, 2019, 6:25 pm
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I am sorry if this has been answered but what is the longest trip from YYZ. I need to earn 112,000 miles to hit a significant landmark
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Old Feb 21, 2019, 6:33 pm
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I am sorry if this has been answered but what is the longest trip from YYZ. I need to earn 112,000 miles to hit a significant landmark
If you just need 112,000 miles to redeem for something, signing up for an American Express Platinum card (via referral) is going to be MUCH easier than flying. To earn 112K miles by flying is going to take some significant doing, and will cost you a LOT of money - hope you realise that.
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Old Feb 21, 2019, 6:55 pm
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I need to fly them. 112,000 is what i have left to get a lifetime status and I am considering trying to do it as quickly as possible flown in J.
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Old Feb 21, 2019, 6:59 pm
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Originally Posted by MQS007
No this is to get to a lifetime Status.
Oh... that's a tough one. Air Canada only considers Air Canada for its lifetime calculation, so basically your ONLY option is YYZ-SYD, YVR-SYD, YYZ-HKG, YVR-BNE pretty much. YYZ-SYD would give you just under 10K miles each way, so you'd need to fly that ticket 6 times round-trip - and I don't think I've seen it for under $7K per ticket or so, so that's $40-50K right there, lol. Why the urgency? Spend a few years to get it, no? Or are you trying to get in before AC decimates the program in 2020?
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Old Feb 21, 2019, 7:07 pm
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The Wiki lists YYZ SYD at 15540 so return that is 31,080 and with the 150 % for J that gets one to 46,620. YYZ PER is 18050 so return in J should be 54,150 or am I missing something?
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The Wiki lists YYZ SYD at 15540 so return that is 31,080 and with the 150 % for J that gets one to 46,620. YYZ PER is 18050 so return in J should be 54,150 or am I missing something?
No no ... you're confusing mileage earned with mileage received for flying.

This thread as a whole is about the mileage you're permitted to fly when spending 75K Aeroplan on economy award / 150K on business class award tickets.

What you're referring to is paying to earn mileage on a ticket, which is a completely different conversation. You will earn miles as per Great Circle Mapper - check mileage between the cities you want to fly to - and 150% will not earn you lifetime mileage as only base mileage will count towards lifetime.

Which makes me wonder then - how do you know you need 110K for lifetime? Is this because you've earned 880K Aeroplan so far? I'm afraid this will have absolutely nothing to do with lifetime Air Canada Altitude status... or any sort of lifetime status, in fact. That's just miles you can use to spend on flights. Or toasters in the Aeroplan store. This will not grant you lifetime Air Canada benefits.
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Old Feb 21, 2019, 7:32 pm
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From my Altitude Dashboard it says I have flown x lifetime and x minus Goal line is 112,000 so my read is if I fly 112000 I will cross the goal line
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