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NickP 1K Jan 29, 2009 1:32 pm

Cards in the US
 
Seen one or two people in the US get their new cards, still nothing here in So. Calif :(

omkhar Jan 29, 2009 1:44 pm

This morning at YYZ (US Customs Preclearance) I was requested to show my Nexus Card, and Passport when handing in my customs form.

The US agent even suggested I "Have them ready next time to speed things up"

I haven't traveled to the US since early Dec - has something changed?

B1 Jan 29, 2009 3:18 pm


Originally Posted by omkhar (Post 11165805)
This morning at YYZ (US Customs Preclearance) I was requested to show my Nexus Card, and Passport when handing in my customs form.

The US agent even suggested I "Have them ready next time to speed things up"

I haven't traveled to the US since early Dec - has something changed?

The NEXUS machine prints out a ticket but the agent isn't necessarily aware that you're the person it was issued to. The ticket can then be matched to your passport and card you filled out to confirm the identity. It's a matter of judgement as alway.

YVR Cockroach Jan 29, 2009 6:29 pm


Originally Posted by robsaw (Post 11165634)
If something criminal comes up in their checks they can't arrest you there but must call in Canadian authorities. However, I have heard that if there is an outstanding US criminal matter they may just let people on the plane to be greeted by US authorities on arrival in US soil (saves the hassle of extradition).

Most definitely. I saw someone coming off my YVR-SEA flight arrested upon disembarkation at SEA.

LessO2 Jan 30, 2009 8:27 am


Originally Posted by B1 (Post 11166492)
The NEXUS machine prints out a ticket but the agent isn't necessarily aware that you're the person it was issued to. The ticket can then be matched to your passport and card you filled out to confirm the identity. It's a matter of judgement as alway.

That might be true with places like YVR or YYC where they can't see you do the kiosk thing, but there are places like YOW (where the kiosk is about 10 feet away and rarely more than one person lined up) where it's ridiculous (and, unquestionably, been carded the most).

Given the YOW thing, I think asking for the card is more about trying to bust someone and revoke privileges.

lcohen999 Jan 30, 2009 10:11 am

I think it makes total sense actually.

If nothing else, it should help remove or reduce the "oh, I didn't know I needed my passport because I have Nexus" argument before being sent off to secondary (when the Kiosks are down).

omkhar Jan 30, 2009 2:21 pm

Just tried to give the TSA agent at CLT my Nexus card when asked for ID. She looked at me funny, and said in a polite southern accent

"Well, I dunno what the heck this is?"

I explained it to her, but eventually was forced to pull out my passport

okazon69 Jan 30, 2009 3:59 pm


Originally Posted by omkhar (Post 11172646)
Just tried to give the TSA agent at CLT my Nexus card when asked for ID. She looked at me funny, and said in a polite southern accent

"Well, I dunno what the heck this is?"

I explained it to her, but eventually was forced to pull out my passport

Same happened to me in PHX 2 months ago, albeit with the old NEXUS card. When I suggested it was issued by DHS and was one of their approved ID cards, they just shrugged. I was also compelled to show another form of ID. I wonder if they would have accepted a Puyallup Indian Tribe card, as it does feature prominently on their website. :D

emcampbe Jan 30, 2009 5:13 pm

Acutally, DHS has nothing to do with the NEXUS program at all, much less issuing the actual Nexus cards. Program on the US side is administered by CBP.

okazon69 Jan 30, 2009 5:29 pm


Originally Posted by emcampbe (Post 11173591)
Acutally, DHS has nothing to do with the NEXUS program at all, much less issuing the actual Nexus cards. Program on the US side is administered by CBP.

Yes, yes. To quote http://www.cbp.gov/xp/cgov/about/: CBP is one of the Department of Homeland Security’s largest and most complex components...

timriley12 Jan 30, 2009 10:38 pm

Thanks for the clarification! Hmm, I guess since the customs area is Canadian territory after all, then a same-sex married couple should still be technically considered married for all intents and purposes at that customs location, although that federal recognition would stop once you fly into U.S. airspace...


Originally Posted by robsaw (Post 11165634)
A common misconception. The area is by no means US territory. It is staffed by US officers that have the right to verify your admissibility to the US in accordance with US law. No more, no less. If something criminal comes up in their checks they can't arrest you there but must call in Canadian authorities. However, I have heard that if there is an outstanding US criminal matter they may just let people on the plane to be greeted by US authorities on arrival in US soil (saves the hassle of extradition).


Peregrine415 Feb 1, 2009 2:41 pm


Originally Posted by spddemn (Post 11165703)
Had my interview today. All good, clear sailing now. Should have card in two weeks they said.

Two weeks to get your Nexus card these days? I got mine on the spot at YUL in last December.

Peregrine415 Feb 1, 2009 2:54 pm


Originally Posted by okazon69 (Post 11173673)
Yes, yes. To quote http://www.cbp.gov/xp/cgov/about/: CBP is one of the Department of Homeland Security’s largest and most complex components...

What the OP meant was Nexus is not a DHS (read: US) initiative but rather a Canadian one. If I remember correctly from my past trips to Canada, Nexus originally worked only for entry to Canada and not vice versa. Now of course it works both ways but only on US/Canada border and not at IAH and IAD.

fly-yul Feb 1, 2009 4:32 pm


Originally Posted by Peregrine415 (Post 11182189)
What the OP meant was Nexus is not a DHS (read: US) initiative but rather a Canadian one. If I remember correctly from my past trips to Canada, Nexus originally worked only for entry to Canada and not vice versa. Now of course it works both ways but only on US/Canada border and not at IAH and IAD.


Canpass is a Canadian program for entry into Canada only.

Nexus is a joint US/Canada program.

emcampbe Feb 1, 2009 6:20 pm

I just meant the cards would have been issued by the CBP, as they are the US entity that oversees Nexus, and all Nexus cards seem to list the US as the country of issue. Perhaps part of DHS, but it is not DHS themselves that issues the cards. Nexus is a joint Canada/US program.

Speaking of issuing Nexus cards, I still haven't recieved my new one yet. Wondering if I should just log on to GOES and request a replacement, at least after I complete my next trip in early Feb. Can't imagine why after at least a year of delays for the new cards, they are taking so long to distribute them. Of course, I suppose just being government could be the reason?


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