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Aeroplan City Pair mileage (new pseudo-MPM)

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New Aeroplan City Pair mileages:

How to get the MPM online: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28509402-post231.html

Between:

Europe 1-Asia 1:
FRA-NRT: 9642 (q)
NRT-NCE: 10,302 (q)

Europe 1 - Asia 2:
VIE-SGN 8464 (q)
GRZ-DPS 9965 (q)

Europe 2-Asia 1:
DME-NRT: 9,091 -- 7,288(q) (they lowered it??)
DME-KIX: 7,108 (q)
LED-NRT: 7,398 (q)
DME-HKT: 6,249 (q)


Europe 1-North America

Europe 1-Australia
-FRA-SYD: 16700 (RTW:FRA-BKK-SYD-ICN-ORD-YYZ-FRA)
-CDG-PPT: 16065
-CDG-AKL: 18952

Asia 1-Asia 1
-PVG-SIN: 4278 (q)

Asia 2-Asia 1
-MNL-PEK: 2990 (q)

Asia 1-South Pacific
-NRT-RAR: 9170 (q)

Asia 1-Southern South America
-PVG-EZE: 20142 (q)

Asia 2-Northern South America
-SIN-UIO: 20279 (q)


North America-Europe 1
YVR-CPH: 7609 (c)
YVR-ZRH: 8363 (c)
YVR-LYR: 6196 (q)
YVR-TOS: 7164 (q)
BOS-VCE: 6453 (c)
YYZ-ARN: 6099 (q)
YYC-CPH: 7958 (c)
YVR-DUB: 7609 (c)
LAX-DUB: 8849 (c)
SAN-DUB: 9309 (c)
YVR-CDG: 8383 (c)
SAN-CDG: 10145 (c)
YVR-OSL: 7609 (c)
SAN-OSL: 9627 (c)



North America-Europe 2
YUL-KRR: 8163 (q)
YEG-IST: 9196 (q)
YVR-WAW: 8473
YVR-BUD: 8934
YVR-ATH: 10097
YVR-VKO: 8490 (q)
YVR-IST: 9920 (c)
LAX-IST: 11387 (c)

North America-Asia 1
-YVR-HKG - 8381 (c)
-YYC-BKK - 9776 (q)
-YEG-HKG 9113
-YEG-SIN 11377
-YEG-BKK 10382
-YEG-HKG is 9137 (q)
-YEG-SIN is 13447 (q) May 20, 2017

-ORD-BKK - 13753 (q)
-YYZ-BKK - 11055 (q) YYZ-BKK 11905
-YYZ-HND - 9088
-YYZ-NRT - 9049 (q)
-YYZ-ICN - 9297 (q)
-YYZ-PEK - 9228 (q)
-YYZ-HKG - 10957 (q)
-YYZ-OKA - 10200 (q)
-YYZ-TPE - 10544
-YYT-TPE - 10389 (q)
-YYT-HKG - 10576 (q)
-YYT-MFM - 10582 (q)
-ICN-YUL - 9260 (q)
-ICN-YEG - 7351 (q)
-TYO-YUL - 9071 (q)
-OSA-YOW - 9256 (q)

North America-Asia 2
YQB-MNL - 13600
YUL-DPS - 16,240 (q)
YEG-KUL 13301
YEG-PNH 12298
YEG-CNX - 11822
YVR-RGN 12060
YVR-BKK 12150
YVR-SIN 13196
YVR-SGN 12120
YVR-MNL 10854
YVR-HKT - 12824 (q)
YYT-SIN - 14493 (q) Aug 17, 2018
YYT-BKK - 13045 (q)
YYT-SGN - 13585 (q)
YYZ-SIN - 13095 (q)
YYZ-HKT - 12480 (q)
YYZ-DPS - 16293(q) May 22, 2017
SFO-BKK - 13956
YOW-BKK - 12156 as per syntron's post.

North America-Australia, New Zealand
YYZ-SYD: 15540 (q)
YYZ-AKL: 13816 (q)
YYZ-MEL 16210 (q)
YYZ-PER 18050 (q)
YUL-PER 18164 (q)
NYC-PER 18633 (q)
PER-SFO 14714 (q)
BDA-PER 20444 (q)
MEL-YVR 13160 (q)
YEG-MEL 13921 (q)
YEG-AKL 12078 (q)
YEG-PER 14693 (c)
BNE-YVR 11820 (q)
YVR-PER 14765 (q)
SYD-YVR 12417 (q)
JFK-SYD 15965 (q)
JFK-MEL 16669 (q)
YYC-SYD 13,096 (q)
YYC-MEL 13,829 (q)
YYC-BNE 12,468 (q)
YYC-PER 15,384 (q)
MIA-PER 18,230 (q)
MIA-SYD 14,938 (q)
MIA-BNE 14,670 (q)

As per Novagirl17's post, Nov 28, 2016
YHZ-MEL, 17,460
YHZ-SYD, 16,735
YHZ-AKL, 15,068

As per Beavertails on 2018-01-08:
YOW-PER = 18,121
YUL-PER = 18,194
YHZ-PER = 18,462

As per ffsim on 2018-02-14:
YUL-SYD = 15,968

North America-Indian Subcontinent
-YVR-MLE: 14270 (q)


North America-Northern South America

North America-Southern South America
YVR-LIM 8364 (q)
SEA-LIM 8170 (q)
YVR-SCL 10813 (q) Apr 1, 2017
YVR-EZE 11,557 (q) May 10, 2017

North America-East, West & South Africa
YVR-JNB 16362 (q)
YVR-CPT 16108 (q)
YVR-LVI 15420 (q)
YVR-VFA 15474 (q)
YYZ-SEZ 13750 (q)
YVR-MRU 16700 (q)
YVR-SEZ 14956 (q)
YVR-MQX 12844 (q)
YYJ-MRU 16718 (q)
LAX-MRU 18356 (q)
SFO-MRU 17998 (q)
LAX-JNB 16585 (q)
SFO-JNB 16863 (q)
YYZ-SEZ 13750 (q)
YYZ-JNB 13268
JFK-MRU 14790

North America- Middle East
YVR - FRU 9935 (q)
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Old Oct 30, 14, 12:43 pm
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Aeroplan City Pair mileage (new pseudo-MPM)

In contrast to the new "booked mini-RTW 2.0 Thread", lets just post city pair mileages here, so people can make their own routes. Perhaps a wiki will be in order once sufficient data is collected.

Please quote mileage quoted by AP agents. If that is not available, quote mileage of valid itins as per GCM (aka. City Pair mileage on FRA-NRT on an itin booked FRA-BKK-NRT would be the cumulative mileage of that route calculated on GCM). Indicate (q) for quoted and (c) for calculated mileage in your post.

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Old Oct 30, 14, 12:44 pm
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FRA-NRT: 9662mi (q)

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Old Oct 30, 14, 3:56 pm
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can we make this a sticky?

YYZ-SYD 15540
PVG-SIN 4278
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woahh... you sure yvr-bne is 7355? there's no possible routing for that's lower than that...
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Originally Posted by yerffej201 View Post
can we make this a sticky?
+ 1.

Since this isn't the discussion thread it easily falls off the first page but this resource will be very useful once/if we get enough data points. That, or combine it back into the discussion thread.
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Tcook has determined that the AC forum already has enough stickies and therefore this will not be added. Make of that what you will...
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Old Nov 6, 14, 9:33 am
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Originally Posted by Skyborne Flyer View Post
Tcook has determined that the AC forum already has enough stickies and therefore this will not be added. Make of that what you will...
In that case:

BUMP.

I am going to need this thread continually updated for all future mini RTW's.
In the mist of planning/attempting x 2 F trips for April 2015 to TPE.
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For those unfamiliar, this thread is a wiki - scroll up to the top and you can add the numbers yourself! See instructions in post #1.
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Originally Posted by luvFclass View Post
In that case:

BUMP.

I am going to need this thread continually updated for all future mini RTW's.
In the mist of planning/attempting x 2 F trips for April 2015 to TPE.
I'm going to write a tool to present this in a much more searchable format. once I get a break from work.
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This is going to be useful. AP is a mess now with their recent changes!

I added Asia 1-North America because I'm not sure if the mileage would be the same in reverse, and when I asked I did so from Seoul to Canada.

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Added YYZ-AKL.
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Not sure if this will help but there was an old FlyerTalk thread and then a spreadsheet we used to maintain on Rewards Canada on mileage pairs. That spreadsheet became a public document on Google Docs and lists mileage between many of the city pairs:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...Xc&hl=en#gid=1
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I don't think it's relevant... I had a look at YYZ-SYD as an example, and it's quoting a mileage that is very different than the current AP MPM for that city pair. I think the values in there are direct flight distances, whereas the MPM's are allowable routing distances for the purposes of an AP award.

Originally Posted by superdawg View Post
Not sure if this will help but there was an old FlyerTalk thread and then a spreadsheet we used to maintain on Rewards Canada on mileage pairs. That spreadsheet became a public document on Google Docs and lists mileage between many of the city pairs:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...Xc&hl=en#gid=1
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Originally Posted by vkykam View Post
I don't think it's relevant... I had a look at YYZ-SYD as an example, and it's quoting a mileage that is very different than the current AP MPM for that city pair. I think the values in there are direct flight distances, whereas the MPM's are allowable routing distances for the purposes of an AP award.
Correct. That spreadsheet is used for determining (+/- 10 miles) what you will EARN for flying that segment.
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Out of curiosity how are you getting the max milleage info. If we call AP and ask for a destination will they give it to us?
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