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KVS Aug 30, 2012 7:04 pm


Originally Posted by trolly2012 (Post 19225416)
Hello.
Confused.
I use both KVS and ExpertFlyer.

KVS shows - for award (-) First class (O) on LX161 Sept 12 NRT-ZRH

BUT

ExpertFlyer shows (O) 4 seats available...

Which to believe to use my USairways miles with.

If you are redeeming US DM miles, then you would need to check the Alliance/Partner Award Availability.

The 'expanded' Award Availability is for M&M members only and is irrelevant for your purposes.

Only the KVS Tool supports both 'sets' of Award Availability:

[KVS Availability Tool 7.0.4/Diamond - SNT: Awards/StarAlliance/JP-ANA-SP1]
Code:

NRT  Tokyo Narita JP [RJAA]
ZRH  Zurich CH [LSZH]
WED  12 Sep 2012 | 1 Seat

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------
LX        161    NRT  10:25    ZRH  15:50    343  0  FS-  CS+  YS-

[KVS Availability Tool 7.0.4/Diamond - Amadeus: Awards/M&M]
Code:

NRT  Tokyo Narita JP [RJAA]
ZRH  Zurich CH [LSZH]
WED  12 Sep 2012 | 19 Sep 2012 | 1 Seat

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------------
LX        161    NRT  10:25    ZRH  15:50    343      FS+  CS+  YS-  YR-


SuperFlyBoy Aug 30, 2012 11:11 pm


Originally Posted by trolly2012 (Post 19225416)
Hello.
Confused.
I use both KVS and ExpertFlyer.

KVS shows - for award (-) First class (O) on LX161 Sept 12 NRT-ZRH

BUT

ExpertFlyer shows (O) 4 seats available...

Which to believe to use my USairways miles with.

Thank you.

Expert Flyer shows only LX availability when using Miles & More miles / for their (M&M) program members.

trolly2012 Aug 30, 2012 11:43 pm

I have used KVS for years now and followed your advice and did use:
POS: SP1 and also STD on SNT: Awards/StarAlliance and again comes up
(-) for FS and CS...what am I missing here?
Thank you.


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 19225741)
If you are redeeming US DM miles, then you would need to check the Alliance/Partner Award Availability.

The 'expanded' Award Availability is for M&M members only and is irrelevant for your purposes.

Only the KVS Tool supports both 'sets' of Award Availability:

[KVS Availability Tool 7.0.4/Diamond - SNT: Awards/StarAlliance/JP-ANA-SP1]
Code:

NRT  Tokyo Narita JP [RJAA]
ZRH  Zurich CH [LSZH]
WED  12 Sep 2012 | 1 Seat

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------
LX        161    NRT  10:25    ZRH  15:50    343  0  FS-  CS+  YS-

[KVS Availability Tool 7.0.4/Diamond - Amadeus: Awards/M&M]
Code:

NRT  Tokyo Narita JP [RJAA]
ZRH  Zurich CH [LSZH]
WED  12 Sep 2012 | 19 Sep 2012 | 1 Seat

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------------
LX        161    NRT  10:25    ZRH  15:50    343      FS+  CS+  YS-  YR-



golfmad Aug 31, 2012 10:52 am

Should there be an entry for F in this search?
 
Hello, please see the picture of a redemption search below. We already have seats of QF12 in J on 24th Dec 2012. I'm going to keep an eye on availability in F now that we're on the A380 which has F. However, the search doesn't show anything (positive or negative) for F. Am I missing something?


monksy Aug 31, 2012 3:54 pm

Is there a good guide on putting together fares with this? [I.e. a start to finish tutorial].

jasonvr Aug 31, 2012 6:38 pm


Originally Posted by trolly2012 (Post 19226914)
I have used KVS for years now and followed your advice and did use:
POS: SP1 and also STD on SNT: Awards/StarAlliance and again comes up
(-) for FS and CS...what am I missing here?
Thank you.

Remember, award availability is constantly changing. I am no longer seeing a C seat available on that flight, so I'm guessing someone took the seat. As explained by KVS, there was never any F availability for you since you are using US miles and not LX miles.

trolly2012 Aug 31, 2012 9:45 pm

Thank you.
I just wanted to make sure my settings were right.
I appreciate the forum members' help.


Originally Posted by jasonvr (Post 19232133)
Remember, award availability is constantly changing. I am no longer seeing a C seat available on that flight, so I'm guessing someone took the seat. As explained by KVS, there was never any F availability for you since you are using US miles and not LX miles.


timc01 Sep 1, 2012 9:45 am

Just renewed as Plat and thought this would allow me to see BA UG avail as per

http://www.kvstool.com/MembershipLev...?Source=HOME-C

But the tool is telling me I need Diamond?

KVS Sep 1, 2012 1:53 pm


Originally Posted by timc01 (Post 19234734)
Just renewed as Plat and thought this would allow me to see BA UG avail as per

http://www.kvstool.com/MembershipLev...?Source=HOME-C

But the tool is telling me I need Diamond?

BA Award/Upgrade Availability is accessible via the [Awards/OneWorld] Method at the Platinum level.

It is also accessible via [Awards/BA-OneWorld] & [Awards/JL-OneWorld] Methods at the Diamond level.

http://Help.KVSTool.com/#BA

KVS Sep 1, 2012 1:54 pm


Originally Posted by SuperFlyBoy (Post 19226801)
Expert Flyer shows only LX availability when using Miles & More miles / for their (M&M) program members.

Indeed.

KVS Sep 1, 2012 2:00 pm


Originally Posted by golfmad (Post 19229705)
Hello, please see the picture of a redemption search below. We already have seats of QF12 in J on 24th Dec 2012. I'm going to keep an eye on availability in F now that we're on the A380 which has F. However, the search doesn't show anything (positive or negative) for F. Am I missing something?

The [Awards/OneWorld] Method does not show Cabins that have no Award Availability.

If you would prefer to see the lack of Award Availability more explicitly, you can use the [Awards/JL-OneWorld] Method instead:

[KVS Availability Tool 7.0.4/Diamond - Axess: Awards/JL-OneWorld/US]
Code:

LAX  Los Angeles Intl CA US [KLAX]
SYD  Sydney Kingsford Smith NS AU [YSSY]
MON  24 Dec 2012

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------
QF        12      LAX  22:20    SYD  08:20 +2  388  0  FS0  CS0  YS9
QF        108    LAX  23:40    SYD  09:30 +2  744  0  CS0  YS0
QF        94      LAX  23:30    MEL  10:20 +2  388  0  FS0  CS0  YS0
 -> QF    430    MEL  12:00 +2  SYD  13:25 +2  73H  0  FS/  CS0  YS1
QF        94      LAX  23:30    MEL  10:20 +2  388  0  FS0  CS0  YS0
 -> QF    434    MEL  13:00 +2  SYD  14:25 +2  73H  0  FS/  CS0  YS0


KVS Sep 1, 2012 2:00 pm


Originally Posted by monksy (Post 19231498)
Is there a good guide on putting together fares with this? [I.e. a start to finish tutorial].

There sure is:
http://www.KVSTool.com/Planning-A-Trip.php

timc01 Sep 1, 2012 6:15 pm


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 19235843)
BA Award/Upgrade Availability is accessible via the [Awards/OneWorld] Method at the Platinum level.

It is also accessible via [Awards/BA-OneWorld] & [Awards/JL-OneWorld] Methods at the Diamond level.

http://Help.KVSTool.com/#BA

I'd originally asked on the BA forum about the ability to be sent alerts in the event of award seats opening up. I see I can save a search. But getting alerts?

Can KVS do that? If so how do I do it?

KQ321 Sep 2, 2012 1:51 pm

Problem With Routing Rules Engine?
 
Is anyone else having problems accessing routing rules at the moment?

I'm getting the following error message:
"* INVALID RQST FOR RTGS - USE 4FR AND SPECIFY LINE NBR"

(even when trying various fares and city-pairs which I am sure have worked in the past).

Win7, KVS 7.0.4/Diamond - in case it makes a difference...

jasonvr Sep 2, 2012 11:27 pm


Originally Posted by KQ321 (Post 19240422)
Is anyone else having problems accessing routing rules at the moment?

I'm getting the following error message:
"* INVALID RQST FOR RTGS - USE 4FR AND SPECIFY LINE NBR"

(even when trying various fares and city-pairs which I am sure have worked in the past).

Win7, KVS 7.0.4/Diamond - in case it makes a difference...

Getting the same thing

[KVS Availability Tool 7.0.4/Diamond - Routing Rules: SNA-BWI/UA/GA10KN/218 USD]
Code:

SNABWI-UA 03SEP12      *RULE DISPLAY*    TARIFF 0011 RULE 601W
  -FARE BASIS        USD      TAX      TOTAL    PTC  FT   
GA10KN              101.39      7.61      109.00  ADT  EX   
GA10KN              101.39      7.61      109.00  CNN  EX   
GA10KN                0.00      0.00        0.00  INF  EX   
GA10KN              101.39      7.61      109.00  INS  EX   
GA10KN              101.39      7.61      109.00  JNN  EX   
GA10KN                0.00      0.00        0.00  JNF  EX   
GA10KN              101.39      7.61      109.00  JNS  EX   

BOOKING CODES        G                                         

INDUSTRY FARE TYPE - SIP - INSTANT PURCHASE

---------------------------------------------------------------

* INVALID RQST FOR RTGS - USE 4FR AND SPECIFY LINE NBR   



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