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gsforfree Feb 10, 2012 12:00 pm


Originally Posted by neuro0 (Post 17989157)
The following error keep coming up:

Unsupported route/engine error

I was doing a search on HKG - SFO.

any idea?


Sames thing here, doing a search HKG-JFK all classed.

KVS Feb 10, 2012 12:42 pm


Originally Posted by russrjbr (Post 17988873)
Hi, I'm very interested in using the tool but before place a financial commitment I'd like to try it first (diamond) even if its for a day or two to see if it attends my demands.

Welcome to FT -- YGM!

KVS Feb 10, 2012 12:44 pm


Originally Posted by neuro0 (Post 17989157)
The following error keep coming up:

Unsupported route/engine error

I was doing a search on HKG - SFO.

any idea?


Originally Posted by gsforfree (Post 17989941)
Sames thing here, doing a search HKG-JFK all classed.

The datalink between JL & CX is currently down -- please try again later or use the [Awards/OneWorld] / [Awards/BA-OneWorld] / [Awards/CX] Methods instead.

Dorian Feb 10, 2012 3:39 pm

http://i.imgur.com/XLwFU.jpg

former230 Feb 10, 2012 7:04 pm

CX/KA reservation system is down this weekend(thus affecting KVS inquiries)...I got an email from them last week preparing me for this outage...states:

On 11 and 12 February, Cathay Pacific and Dragonair will upgrade their passenger reservation system to ensure they can continue meeting their passengers' needs in the future.

During the transition, it will be necessary for them to temporarily suspend some of their services, including their websites – www.cathaypacific.com and www.dragonair.com – which will go entirely offline worldwide at 3pm on 11 February, Hong Kong time (GMT+8). They will be brought back online in stages throughout the day on 12 February, and the majority of services on the site will be available by approximately 8pm that day.

What will happen during this period (3pm Hong Kong time, 11 February, to approximately 8pm Hong Kong time, 12 February)

•Reservations and ticketing services will not be available, so it will not be possible to make new bookings or change existing bookings, including redemption bookings or upgrades on
Cathay Pacific , Dragonair, and all other Asia Miles partner airlines.
•Online and mobile services will not be available, including online booking,online redemption, online ticket change, online check-in, printing eTickets, boarding passes, flight information, Advance Seat Reservation, special meal requests, and others.

KVS Feb 11, 2012 5:13 pm


Originally Posted by Dorian (Post 17991286)

As per the Error Message, the [Galileo: ETR] Engine was temporarily unavailable.

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.5/Diamond - Galileo: Availability/ETR/JP]
Code:

YVR  Vancouver Metro / Intl BC CA = YVR CXH [CYVR]
HKG  Hong Kong Intl HK [VHHH]
SAT  18 Feb 2012

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------
AC        7      YVR  11:40    HKG  17:20 +1  77W  0  J1


abdon Feb 13, 2012 9:50 am

hi guys,

i am new to KVS Tool but I am very interested in fare routing rules. Can anyone tell me why in 90% of situations these rules are not available?

cheers.

KVS Feb 13, 2012 12:00 pm


Originally Posted by abdon (Post 18006399)
i am new to KVS Tool but I am very interested in fare routing rules. Can anyone tell me why in 90% of situations these rules are not available?

Could you please provide a specific Route/Fare Basis?

abdon Feb 13, 2012 12:21 pm


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 18007341)
Could you please provide a specific Route/Fare Basis?

sure, eg. :
FRA-NYC: OL7E6J

generally, the cheapest fares don't have fare routing rules available.

KVS Feb 13, 2012 1:58 pm


Originally Posted by abdon (Post 18007487)
sure, eg. :
FRA-NYC: OL7E6J

All AA Fares on that route are MPM-based:

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.5/Diamond - Routing Rules: FRA-NYC/AA/OLE7Q7G1/116 USD]
Code:

FRANYC-AA 01MAR12      *RULE DISPLAY*    TARIFF 0001 RULE J699
* ADD APPLICABLE TAX * FED INSP FEES *                         
  -FARE BASIS        EUR      NUC                PTC  FT  GI
OLE7Q7G1        R    88.00    117.93              ADT  EX  AT
OLE7Q7G1CH      R    88.00    117.93              CNN  EX  AT
OLE7Q7G1CH      R    88.00    117.93              INS  EX  AT
OLE7Q7G1IN      R      9.00    12.06              INF  EX  AT
OLE7Q7G1        R    88.00    117.93              UNN  EX  AT
OLE7Q7G1        R    88.00    117.93              SRC  EX  AT
BOOKING CODES        O                                         
PFCS MAY VARY BY RTG                                           
INDUSTRY FARE TYPE - XAN - APEX NONREFUNDABLE                 
MPM - AT  4621 VIA NORTH ATLANTIC
---------------------------------------------------------------

ROUTING MPM  MPM TRVL PERMITTED


KVS Feb 13, 2012 8:04 pm


Originally Posted by former230 (Post 17992195)
CX/KA reservation system is down this weekend(thus affecting KVS inquiries)...I got an email from them last week preparing me for this outage...states:

Update has been posted in the http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/catha...l#post18010448 thread.

jasonvr Feb 14, 2012 8:39 pm


Originally Posted by abdon (Post 18007487)
sure, eg. :
FRA-NYC: OL7E6J

generally, the cheapest fares don't have fare routing rules available.


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 18008281)
All AA Fares on that route are MPM-based:

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.5/Diamond - Routing Rules: FRA-NYC/AA/OLE7Q7G1/116 USD]
Code:

FRANYC-AA 01MAR12      *RULE DISPLAY*    TARIFF 0001 RULE J699
* ADD APPLICABLE TAX * FED INSP FEES *                         
  -FARE BASIS        EUR      NUC                PTC  FT  GI
OLE7Q7G1        R    88.00    117.93              ADT  EX  AT
OLE7Q7G1CH      R    88.00    117.93              CNN  EX  AT
OLE7Q7G1CH      R    88.00    117.93              INS  EX  AT
OLE7Q7G1IN      R      9.00    12.06              INF  EX  AT
OLE7Q7G1        R    88.00    117.93              UNN  EX  AT
OLE7Q7G1        R    88.00    117.93              SRC  EX  AT
BOOKING CODES        O                                         
PFCS MAY VARY BY RTG                                           
INDUSTRY FARE TYPE - XAN - APEX NONREFUNDABLE                 
MPM - AT  4621 VIA NORTH ATLANTIC
---------------------------------------------------------------

ROUTING MPM  MPM TRVL PERMITTED


Here's another where the routing rules can't be pulled up

LAX-PHL SA14FN
LAX-PHL SAG7GS

Both on either UA or CO

I get "No fare in system"

KVS Feb 14, 2012 8:50 pm


Originally Posted by jasonvr (Post 18017283)
Here's another where the routing rules can't be pulled up

LAX-PHL SA14FN
LAX-PHL SAG7GS

Both on either UA or CO

I get "No fare in system"

Likewise, all UA/CO S-Class Fares on that route use the same Routing #947, so you can just retrieve the Routing Rules for any other S-Class Fare:

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.5/Diamond - Routing Rules: LAX-PHL/UA/SE213FN/263 USD]
Code:

LAXPHL-UA 01MAR12      *RULE DISPLAY*    TARIFF 0011 RULE 70F2
  -FARE BASIS        USD      TAX      TOTAL    PTC  FT   
SE213FN        R    515.35    38.65      554.00  ADT  EX   
SE213FN        R    515.35    38.65      554.00  CNN  EX   
SE213FN        R      0.00      0.00        0.00  INF  EX   
SE213FN        R    515.35    38.65      554.00  INS  EX   
SE213FN        R    515.35    38.65      554.00  JNN  EX   
SE213FN        R      0.00      0.00        0.00  JNF  EX   
SE213FN        R    515.35    38.65      554.00  JNS  EX   
BOOKING CODES        S                                         
PFCS MAY VARY BY RTG                                           
INDUSTRY FARE TYPE - XPN - INSTANT PURCHASE NONREFUNDABLE
---------------------------------------------------------------

ROUTING  947 *** TRAVEL MUST NOT BE NONSTOP ***               
        947 FROM-TO  LAX-CHI/DEN/HOU-CLE/CHI/EWR/WAS/PHL/     
                      CLT-PHL*                                 
            FROM-TO  LAX-CHI/DEN/HOU-PHL*                     
            FROM-TO  LAX-SFO/LAX-CHI/DEN/HOU-CLE/CHI/EWR/     
                      WAS/PHL/CLT-PHL*                         
            FROM-TO  LAX-SFO/LAX-CHI/DEN/HOU-PHL*


jasonvr Feb 14, 2012 10:16 pm


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 18017326)
Likewise, all UA/CO S-Class Fares on that route use the same Routing #947, so you can just retrieve the Routing Rules for any other S-Class Fare:

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.5/Diamond - Routing Rules: LAX-PHL/UA/SE213FN/263 USD]
Code:

LAXPHL-UA 01MAR12      *RULE DISPLAY*    TARIFF 0011 RULE 70F2
  -FARE BASIS        USD      TAX      TOTAL    PTC  FT   
SE213FN        R    515.35    38.65      554.00  ADT  EX   
SE213FN        R    515.35    38.65      554.00  CNN  EX   
SE213FN        R      0.00      0.00        0.00  INF  EX   
SE213FN        R    515.35    38.65      554.00  INS  EX   
SE213FN        R    515.35    38.65      554.00  JNN  EX   
SE213FN        R      0.00      0.00        0.00  JNF  EX   
SE213FN        R    515.35    38.65      554.00  JNS  EX   
BOOKING CODES        S                                         
PFCS MAY VARY BY RTG                                           
INDUSTRY FARE TYPE - XPN - INSTANT PURCHASE NONREFUNDABLE
---------------------------------------------------------------

ROUTING  947 *** TRAVEL MUST NOT BE NONSTOP ***               
        947 FROM-TO  LAX-CHI/DEN/HOU-CLE/CHI/EWR/WAS/PHL/     
                      CLT-PHL*                                 
            FROM-TO  LAX-CHI/DEN/HOU-PHL*                     
            FROM-TO  LAX-SFO/LAX-CHI/DEN/HOU-CLE/CHI/EWR/     
                      WAS/PHL/CLT-PHL*                         
            FROM-TO  LAX-SFO/LAX-CHI/DEN/HOU-PHL*


How does one tell that all S fares use the same routing (or even specifically routing 947)?

derekmines Feb 15, 2012 12:36 am

I have a query regarding KVS if a regular user would be so kind....

I need to book a flight from LHR to SEA at some point during mid Sept, staying for around 16 days or so.
The dates are in no way fixed so I can work around a good flight price.

Ideally I'd like to buy a WT+ seat and upgrade to J using my Avios, but BA's site is currently showing no upgrade availability to SEA on any day.

Can KVS give me the information I need to make a booking at the best price possible given the date parameters?
I have no issue in paying for the software, but there's not much point if it can't do what I need.

Thanks in advance.


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