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[Consolidated] Chance of upgrade clearing on my flight
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[Consolidated] Chance of upgrade clearing on my flight
Related thread - Understanding the United Upgrade List Comprehensively
[Consolidated] Chance of upgrade clearing on my flight {Archive}
Mar 13, 2016, 5:01 pm
#436
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My wife's parents are flying PVG-ORD on April 10th (Sunday) on a 744. They are kettles, but I think it would be an absolute treat for them if I can swing miles + copay and get them on the upper deck for the long flight across the big pond. I don't want to put in until I see R availability open, but this is how it stands currently:
F9 FN9 A9 ON3 O0 J9 JN9 C9 D9 Z9 ZN9 P9 PN9 R0 RN0 IN0 I0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9 G9 N9 XN9 X9
Seat map shows only 1 GF seat and 3 BF booked (none on UD). Do folks think there's a good chance R comes open at this rate?
F9 FN9 A9 ON3 O0 J9 JN9 C9 D9 Z9 ZN9 P9 PN9 R0 RN0 IN0 I0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9 G9 N9 XN9 X9
Seat map shows only 1 GF seat and 3 BF booked (none on UD). Do folks think there's a good chance R comes open at this rate?
Separately: my wife and I are flying back NRT-EWR on 3/27 on UA78. R availability just opened up for the first time (R=2), but as my wife is on an award ticket (I am on a revenue booking), I don't want to leave her behind. What do people think the possibility of any I inventory opening up prior to departure is like?
Mar 13, 2016, 6:14 pm
#437
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Seeing something very odd (as i wait for my GPU to clear or not) on UA955 3-Apr TLV-SFO
Seat map is wide open:Attachment 3297
But yet when i asked my travel agent she said that C was full - couldn't even buy a seat
Could this be due to the new flight (only 2nd time it will fly)
Seat map is wide open:Attachment 3297
But yet when i asked my travel agent she said that C was full - couldn't even buy a seat
Could this be due to the new flight (only 2nd time it will fly)
That flight is booked only 7/48 in BF.
The J3 C2 D2 is likely an error and will be corrected within the next few days.
Mar 14, 2016, 12:59 am
#438
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What tool are you using to see the load? Also, at 7/48, why not clear some of the GPUs now instead of later
Mar 14, 2016, 4:10 am
#439
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UA840 Sydney to LAX - chance of Star Alliance upgrade
Hi all
Looking to travel from Sydney to LAX on UA840 soon which I see is on the new 777-200 four class planes. Hoping to burn some points to get a Star Alliance upgrade from Y to J.
Anyone got any intell on the odds of that? if it is going to be impossible I will take a different airline/route.
Looking to travel from Sydney to LAX on UA840 soon which I see is on the new 777-200 four class planes. Hoping to burn some points to get a Star Alliance upgrade from Y to J.
Anyone got any intell on the odds of that? if it is going to be impossible I will take a different airline/route.
Mar 14, 2016, 4:53 am
#440
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If I read your post correctly, based on your profile:
You're a member of Air NZ's FF program, and want to use miles to upgrade on a UA flight.
Firstly, UA doesn't have 4 classes, just 3. The Economy+ section is effectively, "Economy with more legroom" and is not Premium Economy.
Secondly, my recollection is that upgrading Y->J using another Star Alliance airline's miles requires that you purchase a full fare ticket (Y or B class). I suspect it would be cheaper to just by the cheapest business fare.
You're a member of Air NZ's FF program, and want to use miles to upgrade on a UA flight.
Firstly, UA doesn't have 4 classes, just 3. The Economy+ section is effectively, "Economy with more legroom" and is not Premium Economy.
Secondly, my recollection is that upgrading Y->J using another Star Alliance airline's miles requires that you purchase a full fare ticket (Y or B class). I suspect it would be cheaper to just by the cheapest business fare.
Mar 14, 2016, 6:20 am
#441
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The only time I took this route I was successful in upgrading. Day of the week matters a lot for getting one, I flew on a Monday and came home on a Wednesday. I've heard that Friday / Saturday is usually sold out in J.
Mar 14, 2016, 8:22 am
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Star Alliance upgrade is only possible if you have a Y or B fare and then only if saver business award space is available. This is not a particularly high odds proposition.
Mar 14, 2016, 8:29 am
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Nilshomer Tool.
That's just not how UA does it. Their program, they do it how they wish.
The one caveat I will add here is that since that's one of the first days of a brand new route, there could be something funky going on (e.g., VIP giveaways or perhaps a delayed start to the service) and those BF seats might never be opened for sale (or upgrade).
That's just not how UA does it. Their program, they do it how they wish.
The one caveat I will add here is that since that's one of the first days of a brand new route, there could be something funky going on (e.g., VIP giveaways or perhaps a delayed start to the service) and those BF seats might never be opened for sale (or upgrade).
Mar 14, 2016, 9:02 am
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Mar 15, 2016, 1:31 am
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Unclear if the right thread, but a data point: UA 5315 SFO-MSP (E75) last Friday went out with 2 paid, 8 cleared, and 2 empty in F. Looks like the higher fare differential is taking its toll - other flights seem similar. That and the E75 has such a nice F/Y ratio ^
Mar 15, 2016, 7:58 am
#447
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On a G fare
PVG-ORD-LGA and I've put in a upgrade request using miles and cash. Business class looks wide open but R=0.
Flight is in 5 weeks and apparently i'm number one on the upgrade list currently. What are my chances it clears?
F2-N2-A2-ON-2O-0J-9J-N9-C9-D9-Z9-ZN9-P9-PN9-R0-RN0-IN0-I0-Y9-YN9-B9-M9-E9-U9-H9-HN9-Q9-V9-W9-S9-T9-L9-K9-G9-N9-XN-9X9
PVG-ORD-LGA and I've put in a upgrade request using miles and cash. Business class looks wide open but R=0.
Flight is in 5 weeks and apparently i'm number one on the upgrade list currently. What are my chances it clears?
F2-N2-A2-ON-2O-0J-9J-N9-C9-D9-Z9-ZN9-P9-PN9-R0-RN0-IN0-I0-Y9-YN9-B9-M9-E9-U9-H9-HN9-Q9-V9-W9-S9-T9-L9-K9-G9-N9-XN-9X9
Mar 19, 2016, 7:27 pm
#448
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Hello All,
I am waitlisted for an upgrade (miles + co-pay) on UA 5961 (SFO-AUS) - 03/25.
What are my chances it clears - currently i see R=0?
Available fare classes: F3-A3-JN3-C3-D3-Z0-ZN0-P0-PN0-R0-RN0-IN0-I0-Y9-YN9-B9-M9-E9-U7-H6-HN0-Q1-V1-W1-S0-T0-L0-K0-G0-N0-XN0-X0 (using UA search, i am not sure how accurate it is).
thanks in advance.
I am waitlisted for an upgrade (miles + co-pay) on UA 5961 (SFO-AUS) - 03/25.
What are my chances it clears - currently i see R=0?
Available fare classes: F3-A3-JN3-C3-D3-Z0-ZN0-P0-PN0-R0-RN0-IN0-I0-Y9-YN9-B9-M9-E9-U7-H6-HN0-Q1-V1-W1-S0-T0-L0-K0-G0-N0-XN0-X0 (using UA search, i am not sure how accurate it is).
thanks in advance.
Last edited by vvbkumar; Mar 19, 2016 at 7:38 pm Reason: added available fare class from UA
Mar 19, 2016, 7:46 pm
#449
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Hello All,
I am waitlisted for an upgrade (miles + co-pay) on UA 5961 (SFO-AUS) - 03/25.
What are my chances it clears - currently i see R=0?
Available fare classes: F3-A3-JN3-C3-D3-Z0-ZN0-P0-PN0-R0-RN0-IN0-I0-Y9-YN9-B9-M9-E9-U7-H6-HN0-Q1-V1-W1-S0-T0-L0-K0-G0-N0-XN0-X0 (using UA search, i am not sure how accurate it is).
thanks in advance.
I am waitlisted for an upgrade (miles + co-pay) on UA 5961 (SFO-AUS) - 03/25.
What are my chances it clears - currently i see R=0?
Available fare classes: F3-A3-JN3-C3-D3-Z0-ZN0-P0-PN0-R0-RN0-IN0-I0-Y9-YN9-B9-M9-E9-U7-H6-HN0-Q1-V1-W1-S0-T0-L0-K0-G0-N0-XN0-X0 (using UA search, i am not sure how accurate it is).
thanks in advance.
But what I (and most other FT'ers) would like to know is how you can see the fare buckets right now 
Mar 19, 2016, 8:09 pm
#450
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I would normally rate these both as good chances, but with UA these days, who knows?
4/27 (Wed) IAD-SFO 11am on a 738, booked Q, waitlisted with GPU.
8/30 (Tues) IAD-LHR 6pm on a 772, booked Q, waitlisted with GPU. (Also trying to score an I/IN or O seat for my wife, but those are no dice, either.)
On the latter, the GPU has never been deducted from my account (blame a UA ticketing bug), but the C segment shows on the itin as waitlisted. I've called twice to try to get them to at least take my GPU with no luck yet.
4/27 (Wed) IAD-SFO 11am on a 738, booked Q, waitlisted with GPU.
8/30 (Tues) IAD-LHR 6pm on a 772, booked Q, waitlisted with GPU. (Also trying to score an I/IN or O seat for my wife, but those are no dice, either.)
On the latter, the GPU has never been deducted from my account (blame a UA ticketing bug), but the C segment shows on the itin as waitlisted. I've called twice to try to get them to at least take my GPU with no luck yet.