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Old Oct 30, 2014, 12:48 pm
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="5"%New Aeroplan City Pair mileages:

How to get the MPM online: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28509402-post231.html

Between:

Europe 1-Asia 1:
FRA-NRT: 9642 (q)
NRT-NCE: 10,302 (q)

Europe 1 - Asia 2:
VIE-SGN 8464 (q)
GRZ-DPS 9965 (q)

Europe 2-Asia 1:
DME-NRT: 9,091 -- 7,288(q) (they lowered it??)
DME-KIX: 7,108 (q)
LED-NRT: 7,398 (q)
DME-HKT: 6,249 (q)


Europe 1-North America

Europe 1-Australia
-FRA-SYD: 16700 (RTW:FRA-BKK-SYD-ICN-ORD-YYZ-FRA)
-CDG-PPT: 16065
-CDG-AKL: 18952

Asia 1-Asia 1
-PVG-SIN: 4278 (q)

Asia 2-Asia 1
-MNL-PEK: 2990 (q)

Asia 1-South Pacific
-NRT-RAR: 9170 (q)

Asia 1-Southern South America
-PVG-EZE: 20142 (q)

Asia 2-Northern South America
-SIN-UIO: 20279 (q)


North America-Europe 1
YVR-CPH: 7609 (c)
YVR-ZRH: 8363 (c)
YVR-LYR: 6196 (q)
YVR-TOS: 7164 (q)
YVR-KEF: 8019 (q)
BOS-VCE: 6453 (c)
YYZ-ARN: 6099 (q)
YYC-CPH: 7958 (c)
YVR-DUB: 7609 (c)
LAX-DUB: 8849 (c)
SAN-DUB: 9309 (c)
YVR-CDG: 8383 (c)
SAN-CDG: 10145 (c)
YVR-OSL: 7609 (c)
SAN-OSL: 9627 (c)



North America-Europe 2
YUL-KRR: 8163 (q)
YEG-IST: 9196 (q)
YVR-WAW: 8473
YVR-BUD: 8934
YVR-ATH: 10097
YVR-VKO: 8490 (q)
YVR-IST: 9920 (c)
LAX-IST: 11387 (c)
JFK-IST: 8275 (c)
MIA-IST: 9881 (c)
SFO-IST: 11137 (c)
ORD-IST: 9077 (c)
IAH-IST: 10571 (c)
IAH-BJV: 10767 (c)

North America-Asia 1
-YVR-HKG - 8381 (c)
-YVR-HIJ 7092
-YYC-BKK - 9776 (q)
-YEG-HKG 9113
-YEG-SIN 11377
-YEG-BKK 10382
-YEG-HKG is 9137 (q)
-YEG-SIN is 13447 (q) May 20, 2017

-ORD-BKK - 13753 (q)
-YYZ-BKK - 11055 (q) YYZ-BKK 11905
-YYZ-HND - 9088
-YYZ-NRT - 9049 (q)
-YYZ-ICN - 9297 (q)
-YYZ-PEK - 9228 (q)
-YYZ-HKG - 10957 (q)
-YYZ-OKA - 10200 (q)
-YYZ-TPE - 10544
-YYT-TPE - 10389 (q)
-YYT-HKG - 10576 (q)
-YYT-MFM - 10582 (q)
-ICN-YUL - 9260 (q)
-ICN-YEG - 7351 (q)
-TYO-YUL - 9071 (q)
-OSA-YOW - 9256 (q)

North America-Asia 2
YQB-MNL - 13600
YUL-DPS - 16,240 (q)
YEG-KUL 13301
YEG-PNH 12298
YEG-CNX - 11822
YVR-RGN 12060
YVR-BKK 12150
YVR-SIN 13196
YVR-SGN 12120
YVR-MNL 10854
YVR-HKT - 12824 (q)
YYT-SIN - 14493 (q) Aug 17, 2018
YYT-BKK - 13045 (q)
YYT-SGN - 13585 (q)
YYZ-SIN - 13095 (q)
YYZ-HKT - 12480 (q)
YYZ-DPS - 16293(q) May 22, 2017
SFO-BKK - 13956
YOW-BKK - 12156 as per syntron's post.
SAN-KUL - 14729
SFO-KUL - 14012
KUL-LAX - 14565

North America-Australia, New Zealand
YYZ-SYD: 15540 (q)
YYZ-AKL: 13816 (q)
YYZ-MEL 16210 (q)
YYZ-PER 18050 (q)
YUL-PER 18164 (q)
NYC-PER 18633 (q)
PER-SFO 14714 (q)
BDA-PER 20444 (q)
MEL-YVR 13160 (q)
YEG-MEL 13921 (q)
YEG-AKL 12078 (q)
YEG-PER 14693 (c)
BNE-YVR 11820 (q)
YVR-PER 14765 (q)
SYD-YVR 12417 (q)
JFK-SYD 15965 (q)
JFK-MEL 16669 (q)
YYC-SYD 13,096 (q)
YYC-MEL 13,829 (q)
YYC-BNE 12,468 (q)
YYC-PER 15,384 (q)
MIA-PER 18,230 (q)
MIA-SYD 14,938 (q)
MIA-BNE 14,670 (q)

As per Novagirl17's post, Nov 28, 2016
YHZ-MEL, 17,460
YHZ-SYD, 16,735
YHZ-AKL, 15,068

As per Beavertails on 2018-01-08:
YOW-PER = 18,121
YUL-PER = 18,194
YHZ-PER = 18,462

As per ffsim on 2018-02-14:
YUL-SYD = 15,968

North America-Indian Subcontinent
-YVR-MLE: 14270 (q)


North America-Northern South America

North America-Southern South America
YVR-LIM 8364 (q)
SEA-LIM 8170 (q)
YVR-SCL 10813 (q) Apr 1, 2017
YVR-EZE 11,557 (q) May 10, 2017

North America-East, West & South Africa
YVR-JNB 16362 (q)
YVR-CPT 16108 (q)
YVR-LVI 15420 (q)
YVR-VFA 15474 (q)
YYZ-SEZ 13750 (q)
YVR-MRU 16700 (q)
YVR-SEZ 14956 (q)
YVR-MQX 12844 (q)
YYJ-MRU 16718 (q)
LAX-MRU 18356 (q)
SFO-MRU 17998 (q)
LAX-JNB 16585 (q)
SFO-JNB 16863 (q)
YYZ-SEZ 13750 (q)
YYZ-JNB 13268
JFK-MRU 14790

North America- Middle East
YVR - FRU 9935 (q)
YVR - TAS 10,100




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Aeroplan City Pair mileage (new pseudo-MPM)

Old Mar 22, 2017, 6:24 pm
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Old Mar 22, 2017, 7:08 pm
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Originally Posted by flyer05
Quoted 18,050 for YYZ-PER. Updated the wiki. This makes a 6-continent mini-RTW entirely possible...

YYZ-YUL-ZRH-SIN-PER-JNB-GRU-YYZ would be the bones of the trip. There's still quite a lot of room to play with.

You could also leverage the new AKL-EZE route operated by NZ to do something like YYZ-BRU-CAI-IST-SIN-PER-AKL-EZE-YYZ, though I've yet to see any availability on AKL-EZE.
If you evet find any availability at all from per to akl or akl to eze then buy a lottery ticket!
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Old Mar 22, 2017, 8:16 pm
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Originally Posted by flyer05
Quoted 18,050 for YYZ-PER. Updated the wiki. This makes a 6-continent mini-RTW entirely possible...

YYZ-YUL-ZRH-SIN-PER-JNB-GRU-YYZ would be the bones of the trip. There's still quite a lot of room to play with.

You could also leverage the new AKL-EZE route operated by NZ to do something like YYZ-BRU-CAI-IST-SIN-PER-AKL-EZE-YYZ, though I've yet to see any availability on AKL-EZE.
That last one would be nice if there was ever availability on AKL-EZE.

Are most agents willing to give out the MPM between city pairs these days, or YMMV?
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Old Mar 22, 2017, 8:40 pm
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Originally Posted by karlpenney
That last one would be nice if there was ever availability on AKL-EZE.

Are most agents willing to give out the MPM between city pairs these days, or YMMV?
Very willing, in my experience.
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Old Mar 22, 2017, 10:26 pm
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You'll need yellow fever vaccination if you fly Brazil to South Africa. Check rules going in the other direction too
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Old Mar 23, 2017, 7:15 am
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Thanks for the heads-up crimsona.

I called in and asked about NYC-PER as well. It's 18,633. So we can do a bit better...

NYC-BOG-MAD-ZRH-JNB-PER

Or you could even squeeze in FOUR transoceanic flights...

NYC-LIS-GIG-GRU-JNB-PER

Plenty of room to hug the coast of Brazil on GOL as well on that one...

If you wanted to fly across the pacific, you could make it as far west as DXB before turning back east and going to Perth.

Anyway, just putting some ideas out there. Can anyone find even crazier routings?
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Old Mar 23, 2017, 4:56 pm
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Originally Posted by karlpenney
That last one would be nice if there was ever availability on AKL-EZE.

Are most agents willing to give out the MPM between city pairs these days, or YMMV?
ymmv, some will read it off, some will make you give then a routing to validate.
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Old Mar 28, 2017, 11:50 am
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Added some booked/bookable itins for YVR-Europe 1

YVR-LAX-ZRH-CPH booked
YVR-ORD-IST-ZRH was a bookable option but opted out due to inlaws fear of Turkey
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Old Mar 28, 2017, 5:05 pm
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I added Tokyo - Nice to the Wiki (on top of the Tokyo - Frankfurt that I added before). The MPM is INSANELY generous. You can hop around Europe like a boomerang before getting to your destination.
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Old Mar 28, 2017, 5:56 pm
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Originally Posted by flyer05
Thanks for the heads-up crimsona.

I called in and asked about NYC-PER as well. It's 18,633. So we can do a bit better...

NYC-BOG-MAD-ZRH-JNB-PER

Or you could even squeeze in FOUR transoceanic flights...

NYC-LIS-GIG-GRU-JNB-PER

Plenty of room to hug the coast of Brazil on GOL as well on that one...

If you wanted to fly across the pacific, you could make it as far west as DXB before turning back east and going to Perth.

Anyway, just putting some ideas out there. Can anyone find even crazier routings?
Here's what I did in Feb of last year:

yyz-iad
iad-pty
pty-bsb (stop)
bsb-gru
gru-jnb (stop)
jnb-per (p.o.t.)
per-sin
sin-icn
icn-lax
lax-yyz

J 160000
438$ taxes

If you got creative you could include EZE and CPT as well. I couldn't with my travel dates but its possible

And I wish I knew about Crimsona's warning about needing yellow-fever vax. It would've saved me from having to do an overnight run from GRU-SCL-GRU in order to dodge the requirement and be able to fly to JNB !
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Old Apr 1, 2017, 2:12 pm
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called to ask for the following and was quoted:

YVR-SCL 10813
YVR-EZE 11557
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Old Apr 7, 2017, 10:45 am
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Added JFK-SYD 15965 (q) and JFK-MEL 16669 (q). My proposed itinerary was 125 (!!!!!) miles short of allowable for SYD, but suddenly changing to MEL as destination made it bookable. Funny enough changing destination from SYD to MEL only results in a difference of 5 flown miles according to routing... rep first told me changing to MEL wouldn't help since MEL is "farther away" but after pushing for him to check I think I heard a "wow" that ended his lecture about how stopping in Europe and Asia makes no sense enroute to Australia.

Now I get 600 miles I can play with

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Old Apr 7, 2017, 3:03 pm
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What is your route from JFK to MEL?

I'm researching a trip from YHZ-BNE/SYD/MEL through SE Asia for next year.
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Old Apr 8, 2017, 2:32 am
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Originally Posted by karlpenney
What is your route from JFK to MEL?

I'm researching a trip from YHZ-BNE/SYD/MEL through SE Asia for next year.
FRA ICN and BKK on one way, BKK and NRT on the return.
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Old Apr 13, 2017, 7:22 pm
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Called in for YHZ-BNE and the AP agent quoted 16174.
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