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FlyerGoldII Mar 10, 2012 6:13 pm

The DotRes method does not work for me, as implied by your KVS tool web site.

The ATP method does not work for me, at least for any route (between Canada and either New Zealand or Australia) dealing with Air New Zealand - I get the message that "no matching fares found"

The Galileo method does find the routing rules for economy fares; when I try business class fares, I get the message "no fare in system".




Originally Posted by KVS (Post 18148849)
The Routing Rules for NZ Fares on the YOW-PER are shown below:

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.6/Diamond - Routing Rules: YOW-PER/NZ/Z3CA/14873 USD]
Code:

YOWPER-NZ 01APR12      *RULE DISPLAY*    TARIFF 0003 RULE 4011
* ADD APPLICABLE TAX * FED INSP FEES *                         
  -FARE BASIS        CAD      NUC                PTC  FT  GI
Z3CA            R  14668.00  14454.64              ADT  EX  PA
Z3CACH          R  14668.00  14454.64              CNN  EX  PA
Z3CAINF        R  1467.00  1445.66              INF  EX  PA
Z3CA            R  14668.00  14454.64              INS  EX  PA
Z3CA            R  14668.00  14454.64              UNN  EX  PA
BOOKING CODES        Z                                         
INDUSTRY FARE TYPE - BX - BUSINESS CLASS EXCURSION             
MPM - PA 13899 VIA PACIFIC
---------------------------------------------------------------

CONSTRUCTED ROUTING - SPECIFIED 229              DEST ADD 15   
            FROM-TO  YOW-AA-CHI-AA-LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA-HNL       
                      -AKL-PER*                               
            FROM-TO  YOW-AA-CHI-AA-LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA-HNL       
                      -AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG-BHE/NSN-CHC     
                      -DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*               
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YMQ-NZ/AC-YVR-NZ/AC/UA-LAX       
                      -NAN/PPT/RAR-AKL-PER*                   
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YMQ-NZ/AC-YVR-NZ/AC/UA-LAX       
                      -NAN/PPT/RAR-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG     
                      -BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*   
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YMQ-NZ/AC/AC-YVR-NZ/AC/UA/AC/     
                      UA-SFO/HNL-AKL-PER*                     
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YMQ-NZ/AC/AC-YVR-NZ/AC/UA/AC/     
                      UA-SFO/HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG       
                      -BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*   
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-AA-BOS/STL-AA-LAX-NZ/UA/     
                      CO/HA-HNL-AKL-PER*                       
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-AA-BOS/STL-AA-LAX-NZ/UA/     
                      CO/HA-HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG       
                      -BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*   
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-AA-CHI-AA-LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA     
                      -HNL-AKL-PER*                           
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-AA-CHI-AA-LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA     
                      -HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG-BHE/NSN     
                      -CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*           
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-AC-YYC-NZ/AC-SFO/LAX-NZ/     
                      UA/CO/HA-HNL-AKL-PER*                   
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-AC-YYC-NZ/AC-SFO/LAX-NZ/     
                      UA/CO/HA-HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG     
                      -BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*   
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-AC-YYC-NZ/AC-YVR-NZ/AC/UA     
                      -LAX-NAN/PPT/RAR-AKL-PER*               
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-AC-YYC-NZ/AC-YVR-NZ/AC/UA     
                      -LAX-NAN/PPT/RAR-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL     
                      -WLG-BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL     
                      -PER*                                   
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-AC-YYC-NZ/AC/AC-YVR-NZ/AC/   
                      UA/AC/UA-SFO/HNL-AKL-PER*               
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-AC-YYC-NZ/AC/AC-YVR-NZ/AC/   
                      UA/AC/UA-SFO/HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL     
                      -WLG-BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL     
                      -PER*                                   
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-CO-CLE/HOU-CO-SFO/LAX-NZ/     
                      UA/CO/HA-HNL-AKL-PER*                   
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-CO-CLE/HOU-CO-SFO/LAX-NZ/     
                      UA/CO/HA-HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG     
                      -BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*   
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA-HNL     
                      -AKL-PER*                               
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA-HNL     
                      -AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG-BHE/NSN-CHC     
                      -DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*               
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-LAX-NAN/PPT/RAR-AKL     
                      -PER*                                   
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-LAX-NAN/PPT/RAR-AKL     
                      -ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG-BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/   
                      ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*                     
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-SFO-NZ/UA/CO/HA-HNL     
                      -AKL-PER*                               
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-SFO-NZ/UA/CO/HA-HNL     
                      -AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG-BHE/NSN-CHC     
                      -DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*               
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-SFO-UA-LAX-NZ/UA/CO/   
                      HA-HNL-AKL-PER*                         
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-SFO-UA-LAX-NZ/UA/CO/   
                      HA-HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG-BHE/     
                      NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*         
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-SFO-AKL-PER*           
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-SFO-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/   
                      NPL-WLG-BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG     
                      -AKL-PER*                               
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-SFO/LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA     
                      -HNL-AKL-PER*                           
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-SFO/LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA     
                      -HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG-BHE/NSN     
                      -CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*           
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-YVR-AS-SEA-AS-SFO/     
                      LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA-HNL-AKL-PER*             
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-YVR-AS-SEA-AS-SFO/     
                      LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA-HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/     
                      NPL-WLG-BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG     
                      -AKL-PER*                               
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-YVR-NZ/AC/UA-LAX       
                      -NAN/PPT/RAR-AKL-PER*                   
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-YVR-NZ/AC/UA-LAX       
                      -NAN/PPT/RAR-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG     
                      -BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*   
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-YVR-NZ/AC/UA/AC/UA     
                      -SFO/HNL-AKL-PER*                       
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-YVR-NZ/AC/UA/AC/UA     
                      -SFO/HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG-BHE/   
                      NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*         
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-YVR-UA-SFO-UA-LAX       
                      -NZ/UA/CO/HA-HNL-AKL-PER*               
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-YVR-UA-SFO-UA-LAX       
                      -NZ/UA/CO/HA-HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL     
                      -WLG-BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL     
                      -PER*                                   
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-YVR-US-LAS-US-SFO/     
                      LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA-HNL-AKL-PER*             
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-YVR-US-LAS-US-SFO/     
                      LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA-HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/     
                      NPL-WLG-BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG     
                      -AKL-PER*                               
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-YVR-US-PHX-US-SFO/     
                      LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA-HNL-AKL-PER*             
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-YVR-US-PHX-US-SFO/     
                      LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA-HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/     
                      NPL-WLG-BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG     
                      -AKL-PER*                               
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-YVR-AKL-PER*           
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-YVR-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/   
                      NPL-WLG-BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG     
                      -AKL-PER*                               
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC/AC-YVR-NZ/AC/UA/AC/     
                      UA-SFO/HNL-AKL-PER*                     
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC/AC-YVR-NZ/AC/UA/AC/     
                      UA-SFO/HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG       
                      -BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*   
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-UA-CHI-UA-SFO/LAX-NZ/UA/     
                      CO/HA-HNL-AKL-PER*                       
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-UA-CHI-UA-SFO/LAX-NZ/UA/     
                      CO/HA-HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG       
                      -BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*   
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-UA-DEN-UA-SFO/LAX-NZ/UA/     
                      CO/HA-HNL-AKL-PER*                       
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-UA-DEN-UA-SFO/LAX-NZ/UA/     
                      CO/HA-HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG       
                      -BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*   
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-UA-WAS-UA-SFO/LAX-NZ/UA/     
                      CO/HA-HNL-AKL-PER*                       
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-UA-WAS-UA-SFO/LAX-NZ/UA/     
                      CO/HA-HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG       
                      -BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*   
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-US-LAS-US-SFO/LAX-NZ/UA/     
                      CO/HA-HNL-AKL-PER*                       
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-US-LAS-US-SFO/LAX-NZ/UA/     
                      CO/HA-HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG       
                      -BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*   
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-US-PHL-US-SFO/LAX-NZ/UA/     
                      CO/HA-HNL-AKL-PER*                       
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-US-PHL-US-SFO/LAX-NZ/UA/     
                      CO/HA-HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG       
                      -BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*   
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YVR-NZ/AC/UA-LAX-NAN/PPT/RAR     
                      -AKL-PER*                               
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YVR-NZ/AC/UA-LAX-NAN/PPT/RAR     
                      -AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG-BHE/NSN-CHC     
                      -DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*               
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YVR-NZ/AC/UA/AC/UA-SFO/HNL       
                      -AKL-PER*                               
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YVR-NZ/AC/UA/AC/UA-SFO/HNL       
                      -AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG-BHE/NSN-CHC     
                      -DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*               
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YYC-NZ/AC-SFO/LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA     
                      -HNL-AKL-PER*                           
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YYC-NZ/AC-SFO/LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA     
                      -HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG-BHE/NSN     
                      -CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*           
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YYC-NZ/AC-YVR-NZ/AC/UA-LAX       
                      -NAN/PPT/RAR-AKL-PER*                   
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YYC-NZ/AC-YVR-NZ/AC/UA-LAX       
                      -NAN/PPT/RAR-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG     
                      -BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*   
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YYC-NZ/AC/AC-YVR-NZ/AC/UA/AC/     
                      UA-SFO/HNL-AKL-PER*                     
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YYC-NZ/AC/AC-YVR-NZ/AC/UA/AC/     
                      UA-SFO/HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG       
                      -BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*   
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YYC-US-LAS-US-SFO/LAX-NZ/UA/     
                      CO/HA-HNL-AKL-PER*                       
            FROM-TO  YOW-CO-EWR-CO-LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA-HNL       
                      -AKL-PER*                               
            FROM-TO  YOW-CO-EWR-CO-LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA-HNL       
                      -AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG-BHE/NSN-CHC     
                      -DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*               
            FROM-TO  YOW-CO-EWR-CO-LAX-NAN/PPT/RAR-AKL       
                      -PER*                                   
            FROM-TO  YOW-CO-EWR-CO-LAX-NAN/PPT/RAR-AKL       
                      -ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG-BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/   
                      ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*                     
            FROM-TO  YOW-CO-EWR-CO-SFO-NZ/UA/CO/HA-HNL       
                      -AKL-PER*                               
            FROM-TO  YOW-CO-EWR-CO-SFO-NZ/UA/CO/HA-HNL       
                      -AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG-BHE/NSN-CHC     
                      -DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*               
            FROM-TO  YOW-CO-EWR-CO-SFO-UA-LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA     
                      -HNL-AKL-PER*                           
            FROM-TO  YOW-CO-EWR-CO-SFO-UA-LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA     
                      -HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG-BHE/NSN     
                      -CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*           
            FROM-TO  YOW-CO-EWR-CO-SFO-AKL-PER*               
            FROM-TO  YOW-CO-EWR-CO-SFO-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/       
                      NPL-WLG-BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG     
                      -AKL-PER*                               
            FROM-TO  YOW-CO-EWR-CO-SFO/LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA       
                      -HNL-AKL-PER*                           
            FROM-TO  YOW-CO-EWR-CO-SFO/LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA       
                      -HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG-BHE/NSN     
                      -CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*           
            FROM-TO  YOW-UA-CHI-UA-SFO/LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA       
                      -HNL-AKL-PER*                           
            FROM-TO  YOW-UA-CHI-UA-SFO/LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA       
                      -HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG-BHE/NSN     
                      -CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*           
            FROM-TO  YOW-UA-WAS-UA-SFO/LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA       
                      -HNL-AKL-PER*                           
            FROM-TO  YOW-UA-WAS-UA-SFO/LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA       
                      -HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG-BHE/NSN     
                      -CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*           
            FROM-TO  YOW-US-PHL-US-SFO/LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA       
                      -HNL-AKL-PER*                           
            FROM-TO  YOW-US-PHL-US-SFO/LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA       
                      -HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG-BHE/NSN     
                      -CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*           



For RTW and other special Circle Fares, please use the [Sabre: DotRes] Method:

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.6/Diamond - Sabre: Fares/DotRes/US]
Code:

YOW  Ottawa Intl ON CA [CYOW]
RTW  01 Jun 2012 | 15 Jun 2012 | Economy

Carrier    From    To    Fare      Cur                      Fare Basis/TD
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------
AC        YOW    YOW      4289  USD                      YRWSPCL
AC        YOW    YOW      6231  USD                      YRWSTAR1
AC        YOW    YOW      7256  USD                      YRWSTAR2
AC        YOW    YOW      8374  USD                      YRWSTAR3

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.6/Diamond - Sabre: Fares/DotRes/US]
Code:

YOW  Ottawa Intl ON CA [CYOW]
RTW  01 Jun 2012 | 15 Jun 2012 | Economy

Carrier    From    To    Fare      Cur                      Fare Basis/TD
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------
BA        YOW    YOW      3504  USD                      LCIRAT17
BA        YOW    YOW      3703  USD                      LONE3
BA        YOW    YOW      3803  USD                      LGLOB26
BA        YOW    YOW      3804  USD                      LCIR22
BA        YOW    YOW      4004  USD                      LCIRAT21
BA        YOW    YOW      4505  USD                      LCIR26
BA        YOW    YOW      4605  USD                      LCIRAT25
BA        YOW    YOW      5006  USD                      LCIR29SA
BA        YOW    YOW      5305  USD                      LONE4
BA        YOW    YOW      5405  USD                      LGLOB29
BA        YOW    YOW      6106  USD                      LONE5
BA        YOW    YOW      6206  USD                      LGLOB34
BA        YOW    YOW      7107  USD                      LONE6
BA        YOW    YOW      7207  USD                      LGLOB39



cbourl Mar 11, 2012 6:48 pm

Hi Is the Co-UA Upgrade tool no longer working?
ITA - Upgrades/Rewards UA
I get a Datasource Error R1 United Airlines Site Source Error

KVS Mar 11, 2012 7:27 pm


Originally Posted by FlyerGoldII (Post 18175777)
The DotRes method does not work for me, as implied by your KVS tool web site.

Which Route(s)/Cabin Class(es) are you searching for?


Originally Posted by FlyerGoldII (Post 18175777)
The ATP method does not work for me, at least for any route (between Canada and either New Zealand or Australia) dealing with Air New Zealand - I get the message that "no matching fares found"

The [Fares/FC] Engine appears to be experiencing issues with NZ Fares on that route (Fares on other carriers are accessible). Please use the [Fares/PSH] Method instead:

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.6/Diamond - Galileo: Fares/PSH/RU]
Code:

YOW  Ottawa Intl ON CA [CYOW]
AKL  Auckland Intl NZ [NZAA]
R/T  01 Apr 2012 | Business

Carrier    From    To    Fare      Cur  AdvanceP  Min  Max  Fare Basis | Travel Period
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  ---  --------------------------
NZ        YOW    AKL      7730  USD    50 Days    5  90  JN1C
NZ        YOW    AKL      8240  USD    21 Days      360  JN2C
NZ        YOW    AKL      8750  USD    21 Days      360  ZN1C
NZ        YOW    AKL      9056  USD        ***      360  J3C
NZ        YOW    AKL      9566  USD        ***      360  Z3C
NZ        YOW    AKL    10586  USD        ***      360  D3C
NZ        YOW    AKL    11773  USD        ***      360  J3COW
NZ        YOW    AKL    12436  USD        ***      360  Z3COW
NZ        YOW    AKL    12830  USD        ***      360  C3C
NZ        YOW    AKL    13762  USD        ***      360  D3COW
NZ        YOW    AKL    16679  USD        ***      360  C3COW


Originally Posted by FlyerGoldII (Post 18175777)
The Galileo method does find the routing rules for economy fares; when I try business class fares, I get the message "no fare in system".

What is City Pair/Fare Basis in question?

KVS Mar 11, 2012 7:28 pm


Originally Posted by cbourl (Post 18180977)
Hi Is the Co-UA Upgrade tool no longer working?
ITA - Upgrades/Rewards UA
I get a Datasource Error R1 United Airlines Site Source Error

The [Awards-Upgrades/UA] Method continues to function normally -- are you running the latest KVS Tool Version?

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.6/Diamond - ITA: Awards-Upgrades/UA]
Code:

NYC  New York Metro NY US = JFK LGA
LON  London Metro UK = LHR LGW STN LTN LCY QQS QQW ZLS ZEP
SUN  01 Apr 2012

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
UA        18      EWR  09:00    LHR  21:20    752      J6 JN6 C5 D4 Z4 ZN4 P4 PN4 R0 RN0 IN0 I0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9 G0 N0 XN9 X9
UA        110    EWR  18:25    LHR  06:45 +1  752      J9 JN9 C8 D6 Z6 ZN6 P6 PN6 R0 RN0 IN0 I0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9 G9 N9 XN9 X9
UA        28      EWR  19:35    LHR  07:40 +1  772      J9 JN9 C9 D9 Z9 ZN9 P9 PN9 R3 RN3 IN2 I2 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9 G9 N9 XN9 X9
UA        8      EWR  21:10    LHR  09:25 +1  752      J9 JN9 C9 D9 Z9 ZN9 P9 PN9 R1 RN1 IN1 I1 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9 G9 N9 XN9 X9
UA        114    EWR  22:05    LHR  10:15 +1  752      J9 JN9 C9 D9 Z9 ZN9 P9 PN9 R1 RN1 IN1 I1 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9 G9 N9 XN9 X9
UA        36      EWR  20:05    EDI  07:55 +1  752      J3 JN3 C3 D0 Z0 ZN0 P0 PN0 R0 RN0 IN0 I0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9 G9 N9 XN9 X9
 -> UA/BD  7702    EDI  09:05 +1  LHR  10:35 +1  320      J4 C4 D4 Z4 Y7 B7 M7 E0 U7 H0 Q0 V0 W0 S0 T0 L0 K0 G0
UA/XE      5716    JFK  06:00    IAD  07:22    CR2      Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9 G2 N2 XN9 X5
 -> UA    922    IAD  09:29    LHR  21:55    763      F4 FN4 A2 ON0 O0 J9 JN9 C9 D9 Z9 ZN9 P9 PN9 R0 RN0 IN0 I0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9 G2 N2 XN9 X5
UA/XE      5719    LGA  06:00    IAD  07:24    CR2      Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9 G9 N9 XN9 X9
 -> UA    922    IAD  09:29    LHR  21:55    763      F4 FN4 A2 ON0 O0 J9 JN9 C9 D9 Z9 ZN9 P9 PN9 R0 RN0 IN0 I0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9 G9 N9 XN9 X9
UA/XE      4640    EWR  06:15    IAD  07:36    EM4      Y4 YN4 B4 M4 E3 U2 H2 HN2 Q2 V1 W1 S1 T0 L0 K0 G0 N0 XN0 X0
 -> UA    922    IAD  09:29    LHR  21:55    763      F4 FN4 A2 ON0 O0 J9 JN9 C9 D9 Z9 ZN9 P9 PN9 R0 RN0 IN0 I0 Y4 YN4 B4 M4 E3 U2 H2 HN2 Q2 V1 W1 S1 T0 L0 K0 G0 N0 XN0 X0
UA/XE      4678    EWR  15:43    IAD  17:05    EM4      Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H2 HN2 Q2 V1 W1 S0 T0 L0 K0 G0 N0 XN0 X0
 -> UA    918    IAD  17:59    LHR  06:20 +1  772      F5 FN5 A3 ON1 O0 J9 JN9 C9 D9 Z9 ZN9 P9 PN9 R4 RN4 IN2 I2 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H2 HN2 Q2 V1 W1 S0 T0 L0 K0 G0 N0 XN0 X0
UA/XE      5714    JFK  18:59    IAD  20:22    CR2      Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9 G0 N0 XN0 X0
 -> UA    924    IAD  21:52    LHR  10:10 +1  772      F5 FN5 A5 ON1 O1 J9 JN9 C9 D9 Z9 ZN9 P9 PN9 R3 RN3 IN1 I1 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9 G0 N0 XN0 X0
UA/S5      3517    LGA  19:30    IAD  20:56    E70      F4 A4 JN4 ZN3 P3 PN3 R0 RN0 IN0 I0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9 G8 N8 XN9 X9
 -> UA    924    IAD  21:52    LHR  10:10 +1  772      F4 FN5 A4 ON1 O1 J9 JN4 C9 D9 Z9 ZN3 P3 PN3 R0 RN0 IN0 I0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9 G8 N8 XN9 X9
UA/XE      4672    EWR  19:48    IAD  21:10    EM4      Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T6 L6 K4 G0 N0 XN0 X0
 -> UA    924    IAD  21:52    LHR  10:10 +1  772      F5 FN5 A5 ON1 O1 J9 JN9 C9 D9 Z9 ZN9 P9 PN9 R3 RN3 IN1 I1 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T6 L6 K4 G0 N0 XN0 X0
UA/S5      5133    EWR  17:05    YUL  18:43    E70      F6 A6 JN6 ZN6 P6 PN6 R6 RN6 IN6 I6 Y7 YN7 B3 M3 E2 U1 H1 HN1 Q1 V1 W1 S0 T0 L0 K0 G1 N1 XN2 X2
 -> UA/AC  8296    YUL  19:50    LHR  07:30 +1  333      J4 C4 D4 Z4 Y7 B7 M7 E7 U7 H7 Q7 V7 W7 S7 T7 L7 K7 G0
UA/QK      8187    LGA  17:30    YUL  18:56    CRA      F4 A7 Y7 B7 M7 E7 U7 H7 Q7 V7 W0 S0 T0 L0 K0 G0
 -> UA/AC  8296    YUL  19:50    LHR  07:30 +1  333      J4 C4 D4 Z4 Y7 B7 M7 E7 U7 H7 Q7 V7 W7 S7 T7 L7 K7 G0


poverty.jet.set Mar 12, 2012 4:08 pm

Why can't I find my UA fare?
 
I'm new to KVS.
I searched for Fares for YYZ-PVG using method "Sabre: Fares/DotRes" and POS of "US", UA inc. codeshare
Then I check Availability of L fare on dates (UA with no codeshare), looking each direction individually (finding Sep 12 and Oct 1 return)
Then I go to UA site and use those dates, pick the same flight numbers (via SFO out, ORD back), and the fare is L outbound and S return for a total of $1,491.80
Am I doing something wrong?
(side note: this was a few hours ago that I ran both KVS and UA searches; I'm just finding time to post now)
(update: I just ran it again now and got same results)


[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.6/Diamond - Sabre: Fares/DotRes/US]
Code:

YYZ  Toronto Pearson Intl ON CA [CYYZ]
PVG  Shanghai PuDong CN [ZSPD]
R/T  12 Sep 2012 | 01 Oct 2012 | Economy

Carrier    From    To    Fare      Cur                      Fare Basis/TD
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------
AC        YTO    SHA      652  USD                      E0LXCNT
AC        YTO    SHA      672  USD                      E0LWCNT
UA        YTO    SHA      835  USD                      LLX27DM2
UA        YTO    SHA      875  USD                      LLX47DM2
UA        YTO    SHA      885  USD                      LLE74BM1
UA        YTO    SHA      895  USD                      LLW27DM2
[removed the more expensive ones for brevity]


[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.6/Diamond - Sabre: Availability/FS/US]
Code:

YYZ  Toronto Pearson Intl ON CA [CYYZ]
PVG  Shanghai PuDong CN [ZSPD]
WED  12 Sep 2012

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -----------------------------------------------------------
UA        547    YYZ  08:00    ORD  08:47    319      F4 A6 Y4 B4 E4 M4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 S4 T4 L4 K4 G4
 -> UA    835    ORD  10:23    PVG  13:55    777      F4 A4 J4 C4 D4 Z4 Y4 B4 E4 M4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 S4 T4 L4 K4 G0
UA        867    YYZ  07:00    SFO  09:41    319      F4 A5 J4 C4 D5 Z5 Y4 B4 E4 M4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 S4 T4 L4 K0 G0
 -> UA    857    SFO  13:26    PVG  17:25    744      F4 A4 J4 C4 D4 Z4 Y4 B4 E4 M4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 S4 T4 L4 K4 G0


[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.6/Diamond - Sabre: Availability/FS/US]
Code:

PVG  Shanghai PuDong CN [ZSPD]
YYZ  Toronto Pearson Intl ON CA [CYYZ]
MON  01 Oct 2012

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -----------------------------------------------------------
UA        836    PVG  15:55    ORD  16:23    777      F4 A4 J4 C4 D4 Z4 Y4 B4 E4 M4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 S4 T4 L4 K0 G0
 -> UA    843    ORD  18:15    YYZ  20:59    319      F4 A6 Y4 B4 E4 M4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 S4 T4 L4 K0 G0

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.6/Diamond - DotRes: YTO-SHA/UA/LLX27DM2/835 USD]
Code:

[Rule Application & Other Conditions]
NOTE - THE FOLLOWING TEXT IS INFORMATIONAL AND NOT
VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
PACIFIC ROUND TRIP ECONOMY SAVER FARES
APPLICATION
AREA
THESE FARES APPLY
BETWEEN AREA 1 AND AREA 3.
CLASS OF SERVICE
THESE FARES APPLY FOR ECONOMY/COACH/OFF PEAK COACH
CLASS SERVICE.
TYPES OF TRANSPORTATION
THIS RULE GOVERNS ROUND-TRIP FARES.
FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE CAN BE USED TO CREATE
ROUND-TRIP/CIRCLE-TRIP/SINGLE OPEN-JAW JOURNEYS.
CAPACITY LIMITATIONS
THE CARRIER SHALL LIMIT THE NUMBER OF PASSENGERS
CARRIED ON ANY ONE FLIGHT AT FARES GOVERNED BY
THIS RULE AND SUCH FARES WILL NOT NECESSARILY BE
AVAILABLE ON ALL FLIGHTS.

[Day/Time]
PERMITTED MON THROUGH THU ON EACH TRANSPACIFIC SECTOR.

[Seasonality]
PERMITTED 25DEC THROUGH 06JUN OR 17AUG THROUGH 30NOV
ON THE OUTBOUND TRANSPACIFIC SECTOR. SEASON IS BASED
ON DATE OF ORIGIN.

[Flight Application]
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST INCLUDE TRAVEL VIA
TRANSPACIFIC SECTORS ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY UA
ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY CO.
AND
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN JAPAN AND
CHINA
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY UA
ANY CA FLIGHT OPERATED BY CA
ANY NH FLIGHT OPERATED BY NH.
AND
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY CO FLIGHT OPERATED BY UA.
AND
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN UNITED
STATES
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST NOT BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY AC FLIGHT.

[Advance Reservations/Ticketing]
CONFIRMED RESERVATIONS FOR ALL SECTORS ARE REQUIRED AT
LEAST 21 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE.
TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 3 DAYS AFTER
RESERVATIONS ARE MADE OR AT LEAST 21 DAYS BEFORE
DEPARTURE WHICHEVER IS EARLIER.

[Minimum Stay]
TRAVEL FROM INBOUND TRANSPACIFIC SECTOR MUST COMMENCE
NO EARLIER THAN 7 DAYS AFTER DEPARTURE OF THE OUTBOUND
TRANSPACIFIC SECTOR.

[Maximum Stay]
TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO LATER THAN
3 MONTHS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.

[Stopovers]
2 STOPOVERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT - 1 IN EACH
DIRECTION AT USD 100.00 EACH
NONE IN GUAM
IN AREA 3
CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY.

[Transfers]
6 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION.
1 PERMITTED IN CANADA IN EACH DIRECTION
2 PERMITTED IN UNITED STATES IN EACH
DIRECTION
3 PERMITTED IN AREA 3 IN EACH DIRECTION.
FARE BREAK SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED AND EMBEDDED
SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT.

[Blackout Dates]
INBOUND -
TRAVEL IS NOT PERMITTED 13JUL12 THROUGH 23AUG12 FOR
TRANSPACIFIC SECTORS.

[Surcharges]
FARE RULE
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN SHA/BJS
AND TYO/OSA
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY CA FLIGHT
ANY NH FLIGHT.
MISCELLANEOUS/OTHER SURCHARGE OF USD 150.00 WILL BE
ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE PER ADULT,ALLOWING
CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNTS.

GENERAL RULE - APPLY UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
IF INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2.
OR - CONTRACT BULK INFANT PSGR UNDER 2.
OR - MILITARY INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT UNDER 2.
OR - NEGOTIATED INFANT PSGR UNDER 2.
OR - INCLUSIVE TOUR INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2.
THERE IS NO MISCELLANEOUS/OTHER SURCHARGE PER
COUPON.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
SURCHARGES DO NOT APPLY TO INFANT PASSENGERS
NOT OCCUPYING A SEAT.
SECURITY SURCHARGE OF HKD 33 OR CAD 6.00 WILL BE ADDED
TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR DEPARTURE FROM/TO/VIA HONG
KONG SAR CHINA.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
THE SECURITY SURCHARGE WILL BE ASSESSED TO
EACH PASSENGER OF ANY AGE GROUP FOR EACH DEPARTURE
OUT OF HONG KONG INCLUDING THROUGH PASSENGERS WITH
STOPOVERS IN HONG KONG.
THE SECURITY SURCHARGE WILL NOT APPLY TO -
1-PASSENGERS TRANSFERRING/TRANSITTING HONG KONG.
2-PASSENGERS TRAVELLING ON ID/AD TICKETS.
3-PASSENGERS HOLDING DIPLOMATIC PASSPORTS.
4-INFANTS.
THE SECURITY SURCHARGE MUST BE COLLECTED AT TIME
OF TICKET ISSUANCE AND WILL BE INCORPORATED IN THE
FARE CALCULATION AS A -Q- SURCHARGE BY CONVERTING
THE SURCHARGE INTO NUC USING THE APPLICABLE IATA
RATE OF EXCHANGE /IROE/.
THE APPLICABLE SECURITY SERVICE CHARGE IS SUBJECT
TO REFUND WHEN HONG KONG IS NO LONGER A DEPARTING
AND/OR STOPOVER POINT AS A RESULT OF CANCELLATION
OR REROUTING OF A TICKET.
AND - MISCELLANEOUS/OTHER SURCHARGE OF USD 5.00 OR CAD
5.00 WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR
ARRIVAL FROM/TO/VIA TKK.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
APPLIES TO DISEMBARKATION SURCHARGE FOR ANY FARE
PAYING PASSENGER DISEMBARKING AT TRUK IN
MICRONESIA.
THIS SURCHARGE IS NOT SUBJECT TO ANY DISCOUNT.
THIS CHARGE WILL NOT APPLY TO INFANTS UNDER 2
YEARS OF AGE.
AND - MISCELLANEOUS/OTHER SURCHARGE OF USD 5.00 OR CAD
5.00 WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR
ARRIVAL FROM/TO/VIA YAP.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
APPLIES TO DISEMBARKATION SURCHARGE FOR ANY FARE
PAYING PASSENGER DISEMBARKING AT YAP IN THE
REPUBLIC OF THE MARSHALL ISLANDS.
THIS SURCHARGE IS NOT SUBJECT TO ANY DISCOUNT.
THIS CHARGE WILL NOT APPLY TO INFANTS UNDER 2
YEARS OF AGE.
AND - MISCELLANEOUS/OTHER SURCHARGE OF USD 18.00 OR CAD
18.00 WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR
DEPARTURE FROM/TO/VIA ROR.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
THE FACILITY SURCHARGE APPLIES EACH TIME TRAVEL
INVOLVES ENPLANEMENT AT KOROR-PALAU ON A UA FLIGHT
THIS FACILITY SURCHARGE WILL NOT APPLY TO
PASSENGERS WHO ARE TRAVELING ON ANY UA FREE TICKET
AND - MISCELLANEOUS/OTHER SURCHARGE OF CAD 15.00 PER
DIRECTION WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
THE SURCHARGE IS A NAVIGATION SURCHARGE.
THE SURCHARGE APPLIES IN ADDITION TO ALL OTHER
CHARGES AND IS NOT SUBJECT TO ANY DISCOUNT.

[Sales Restrictions]
FARE RULE
TICKETS MAY BE ISSUED BY PTA.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
PTA CONSTITUTES TICKETING.

GENERAL RULE - APPLY UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
EXTENSION OF TICKET VALIDITY DUE TO MEDICAL
REASONS PERMITTED UNDER GUIDELINES SET FORTH
BY CARRIER. CONTACT CARRIER FOR DETAILS.

[Penalties]
CANCELLATIONS

ANY TIME
TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE.
WAIVED FOR SCHEDULE CHANGE.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
--
A.  UA CUSTOMER COMMITMENT
--
CUSTOMERS WHO PURCHASE A TICKET FOR TRAVEL
ON UNITED VIA UA CHANNELS MAY CANCEL THEIR
RESERVATIONS/REFUND TICKET WITHOUT PENALTY
WITHIN 24HRS OF PURCHASE.
--
B.  EXCHANGE - CHANGE TO 1ST TICKETED FLIGHT /
WHOLLY UNUSED TICKET
--
FULL VALUE OF A WHOLLY UNUSED TICKET MAY BE
APPLIED TOWARDS PURCHASE OF A NEW TICKET PRICED
AT -CURRENT- EQUAL OR HIGHER FARE LEVELS UPON
PAYMENT OF CHANGE FEE CONTAINED WITHIN THIS
RULE AND ANY DIFFERENCE IN FARE / TAXES /
FEES / SURCHARGES WILL BE APPLICABLE AT TIME
OF EXCHANGE.
--PROVIDED--
--ORIGINAL RESERVATIONS ARE CANCELED PRIOR TO
ORIGINALLY SCHEDULE FLIGHT ---  AND ---
RESERVATIONS FOR NEW ITINERARY ARE MADE AND
TICKETS REISSUED NO LATER THAN 1 YEAR FROM
DATE OF ISSUE ON ORIGINAL PURCHASED TICKET.
--
THE NON-REFUNDABLE CANCELLATION AMOUNT OF THE
TICKET BEING EXCHANGED REMAINS NON-REFUNDABLE
AND CARRIED FORWARD IN THE ENDORSEMENT BOX OF
THE NEW TICKET.
--
C. LOWER FARE INTRODUCED OR AVAILABLE IN MARKET
--
WHEN A LOWER FARE IS INTRODUCED INTO THE MARKET
OR A CURRENT FARE IS REDUCED / OR BECOMES
AVAILABLE / THE TICKETED PASSENGER MAY
QUALIFY FOR THE ABOVE.  ALL PROVISIONS OF THE
LOWER AIR FARE MUST BE MET BEFORE DEPARTURE.
NO CHANGE TO ORIGIN/DESTINATION/DATES/FLIGHTS.
ONLY BOOKING CODE CHANGE IS PERMITTED.
--
A SERVICE FEE EQUAL TO THE CHANGE FEE
WILL BE ASSESSED.  -- RESIDUAL VALUE /IF ANY /
WILL BE RETURNED TO THE ORIGINAL FORM OF
PAYMENT.
--
D.  EMERGENCY PROVISION
--
TICKET MAY BE USED TOWARD PURCHASE OF
ANOTHER TICKET DUE TO AN EMERGENCY OF
PASSENGER / IMMEDIATE FAMILY MEMBER OR
TRAVELING COMPANION.
DOCUMENTATION REQUIRED.

CHANGES

ANY TIME
CHARGE CAD 250.00 FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATION.
CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY.
WAIVED FOR SCHEDULE CHANGE.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
--
A.  CHANGE MADE TO OTHER THAN THE FIRST TICKETED
FLIGHT
--
TICKETS MUST BE REISSUED WHEN ANY VOLUNTARY
CHANGE IS MADE.  WHEN TICKETED RESERVAIONS
ARE CANCELLED PRIOR TO FLIGHT TIME - NEW
FLIGHTS MUST BE CONFIRMED AND TICKET REISSUED.
NO OPEN RETURNS PERMITTED.
--
IF CHANGES ARE MADE TO OTHER THAN THE FIRST
TICKETED FLIGHT THE FARE LEVELS IN EFFECT AT
TIME OF ORIGINAL TICKET ISSUE WILL APPLY
PROVIDED THE NEW ITINERARY QUALIFIES FOR
ALL THE PROVISIONS OF THE ORIGINALLY
TICKETED FARE FAMILY /
IGNORING ADVANCE RESERVATION OR TICKETING
REQUIREMENTS.
--IF THE NEW ITINERARY QUALIFIES FOR THE
ORIGINALLY TICKETED FARE FAMILY / BUT RESULTS
IN A HIGHER FARE /
THE DIFFERENCE IN FARE AND THE CHANGE FEE
CONTAINED IN THIS RULE MUST BE COLLECTED
AT TIME OF CHANGE/REISSUE.
--IF THE NEW ITINERARY QUALIFIES FOR THE
ORIGINALLY TICKETED FARE FAMILY / BUT RESULTS
IN A LOWER FARE /-- NO REFUND WILL BE MADE--.
-------FULL CHANGE FEE WILL APPLY-----
--
IF CHANGES BY THE PASSENGER NO LONGER QUALIFY
FOR THE ORIGINALLY TICKETED FARE / FULL VALUE
OF THE ORIGINAL TICKET MAY BE APPLIED TOWARDS
EQUAL OR HIGHER QUALIFYING FARE -
USING FARES IN EFFECT ON THE ORIGINAL
TICKETING DATE.
--
FARE IS RECALCULATED FROM POINT OF ORIGIN.
ANY DIFFERENCE IN FARE/TAXES/FEES/SURCHARGE
WILL BE APPLICABLE AT TIME OF CHANGE/REISSUE.
--
B.  EMERGENCY PROVISION
--
TICKET MAY BE USED TOWARD THE PURCHASE OF
ANOTHER TICKET DUE TO AN EMERGENCY OF
PASSENGER / IMMEDIATE FAMILY MEMBER OR
TRAVELING COMPANION.
DOCUMENTATION REQUIRED.

[Combinations]
END-ON-END PERMITTED. VALIDATE ALL FARE COMPONENTS.
SIDE TRIPS PERMITTED WITH NO RESTRICTIONS. TRAVEL
MUST BE VIA POINT OF COMBINATION.
OPEN JAWS
FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
-TO FORM SINGLE OR DOUBLE OPEN JAWS
MILEAGE OF THE OPEN SEGMENT MUST BE EQUAL/LESS THAN
MILEAGE OF THE LONGEST FLOWN FARE COMPONENT.
PROVIDED -
WHEN THE OPEN SEGMENT OCCURS
-WITHIN AREA 1 OR WITHIN AREA 3 COMBINATIONS ARE
WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER UA/CO IN ANY RULE
FOR TRAVEL VIA THE PACIFIC.
ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS
FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
-TO FORM ROUND TRIPS
-TO FORM CIRCLE TRIPS
A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS
PERMITTED.
PROVIDED -
COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER UA/CO
IN ANY RULE
FOR TRAVEL VIA THE PACIFIC.
NOTE - THE CITY PAIRS BELOW ARE CONSIDERED THE SAME
POINT -
NYC-EWR

[HIP/Mileage Exceptions]
NOTE -
ROUTING FARES ARE NOT ELIGIBLE FOR HIP CHECKS

[Ticket Endorsement]
THE ORIGINAL AND THE REISSUED TICKET MUST BE ANNOTATED
- NONREF/0VALUEAFTDPT/CHGFEE - IN THE ENDORSEMENT BOX.

[Children Discounts]
FOR TRAVEL ON/AFTER 27JAN12 AND ON/BEFORE 03MAY12
CNN/ACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 2-11 - CHARGE 75 PERCENT
OF THE FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH AND DISCOUNT PERCENT.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 18 OR OLDER.
OR - 1ST INF/INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 -
CHARGE 10 PERCENT OF THE FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - IN AND DISCOUNT
PERCENT.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 18 OR OLDER.
OR - INS/INFANT WITH A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 - CHARGE 75
PERCENT OF THE FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH AND DISCOUNT
PERCENT.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 18 OR OLDER.
OR - UNN/UNACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 5-11 - CHARGE 100
PERCENT OF THE FARE.
FOR TRAVEL ON/AFTER 04MAY12 AND ON/BEFORE 08JUL12
CNN/ACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 2-11 - CHARGE 100 PERCENT
OF THE FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH AND DISCOUNT PERCENT.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 18 OR OLDER.
OR - 1ST INF/INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 -
CHARGE 10 PERCENT OF THE FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - IN AND DISCOUNT
PERCENT.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 18 OR OLDER.
OR - INS/INFANT WITH A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 - CHARGE 100
PERCENT OF THE FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH AND DISCOUNT
PERCENT.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 18 OR OLDER.
OR - UNN/UNACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 5-11 - CHARGE 100
PERCENT OF THE FARE.
FOR TRAVEL ON/AFTER 09JUL12 AND ON/BEFORE 07DEC12
CNN/ACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 2-11 - CHARGE 75 PERCENT
OF THE FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH AND DISCOUNT PERCENT.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 18 OR OLDER.
OR - 1ST INF/INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 -
CHARGE 10 PERCENT OF THE FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - IN AND DISCOUNT
PERCENT.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 18 OR OLDER.
OR - INS/INFANT WITH A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 - CHARGE 75
PERCENT OF THE FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH AND DISCOUNT
PERCENT.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 18 OR OLDER.
OR - UNN/UNACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 5-11 - CHARGE 100
PERCENT OF THE FARE.
FOR TRAVEL ON/AFTER 08DEC12 AND ON/BEFORE 23DEC12
CNN/ACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 2-11 - CHARGE 100 PERCENT
OF THE FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH AND DISCOUNT PERCENT.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 18 OR OLDER.
OR - 1ST INF/INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 -
CHARGE 10 PERCENT OF THE FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - IN AND DISCOUNT
PERCENT.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 18 OR OLDER.
OR - INS/INFANT WITH A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 - CHARGE 100
PERCENT OF THE FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH AND DISCOUNT
PERCENT.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 18 OR OLDER.
OR - UNN/UNACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 5-11 - CHARGE 100
PERCENT OF THE FARE.
FOR TRAVEL ON/AFTER 24DEC12 AND ON/BEFORE 03MAY13
CNN/ACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 2-11 - CHARGE 75 PERCENT
OF THE FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH AND DISCOUNT PERCENT.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 18 OR OLDER.
OR - 1ST INF/INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 -
CHARGE 10 PERCENT OF THE FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - IN AND DISCOUNT
PERCENT.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 18 OR OLDER.
OR - INS/INFANT WITH A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 - CHARGE 75
PERCENT OF THE FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH AND DISCOUNT
PERCENT.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 18 OR OLDER.
OR - UNN/UNACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 5-11 - CHARGE 100
PERCENT OF THE FARE.

[Eligibility]
NO ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS APPLY.

[Accompanied Travel]
ACCOMPANIED TRAVEL NOT REQUIRED.

[Travel Restrictions]
NO TRAVEL DATE RESTRICTIONS APPLY.

[Tour Conductor Discounts]
NO DISCOUNTS FOR TOUR CONDUCTORS.

[Agent Discounts]
NO DISCOUNTS FOR SALE AGENTS.

[All Other Discounts]
NO DISCOUNTS FOR OTHERS.

[Miscellaneous Provisions]
NO PROVISIONS APPLY.

[Groups]
NO GROUP PROVISIONS APPLY.

[Tours]
NO TOUR PROVISIONS APPLY.

[Visit Another Country]
NO VISIT ANOTHER COUNTRY PROVISIONS APPLY.

[Deposits]
NO DEPOSIT PROVISIONS APPLY.

[Voluntary Refunds]
CHECK CATEGORY 16 OR CONTACT CARRIER FOR DETAILS.


KVS Mar 12, 2012 4:22 pm


Originally Posted by poverty.jet.set (Post 18187013)
I'm new to KVS.

Welcome to the KVS Tool!


Originally Posted by poverty.jet.set (Post 18187013)
I searched for fares for YYZ-PVG using method "Sabre: Fares/DotRes" and POS of "US", UA inc. codeshare
Then I check availability of L fare on dates (UA with no codeshare), looking each direction individually (finding Sep 12 and Oct 1 return)
Then I go to UA site and use those dates, pick the same flight numbers (via SFO out, ORD back), and the fare is L outbound and S return for a total of $1,491.80
Am I doing something wrong?
(side note: this was a few hours ago that I ran both KVS and UA searches; I'm just finding time to post now)

You have done everything correctly.

This looks like a system connectivity issue -- if you use the [Awards-Upgrade/UA] Method to check Availability, you will see that it is showing L0 for your return flights:

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.6/Diamond - ITA: Awards-Upgrades/UA]
Code:

PVG  Shanghai PuDong CN [ZSPD]
YYZ  Toronto Pearson Intl ON CA [CYYZ]
MON  01 Oct 2012

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
UA        836    PVG  15:55    ORD  16:23    772      F6 FN7 A6 ON4 O2 J9 JN8 C9 D9 Z9 ZN7 P7 PN7 R1 RN1 IN0 I0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L0 K0 G0 N0 XN0 X0
 -> UA    843    ORD  18:15    YYZ  20:59    319      F6 A6 JN8 ZN7 P7 PN7 R1 RN1 IN0 I0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L0 K0 G0 N0 XN0 X0

UA        858    PVG  12:10    SFO  07:59    744      F6 FN8 A6 ON6 O5 J9 JN8 C9 D9 Z9 ZN6 P6 PN6 R0 RN0 IN0 I0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T5 L0 K0 G0 N0 XN0 X0
 -> UA    526    SFO  13:04    YYZ  20:59    319      F6 A6 JN8 ZN6 P6 PN6 R0 RN0 IN0 I0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T5 L0 K0 G0 N0 XN0 X0
UA        858    PVG  12:10    SFO  07:59    744      F8 FN8 A8 ON6 O5 J9 JN9 C9 D9 Z9 ZN9 P9 PN9 R0 RN0 IN0 I0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K0 G0 N0 XN0 X0
 -> UA    972    SFO  10:06    ORD  16:20    763      F6 FN6 A1 ON0 O0 J9 JN8 C9 D9 Z9 ZN7 P7 PN7 R4 RN4 IN0 I0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S8 T0 L0 K0 G0 N0 XN0 X0
 -> UA    843    ORD  18:15    YYZ  20:59    319      F6 A1 JN8 ZN7 P7 PN7 R4 RN4 IN0 I0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S8 T0 L0 K0 G0 N0 XN0 X0
UA        858    PVG  12:10    SFO  07:59    744      F8 FN8 A8 ON6 O5 J9 JN9 C9 D9 Z9 ZN9 P9 PN9 R0 RN0 IN0 I0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K0 G0 N0 XN0 X0
 -> UA    222    SFO  10:30    ORD  16:46    320      F8 A5 JN8 ZN5 P5 PN5 R0 RN0 IN0 I0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T1 L0 K0 G0 N0 XN0 X0
 -> UA    843    ORD  18:15    YYZ  20:59    319      F8 A5 JN8 ZN5 P5 PN5 R0 RN0 IN0 I0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T1 L0 K0 G0 N0 XN0 X0
UA        858    PVG  12:10    SFO  07:59    744      F8 FN8 A8 ON6 O5 J9 JN9 C9 D9 Z9 ZN9 P9 PN9 R0 RN0 IN0 I0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S0 T0 L0 K0 G0 N0 XN0 X0
 -> UA    906    SFO  11:06    ORD  17:16    752      F8 A8 JN9 ZN9 P9 PN9 R0 RN0 IN0 I0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S0 T0 L0 K0 G0 N0 XN0 X0
 -> UA    843    ORD  18:15    YYZ  20:59    319      F8 A7 JN8 ZN7 P7 PN7 R4 RN4 IN0 I0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K0 G0 N0 XN1 X0


poverty.jet.set Mar 12, 2012 6:01 pm


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 18187091)
Welcome to the KVS Tool!

You have done everything correctly.

This looks like a system connectivity issue -- if you use the [Awards-Upgrade/UA] Method to check Availability, you will see that it is showing L0 for your return flights:

Can you please clarify:
- what do you mean by system connectivity issue? I tried the awards/upgrade search, and the return availability search again, and get different results?
- are you suggesting I should be using the Awards-Upgrade search instead of the Availability search, even though I'm looking for regular cash fares? Always, or under what circumstances?

thanks

KVS Mar 12, 2012 6:44 pm


Originally Posted by poverty.jet.set (Post 18187675)
Can you please clarify:
- what do you mean by system connectivity issue? I tried the awards/upgrade search, and the return availability search again, and get different results?

Occasionally, Availability can temporarily get out-of-sync in different systems, due to airline technology limitations and/or technical issues.


Originally Posted by poverty.jet.set (Post 18187675)
- are you suggesting I should be using the Awards-Upgrade search instead of the Availability search, even though I'm looking for regular cash fares? Always, or under what circumstances?

As mentioned in the KVS Tool User Guide, the [Awards-Upgrades/UA] Method is also recommended for Regular Availability on UA flights: http://Help.KVSTool.com/#WhichMethod

poverty.jet.set Mar 12, 2012 9:11 pm

Hmm.
So now I see L available for return on UA (2nd leg on Shuttle America dba United Express) but the fare on UA is $1354.80 - is that because of that Shuttle America hop?
I suppose the real question is how do I know if that farecode is even available on any days on United? (since L bucket availability could be one of serveral L-fare codes)
Even on an ITA Matrix search I'm not seeing under $1250
Sigh, I thought this would simplify things :confused:

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.6/Diamond - ITA: Awards-Upgrades/UA]
Code:

PVG  Shanghai PuDong CN [ZSPD]
YYZ  Toronto Pearson Intl ON CA [CYYZ]
MON  01 Oct 2012

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
UA        836    PVG  15:55    ORD  16:23    772      F5 FN7 A0 ON4 O2 J9 JN5 C9 D9 Z9 ZN0 P0 PN0 R0 RN0 IN0 I0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L5 K0 G0 N0 XN0 X0
 -> UA/S5  3483    ORD  21:00    YYZ  23:26    E70      F5 A0 JN5 ZN0 P0 PN0 R0 RN0 IN0 I0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L5 K0 G0 N0 XN0 X0


KVS Mar 12, 2012 9:43 pm


Originally Posted by poverty.jet.set (Post 18188679)
So now I see L available for return on UA (2nd leg on Shuttle America dba United Express) but the fare on UA is $1354.80

That is correct: LLX27DM2 Base Fare ($835) + Fuel Surcharges ($370) + Other Surcharges ($30) + Taxes ($120) comes to a total of ~$1 355.

cbourl Mar 13, 2012 2:10 am

hi yes im running the latest kvs tool :(

poverty.jet.set Mar 13, 2012 5:27 am


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 18188848)
That is correct: LLX27DM2 Base Fare ($835) + Fuel Surcharges ($370) + Other Surcharges ($30) + Taxes ($120) comes to a total of ~$1 355.

colour me stupid, but where are you getting that info, especially about the fuel surcharge?
I don't see anything about a fuel surcharge in the fare rules for the code (neither in KVS nor on UA when I make a dummy booking, including if I click on "View Rules and Restrictions" after selecting the flights).

OK wait, now I see it under "additional taxes/fees at the top of the UA trip while booking - though it says $1,237 + 117.80 in fees (yet fees list $372 in fuel surcharge, with a footnote of "some fees listed in originally quoted price").

Isn't the fuel surcharge normally mentioned in the fare rules? grr....

lxjenkins Mar 13, 2012 9:34 am

KVSTool and 4M
 
I know this has been touched on in the past - however, KVSTool is clearly showing 4M CS+ availability on the day I want to travel. Yet, when I contact BA to use Avios miles to purchase this award on 4M the agents (all 3 that I've spoken to) adamantly claim that there is no such availability. Is it possible that the KVSTool is wrong?

golfmad Mar 13, 2012 9:40 am


Originally Posted by lxjenkins (Post 18191550)
I know this has been touched on in the past - however, KVSTool is clearly showing 4M CS+ availability on the day I want to travel. Yet, when I contact BA to use Avios miles to purchase this award on 4M the agents (all 3 that I've spoken to) adamantly claim that there is no such availability. Is it possible that the KVSTool is wrong?

What flight and date are you looking for?

KVS Mar 13, 2012 11:38 am


Originally Posted by cbourl (Post 18189618)
hi yes im running the latest kvs tool :(

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