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Quote:

Originally Posted by KVS (Post 17848426)

Award Availability for many carriers is accessible via more than one Method in the KVS Tool.

SkyTeam Award Availability for AF KL DL SU KE MU can be checked via a combination of the the [WSpan: Awards/DL-SkyTeam], [Galileo: ETR] & [Sabre: GTC] Methods, all of which are available at the Platinum level.

For additional information, please select the [Detailed View] on the Membership Options page: http://Levels.KVSTool.com/

Thanks for the clarification ^

Think I'll give it a try :)

Awards not showing

I'm new to the Tool. Sometimes it does not show the awards. I'm looking at SEA to CDG on 12 Sep. There's lots of availability, but when I switch to Awards, I get "No Award Availability/Route too complex/Date-out-of-range"

http://www.coking.com/temp/kvs5.jpg

There's probably some filter I need to turn off or on.

My goal is to find a Biz seat TATL, going on 12 Sep, returning on 22 Sep.
I'll being going on to Krakow, Poland (KRK) and returning from Prague, Czech. I may just purchase an EasyJet ticket from and too Paris, since there are very few match connecting flights with awards.
Paul

No fare in system

I've searched through this thread and found various examples but no 'solution' to the problem. I've been searching through several West Coast ex-WAS/BWI fares today (-SEA, -LAX, -SFO, etc.), and for many flights I run into the 'NO FARE IN SYSTEM' when I try to find Routing Rules.

I've tried to move "up" in Fare Basis to see if a particular bucket is not updated, again to no avail. I had a friend login through his ExpertFlyer account and he is able to pull up routing rules, so I know that they exist somewhere - looking to see if I don't have something configured correctly or am not doing something right on my end to constantly receive this error message.

Thanks!

Just tried it, you are right it work fine.

Quote:

Originally Posted by broms (Post 17852713)

There is currently an issue with the Routing Rules Engine for certain Fares. If there are any particular one(s) you are interested in, please feel free to PM their details (city pair/carrier/Fare Basis) and we will look them up for you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by pauldepape (Post 17851826)

I'm new to the Tool.

Welcome to the KVS Tool!

Quote:

Originally Posted by pauldepape (Post 17851826)

Sometimes it does not show the awards. I'm looking at SEA to CDG on 12 Sep. There's lots of availability, but when I switch to Awards, I get "No Award Availability/Route too complex/Date-out-of-range"

There's probably some filter I need to turn off or on.

My goal is to find a Biz seat TATL, going on 12 Sep, returning on 22 Sep.
I'll being going on to Krakow, Poland (KRK) and returning from Prague, Czech. I may just purchase an EasyJet ticket from and too Paris, since there are very few match connecting flights with awards.

The [Awards/SkyTeam] Method will only show flight combinations that actually have Award Availability, so you need to split your search into segments.

As can be seen from the data below, there are award seats on the Trans-Atlantic hub-to-hub portion, but intra-US Standard ("Low") Award Availability on DL is non-existent:

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.2/Diamond - WSpan: Awards/DL-SkyTeam]

Code:

SEA  Seattle Metro / Seattle/Tacoma Intl WA US = SEA BFI [KSEA]

LAX  Los Angeles Intl CA US [KLAX]

WED  12 Sep 2012 | 1 Seat



Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability

---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------

DL         2150    SEA   18:00     SLC   20:56     738  0   FM+  YM+

 -> DL     2041    SLC   21:45     LAX   22:38     757  0   FM+  YM+

DL         1634    SEA   06:00     SLC   09:05     757  0   FM+  YM+

 -> DL/OO  4701    SLC   09:45     LAX   10:40     CR9  0   FM+  YM+

DL         2050    SEA   07:06     SLC   10:00     320  0   FM+  YM+

 -> DL     1299    SLC   11:30     LAX   12:30     757  0   FM+  YM+

DL         1457    SEA   15:40     SLC   18:34     738  0   FM+  YM+

 -> DL     1211    SLC   20:10     LAX   21:12     757  0   FM+  YM+

DL         1857    SEA   10:10     SLC   13:09     320  0   FM+  YM+

 -> DL     2241    SLC   15:05     LAX   16:00     738  0   FM+  YM+

DL         1634    SEA   06:00     SLC   09:05     757  0   FM+  YM+

 -> DL     1299    SLC   11:30     LAX   12:30     757  0   FM+  YM+

DL         1457    SEA   15:40     SLC   18:34     738  0   FM+  YM+

 -> DL     2041    SLC   21:45     LAX   22:38     757  0   FM+  YM+

DL         2157    SEA   13:15     SLC   16:15     757  0   FM+  YM+

 -> DL     1211    SLC   20:10     LAX   21:12     757  0   FM+  YM+

DL         2157    SEA   13:15     SLC   16:15     757  0   FA+  YA+

 -> DL/OO  4703    SLC   17:00     LAX   17:53     CR9  0   FA+  YA+

DL         1857    SEA   10:10     SLC   13:09     320  0   FA+  YA+

 -> DL/OO  4703    SLC   17:00     LAX   17:53     CR9  0   FA+  YA+

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.2/Diamond - Amadeus: Awards/SkyTeam/US-AF]

Code:

LAX  Los Angeles Intl CA US [KLAX]

PAR  Paris Metro FR = CDG ORY BVA XPG XJY

WED  12 Sep 2012 | 1 Seat



Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive         St  Availability

---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------

AF         65      LAX   15:55     CDG   11:30 +1           CX-  WS+  YX-

AF         69      LAX   18:45     CDG   14:15 +1           CX-  WS+  YX-

AF         77      LAX   21:35     CDG   17:00 +1           CX-  WS+  YX-

AZ         621     LAX   15:25     FCO   12:15 +1           CS+  WX/  YS+

 -> AZ     324     FCO   14:30 +1  CDG   16:40 +1

AZ         621     LAX   15:25     FCO   12:15 +1           CS+  WX/  YS+

 -> AZ     330     FCO   15:35 +1  CDG   17:45 +1

AZ         621     LAX   15:25     FCO   12:15 +1           CS+  WX/  YS+

 -> AZ     326     FCO   17:05 +1  CDG   19:15 +1

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.2/Diamond - Amadeus: Awards/SkyTeam/UK-AF]

Code:

PAR  Paris Metro FR = CDG ORY BVA XPG XJY

KRK  Krakow J Paul II Intl PL [EPKK]

THU  13 Sep 2012 | 1 Seat



Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive         St  Availability

---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------

AF         1382    CDG   07:15     PRG   08:50              CS+

 -> OK     772     PRG   12:10     KRK   13:30

OK         759     CDG   09:50     PRG   11:35              CS+

 -> OK     772     PRG   12:10     KRK   13:30

AF         1386    CDG   09:50     PRG   11:35              CS+

 -> OK     772     PRG   12:10     KRK   13:30

Amadeus Seat Maps don't seem to be working. No matter which flight I choose I get a popup that says "Error accessing the Seat Map engine." Amadeus - Enhanced seat maps seem to be working fine though

Same problem here - since yesterday.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jasonvr (Post 17858501)

Amadeus Seat Maps don't seem to be working. No matter which flight I choose I get a popup that says "Error accessing the Seat Map engine." Amadeus - Enhanced seat maps seem to be working fine though

Quote:

Originally Posted by World_Traveler (Post 17858512)

Same problem here - since yesterday.

Please download KVS Tool V6.9.2, which will restore access to the [Amadeus-Text] Seat Map option.

Amadeus Seat Map from Ver 6.9.2

I have been getting something like this for AC flights in Business class:
[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.2/Diamond - Amadeus Seat Map: 26 Jan 2012/AC 1/YYZ-NRT/77W/C-Business]

Code:

     A    |   D   G    |   K    

 1   -        +   P        -    

 2   -        +   P        -    

 3   -        +   P        -    

 4   -        +   -        -    

 5   -        +   -        -    

 6   -        -   -        -    

 7            +   P             

 8   -        +   P        -    

 9   -        +   P        -    

10   -        +   P        -    

11   -        +   P        -    



[+] Available     [W] Wing       [L] Lavatory  

[-] Unavailable   [E] Exit Row   [U] Upper Deck

[P] Preferred

P means preferred seats and those seats indicated are definitely not. I guess they mean the seats are still available but should have been indicated by + instead of P.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jarusoba (Post 17865456)

I have been getting something like this for AC flights in Business class:

P means preferred seats and those seats indicated are definitely not.

The [P] Seat Attribute is coming from AC and they have multiple types/levels of Preferred Seats.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jarusoba (Post 17865456)

I guess they mean the seats are still available but should have been indicated by + instead of P.

Indeed, all [P] Seats are, in fact, available, so [P] can be treated the same as [+], when the Premium designation is not relevant for your purposes.

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.2/Diamond - Amadeus Seat Map: 01 Oct 2012/AC 1/YYZ-NRT/77W/Y-Economy]

Code:

     A   B   C    |   D   E   G    |   H   J   K    

18   -   -            -   -   -            -   -    [W]

19   P   P   -        P   P   P        -   P   P    [W]

20   P   P   P        P   P   P        P   P   P    [W]

21   P   P   P        P   P   P        P   P   P    [W]

22   P   P   P        P   P   P        P   P   P    [W]

23   P   P   P        P   P   P        P   P   P    [W]

24   P   P   P        P   P   P        P   P   P    [W]

25   P   P            P   P   P            P   P    [W]

30                    -   -   -                     [W]

31   -   -   -        +   +   P        -   -   -    [W] [E]

32   +   +   -        +   +   P        +   +   +    [W]

33   +   +   +        +   +   P        +   +   +    [W]

34   +   +   +        +   +   P        +   +   +    [W]

35   +   +   +        +   +   P        +   +   +    [W]

36   +   +   +        +   +   P        +   +   +    [W]

37   +   +   +        +   +   P        +   +   +    [W]

38   +   +   +        +   +   P        +   +   +    [W]

39   +   +   +        +   +   P        +   +   +    [W]

40   +   +   +        +   +   P        +   +   +    

41   +   +   +        +   +   P        +   +   +    

42   +   +   +        +   +   P        +   +   +    

43   +   +   +        +   +   P        +   +   +    

50   -   -   -                         -   -   -    [E]

51   +   +   +        -   -   -        +   +   +    

52   +   +   +        +   +   P        +   +   +    

53   +   +   +        +   +   P        +   +   +    

54   +   +   +        +   +   P        +   +   +    

55   +   +   +        +   +   P        +   +   +    

56   +   +   +        +   +   P        +   +   +    

57   +   +   +        +   +   P        +   +   +    

58   +   +   +        +   +   P        +   +   +    

59   +   +   +        +   +   P        +   +   +    

60   +   +   +        +   +   P        +   +   +    

61   +   +   +        +   +   P        +   +   +    

62   -   -            -   -   -            -   -    

63   -   -            -   -   -            -   -    



[+] Available     [W] Wing       [L] Lavatory  

[-] Unavailable   [E] Exit Row   [U] Upper Deck

[P] Preferred

A slight anomaly

I did a check for the AC2 on Jan 30. It returned 0 across the board.
[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.2/Diamond - Sabre: Availability/FS/US]

Code:

NRT  Tokyo Narita JP [RJAA]

YYZ  Toronto Pearson Intl ON CA [CYYZ]

MON  30 Jan 2012



Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability

---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -----------------------------------------------------------------

AC         2       NRT   17:00     YYZ   15:00     77W      R0 Y0 B0 M0 U0 H0 Q0 V0 W0 S0 T0 L0 K0 N0 G0 P0 E0 J0 C0 D0 Z0

AC/##      6264    NRT   09:50     HKG   14:00     763      Y7 B7 M7 U0 H0 Q0 V0 W0 S0 T0 L0 K0 J0 C0 D0 Z0

 -> AC     16      HKG   16:20     YYZ   18:00     77L      R0 Y7 B7 M7 U7 H7 Q7 V7 N7 W7 G7 S7 P7 T7 E7 L7 K7 J7 C7 D7 Z7

AC/##      6264    NRT   09:50     HKG   14:00     763      Y7 B7 M7 U0 H0 Q0 V0 W0 S0 T0 L0 K0 J0 C0 D0 Z0

 -> AC     8       HKG   19:10     YYZ   23:50     77W      R7 Y7 B7 M7 U7 H7 Q7 V7 N7 W7 G0 S7 P7 T7 E7 L7 A0 K7 J7 C7 D7 Z7

AC/NH      6232    NRT   17:05     LAX   09:45     77W      Y7 B7 M7 U7 H7 Q7 V7 W7 S7 T7 L7 K7 J7 C7 D7 Z7

 -> AC     792     LAX   11:55     YYZ   19:25     763      R7 Y7 B7 M7 U7 H7 Q7 V7 N7 W7 G7 S7 P0 T0 E0 L0 A0 K0 J7 C7 D7 Z7

AC/NH      6232    NRT   17:05     LAX   09:45     77W      Y7 B7 M7 U7 H7 Q7 V7 W7 S7 T7 L7 K7 J7 C7 D7 Z7

 -> AC     796     LAX   15:15     YYZ   22:48     319      R7 Y7 B7 M7 U7 H7 Q7 V7 N7 W7 G7 S0 P0 T0 E0 L0 A0 K0 J7 C7 D7 Z7

AC/NH      6232    NRT   17:05     LAX   09:45     77W      Y7 B7 M7 U7 H7 Q7 V7 W7 S7 T7 L7 K7 J7 C7 D7 Z7

 -> AC     788     LAX   21:50     YYZ   05:27     320      R7 Y7 B7 M7 U7 H7 Q7 V7 N7 W7 G7 S7 P0 T0 E0 L0 A0 K0 J7 C7 D7 Z7

AC         4       NRT   19:10     YVR   11:05     763      R3 Y8 B8 M5 U5 H5 Q5 V4 W2 S0 T0 L0 K0 N4 G0 P0 E0 J9 C9 D7 Z3

 -> AC     64      YVR   13:00     YYZ   20:29     763      R0 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L0 K0 N9 G9 P9 E9 A0 J9 C9 D6 Z5

AC         4       NRT   19:10     YVR   11:05     763      R3 Y8 B8 M5 U5 H5 Q5 V4 W2 S0 T0 L0 K0 N4 G0 P0 E0 J9 C9 D7 Z3

 -> AC     148     YVR   14:00     YYZ   21:25     320      R0 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L0 K0 N9 G9 P9 E9 A0 J9 C9 D2 Z1

AC         4       NRT   19:10     YVR   11:05     763      R3 Y8 B8 M5 U5 H5 Q5 V4 W2 S0 T0 L0 K0 N4 G0 P0 E0 J9 C9 D7 Z3

 -> AC     100     YVR   15:00     YYZ   22:25     320      R1 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L0 K0 N9 G9 P9 E9 A0 J9 C9 D2 Z1

AC         4       NRT   19:10     YVR   11:05     763      R7 Y7 B7 M7 U7 H7 Q7 V7 N7 W7 G0 S0 P0 T0 E0 L0 K0 J7 C7 D7 Z7

 -> AC     8       YVR   16:30     YYZ   23:50     77W      R9 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9 N9 G9 P9 E9 A9 J9 C9 D9 Z9

I didn't believe that. So I did another search for YYZ-LGA and it turns out the flight is far from being full:

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.2/Diamond - Sabre: Availability/FS/US]

Code:

NRT  Tokyo Narita JP [RJAA]

LGA  New York La Guardia NY US [KLGA]

MON  30 Jan 2012



Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability

---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  --------------------------------------------------------------

AC         2       NRT   17:00     YYZ   15:00     77W      R9 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9 N9 G9 P9 E9 J9 C9 D9 Z9

 -> AC     720     YYZ   17:15     LGA   18:47     E90      R8 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9 N9 G9 A9 J9 C9 D8 Z8

AC         2       NRT   17:00     YYZ   15:00     77W      R9 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9 N9 G9 P9 E9 J9 C9 D9 Z9

 -> AC     722     YYZ   18:15     LGA   19:49     E75      R3 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9 N9 G9 A9 J6 C6 D3 Z3

AC         2       NRT   17:00     YYZ   15:00     77W      R9 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9 N9 G9 P9 E9 J9 C9 D9 Z9

 -> AC     724     YYZ   19:15     LGA   20:46     E90      R3 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9 N9 G9 A9 J7 C7 D4 Z4

AC         2       NRT   17:00     YYZ   15:00     77W      R9 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9 N9 G9 P9 E9 J9 C9 D9 Z9

 -> AC     726     YYZ   20:30     LGA   21:57     E90      R7 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9 N9 G9 A9 J9 C9 D7 Z7

Is there a reason for this?

It can't be married segments. I did another search with the Galileo method for R space and it came out R9

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.2/Diamond - Galileo: Availability/ETR/JP]

Code:

NRT  Tokyo Narita JP [RJAA]

YYZ  Toronto Pearson Intl ON CA [CYYZ]

MON  30 Jan 2012



Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability

---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------

AC         2       NRT   17:00     YYZ   15:00     77W  0   R9

AC         4       NRT   19:10     YVR   11:05     763  0   R3

 -> AC     100     YVR   15:00     YYZ   22:25     320  0   R1

AC         4       NRT   19:10     YVR   11:05     763  0   R3

 -> AC     8       YVR   16:30     YYZ   23:50     77W  0   R9

AC         4       NRT   19:10     YVR   11:05     763  0   R3

 -> WS     626     YVR   16:30     YYZ   23:55     73W  0   R7

AC         4       NRT   19:10     YVR   11:05     763  0   R3

 -> WS     470     YVR   14:00     YHM   23:59     73W  2   R7

:confused:

Quote:

Originally Posted by jarusoba (Post 17867148)

I did a check for the AC2 on Jan 30. It returned 0 across the board.

:confused:

Transient?

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.2/Diamond - Sabre: Availability/FS/US]

Code:

NRT  Tokyo Narita JP [RJAA]

YYZ  Toronto Pearson Intl ON CA [CYYZ]

MON  30 Jan 2012



Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability

---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -----------------------------------------------------------------

AC         2       NRT   17:00     YYZ   15:00     77W      R9 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9 N9 G9 P9 E9 J9 C9 D9 Z9

AC/##      6264    NRT   09:50     HKG   14:00     763      Y7 B7 M7 U0 H0 Q0 V0 W0 S0 T0 L0 K0 J0 C0 D0 Z0

 -> AC     16      HKG   16:20     YYZ   18:00     77L      R0 Y7 B7 M7 U7 H7 Q7 V7 N7 W7 G7 S7 P7 T7 E7 L7 K7 J7 C7 D7 Z7

AC/##      6264    NRT   09:50     HKG   14:00     763      Y7 B7 M7 U0 H0 Q0 V0 W0 S0 T0 L0 K0 J0 C0 D0 Z0

 -> AC     8       HKG   19:10     YYZ   23:50     77W      R7 Y7 B7 M7 U7 H7 Q7 V7 N7 W7 G0 S7 P7 T7 E7 L7 A0 K7 J7 C7 D7 Z7

AC/NH      6232    NRT   17:05     LAX   09:45     77W      Y7 B7 M7 U7 H7 Q7 V7 W7 S7 T7 L7 K7 J7 C7 D7 Z7

 -> AC     792     LAX   11:55     YYZ   19:25     763      R7 Y7 B7 M7 U7 H7 Q7 V7 N7 W7 G7 S7 P0 T0 E0 L0 A0 K0 J7 C7 D7 Z7

AC/NH      6232    NRT   17:05     LAX   09:45     77W      Y7 B7 M7 U7 H7 Q7 V7 W7 S7 T7 L7 K7 J7 C7 D7 Z7

 -> AC     796     LAX   15:15     YYZ   22:48     319      R7 Y7 B7 M7 U7 H7 Q7 V7 N7 W7 G7 S0 P0 T0 E0 L0 A0 K0 J7 C7 D7 Z7

AC/NH      6232    NRT   17:05     LAX   09:45     77W      Y7 B7 M7 U7 H7 Q7 V7 W7 S7 T7 L7 K7 J7 C7 D7 Z7

 -> AC     788     LAX   21:50     YYZ   05:27     320      R7 Y7 B7 M7 U7 H7 Q7 V7 N7 W7 G7 S7 P0 T0 E0 L0 A0 K0 J7 C7 D7 Z7

AC         4       NRT   19:10     YVR   11:05     763      R3 Y8 B8 M5 U5 H5 Q5 V4 W2 S0 T0 L0 K0 N4 G0 P0 E0 J9 C9 D7 Z3

 -> AC     64      YVR   13:00     YYZ   20:29     763      R0 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L0 K0 N9 G9 P9 E9 A0 J9 C9 D6 Z5

AC         4       NRT   19:10     YVR   11:05     763      R3 Y8 B8 M5 U5 H5 Q5 V4 W2 S0 T0 L0 K0 N4 G0 P0 E0 J9 C9 D7 Z3

 -> AC     148     YVR   14:00     YYZ   21:25     320      R0 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L0 K0 N9 G9 P9 E9 A0 J9 C9 D2 Z1

AC         4       NRT   19:10     YVR   11:05     763      R3 Y8 B8 M5 U5 H5 Q5 V4 W2 S0 T0 L0 K0 N4 G0 P0 E0 J9 C9 D7 Z3

 -> AC     100     YVR   15:00     YYZ   22:25     320      R1 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L0 K0 N9 G9 P9 E9 A0 J9 C9 D2 Z1

AC         4       NRT   19:10     YVR   11:05     763      R7 Y7 B7 M7 U7 H7 Q7 V7 N7 W7 G0 S0 P0 T0 E0 L0 K0 J7 C7 D7 Z7

 -> AC     8       YVR   16:30     YYZ   23:50     77W      R9 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9 N9 G9 P9 E9 A9 J9 C9 D9 Z9

Quote:

Originally Posted by jasonvr (Post 17867194)

Transient?

Indeed. Everything is back to normal now. This has been going on for at least an hour!

Just wanted to say that this tool has been very helpful so far. I am looking for a U class reward on CX next november and the same on a KA flight. I signed up as a diamond member and this tool has been a lot of fun and helpful. Still waiting for CX to release the inventory though!

Thanks for making this tool available!