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KVS Sep 24, 2012 9:43 pm


Originally Posted by Dr. HFH (Post 19372946)
Please consider this a strong vote in favor of adding this capability. I use OW with the JL method. The BA method seems to take 2-3 times as long for each search, and the straight OW method (as well as the CX method) doesn't differentiate between seats CX makes available to AM members and those it makes available to partner programs. Most often, I'm looking for CX seats. I've used the *A seven day search a few times for the AC miles I sporadically collect, and it makes the searches so much easier!! Thanks, KVS!!!

At the moment, only the [Awards/StarAlliance] Engine natively supports 7-day searches. If we were to implement a 7-day search for other Methods, it can make the multi-day search process more convenient, but it would be technically impossible to make those searches any faster, as the speed is determined by the Engine speed itself.


Originally Posted by JIMCHI (Post 19374292)
1. I was never aware that the CX award seats showing on KVS are not necessarily available to partner program members, such as AAdvantage. KVS- is this true and can you come up with a method which gets around this?

We already did (about 12 months ago :)) -- if you use the [Awards/JL-OneWorld] Method, the CX Award Availability shown is, in fact, partner Availability and will match what the AADV Agents see on their screens.

KVS Sep 24, 2012 9:47 pm


Originally Posted by highman123 (Post 19377846)
I'm hitting a strange issue with KQ NBO-SEZ 08/01/2013 return 08/06/2013 - AF Tool shows availability, Deltas shows nothing - would be great if someone with access could take a look for O space?

Both dates are currently outside of the 10-month range for the AF/FB Engine -- where are you seeing Award Availability, exactly?

KVS Sep 24, 2012 9:49 pm


Originally Posted by zozeppelin (Post 19377475)
Newbie, looking to make sure I am seeing this correctly. I am looking for US to LIM award ticket (focusing on MIA to LIM on LAN to use the sharing award class since AA is unavailable). I believe I should be looking for T class availability on LAN (X for AA) for the Standard award (so I can lump it together for 30k round trip). Now, I search oneworld awards for LIM-MIA on Oct 22nd and get nothing (both Oneworld and BA). When I look at availability I see a LIM-BOG-MIA flight with T class availability. What am I doing wrong? Thanks.

[Awards/BA-OneWorld] Engine is currently showing 7+ YS/T Award Seats available on those flights:

[KVS Availability Tool 7.0.6/Diamond - Amadeus: Awards/BA-OneWorld]
Code:

LIM  Lima Jorge Chavez Intl PE [SPIM]
MIA  Miami Intl FL US [KMIA]
MON  22 Oct 2012

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive        St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------
LA/LP      2584    LIM  19:50    BOG  23:05              YS7
 -> LA/4C  3502    BOG  07:20 +1  MIA  12:15 +1          YS7
LA/LP      2584    LIM  19:50    BOG  23:05              YS7
 -> AA    2170    BOG  08:00 +1  MIA  12:45 +1          YS7


jasonvr Sep 24, 2012 11:12 pm

Now that Expert Mode and fare class availability is back on UA.com, will it reappear in KVS?

MightyTravels Sep 25, 2012 12:42 am


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 19378702)

Originally Posted by highman123 (Post 19377846)
I'm hitting a strange issue with KQ NBO-SEZ 08/01/2013 return 08/06/2013 - AF Tool shows availability, Deltas shows nothing - would be great if someone with access could take a look for O space?

Both dates are currently outside of the 10-month range for the AF/FB Engine -- where are you seeing Award Availability, exactly?

Airfrance.us shows 12 month in calendar overview. It shows there.

KVS Sep 25, 2012 1:57 pm


Originally Posted by highman123 (Post 19379330)
Airfrance.us shows 12 month in calendar overview. It shows there.

As noted on AF.us:
"You can book award tickets between 10 months and 3 hours prior to departure for short and medium-haul flights, and between 10 months and 24 hours prior to departure for long-haul flights."
The calendar may show Availability beyond that range, but if you try to select such a date, you will receive an error message, such as:
"There are no Air France flights on the selected route."

MightyTravels Sep 25, 2012 2:01 pm


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 19382947)
As noted on AF.us:
"You can book award tickets between 10 months and 3 hours prior to departure for short and medium-haul flights, and between 10 months and 24 hours prior to departure for long-haul flights."
The calendar may show Availability beyond that range, but if you try to select such a date, you will receive an error message, such as:
"There are no Air France flights on the selected route."

Fair enough but try 7/25/2013 - it shows at least 2 seats in O (Business) in low award. However Delta can't see any of it - in fact most GDS can't even see that flight at all :confused:

KVS Sep 25, 2012 2:34 pm


Originally Posted by highman123 (Post 19382976)
Fair enough but try 7/25/2013 - it shows at least 2 seats in O (Business) in low award. However Delta can't see any of it - in fact most GDS can't even see that flight at all :confused:

There are, indeed, C Award Seats Available on 25 Jul 2013.

For tips on dealing with Agents, who may claim otherwise, please see http://Help.KVSTool.com/#AgentSaysNo

[KVS Availability Tool 7.0.6/Diamond - Amadeus: Awards/SkyTeam/US-AF]
Code:

NBO  Nairobi Metro / Jomo Kenyatta Intl KE = NBO WIL [HKNA]
SEZ  Seychelles Mahe Is Pointe La Rue Intl SC [FSIA]
THU  25 Jul 2013 | 1 Seat

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive        St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------
KQ        450    NBO  09:05    SEZ  13:20              CS+

[KVS Availability Tool 7.0.6/Diamond - Galileo: Availability/ETR/JP]
Code:

NBO  Nairobi Metro / Jomo Kenyatta Intl KE = NBO WIL [HKNA]
SEZ  Seychelles Mahe Is Pointe La Rue Intl SC [FSIA]
THU  25 Jul 2013

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------
KQ        450    NBO  09:05    SEZ  13:20    E90  0  O4
KQ        310    NBO  19:20    DXB  01:35 +1  763  0  O4
 -> EK    707    DXB  08:25 +1  SEZ  13:05 +1  345  0  O7


KVS Sep 25, 2012 4:11 pm

UA Award & Upgrade Availability Format Update
 
UA Numeric Availability Format & Elite Award/Upgrade Availability support have now been fully restored.

Please refer to the updated Method Info & UA Booking Classes Table sections for details and be sure to download the latest version (V7.0.6).

jasonvr Sep 25, 2012 8:02 pm


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 19383823)
UA Numeric Availability Format & Elite Award/Upgrade Availability support have now been fully restored.

Please refer to the updated Method Info & UA Booking Classes Table sections for details and be sure to download the latest version (V7.0.6).

Yes it has, thank you!

However, it seems to be unable to parse the 787 indication for UA:

[KVS Availability Tool 7.0.6/Diamond - ITA: Awards-Upgrades/UA]
Code:

SFO  San Francisco Intl CA US [KSFO]
IAH  Houston George Bush Intercnt'l TX US [KIAH]
SUN  09 Dec 2012

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
UA        1146    SFO  00:15    IAH  05:41              F9 A9 JN9 Z9 ZN9 P9 PN9 R9 RN9 IN9 I9 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9 G9 N9 XN9 X9
UA        565    SFO  06:02    IAH  11:54    752      F9 A9 JN9 Z9 ZN9 P9 PN9 R9 RN9 IN4 I4 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9 G9 N9 XN9 X8

Flight 1146 is operated by a 787 on 12/9

EileenSRN Sep 26, 2012 8:01 am

KVS Tool wins again!
 
I just wanted to say thank you for this great resource. I just booked an award in C BUF -HAM RT. As I gave the agent my flt #'s, she was amazed that they all had award availability! Wow, she said, I wish all award bookings were this easy. I loved that I could check availability by several methods. I know I get the best results by "building" my ITN one seg at a time. Without this Tool I'd be lost. Thanks for all your hard work!
Eileen

IAD1k Sep 26, 2012 12:56 pm

issues with ow/qantas?
 
i am looking at OW awards (EZE-PUQ). when i use the OW/BA method i get some results, however, this method does not include lan argentina (4M) for some reason, so i checked using the amadeus OW method which pulls from qantas and i get "no award availability" even when i am getting them with the OW/BA method. i noticed 2 issues, one with KVS and one with qantas, but not sure which one is causing the problem.
issue with qantas: i tried booking a dummy award on their website, but the departure airport (EZE) is not even an option! they have an annoying drop down menu for departure airports and it won't let you input what you want.
issue with KVS: it does not give you an error message if you enter the incorrect PIN number under settings, i purposely tried several incorrect PINs and the correct PIN for my qantas account and just got "no award availability" for both the correct and incorrect PINs, so not sure if it is even checking correctly.
any words of wisdom?

KVS Sep 26, 2012 1:17 pm


Originally Posted by IAD1k (Post 19388927)
i am looking at OW awards (EZE-PUQ). when i use the OW/BA method i get some results, however, this method does not include lan argentina (4M) for some reason, so i checked using the amadeus OW method which pulls from qantas and i get "no award availability" even when i am getting them with the OW/BA method.

LA (and its affiliates) are currently experiencing system connectivity issues with some of its partners, which may cause Award Availability not to show via the [Awards/OneWorld] Method, while [Awards/BA-OneWorld] continues to function normally.

4M is only supported via [Awards/OneWorld]:
http://Help.KVSTool.com/#4M


Originally Posted by IAD1k (Post 19388927)
i noticed 2 issues, one with KVS and one with qantas, but not sure which one is causing the problem.

issue with qantas: i tried booking a dummy award on their website, but the departure airport (EZE) is not even an option! they have an annoying drop down menu for departure airports and it won't let you input what you want.

That is correct -- KVS Tool supports a much wider set of departure/arrival points than the QF.com website does directly.


Originally Posted by IAD1k (Post 19388927)
issue with KVS: it does not give you an error message if you enter the incorrect PIN number under settings, i purposely tried several incorrect PINs and the correct PIN for my qantas account and just got "no award availability" for both the correct and incorrect PINs, so not sure if it is even checking correctly.

If you are already logged-in (using the correct PIN), you need to restart the KVS Tool after entering an incorrect one.

KVS Sep 27, 2012 10:36 am


Originally Posted by jasonvr (Post 19384812)
However, it seems to be unable to parse the 787 indication for UA

This issue has now been resolved -- please download V7.0.6.R1.

jasonvr Sep 28, 2012 12:19 am

Why does it seem that every time I really need something in KVS in order to jump on a fare, I got an error :(

MCT doesn't seem to be working. Getting the error:

Error Retrieving Reference Data [WDC-S-ERR]
"[Host Fault] "MATIP Timeout""


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