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ffI Aug 14, 2010 10:15 pm

I can get Sabre:FS to show but not Z class on VA

FlyerGoldII Aug 15, 2010 7:54 am

I just looked up the routing rules (YOW-MXP) by the Sabre Dot/Res method (and also the Galileo method); in both cases I could only get one permitted routing combination displayed.

What am I doing wrong?

[KVS Availability Tool 5.7.4/Diamond - Routing Rules: YOW-MXP/AC/ZXRC30/3346 CAD]
Code:

YOWMIL-AC 15AUG10      *RULE DISPLAY*    TARIFF 0101 RULE E350
* ADD APPLICABLE TAX * FED INSP FEES *                         
  -FARE BASIS        CAD      NUC                PTC  FT  GI
ZXRC30          R  3346.00  3190.82              ADT  EX  AT
ZXRC30          R  3346.00  3190.82              CNN  EX  AT
ZXRC30/IN90    R    334.00    319.08              INF  EX  AT
ZXRC30          R  3346.00  3190.82              INS  EX  AT
ZXRC30          R  3346.00  3190.82              UNN  EX  AT
BOOKING CODES        Z                                         
INDUSTRY FARE TYPE -  BX - BUSINESS CLASS EXCURSION           
MPM - AT  4704 VIA NORTH ATLANTIC
---------------------------------------------------------------

ROUTING 1401 FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-YHZ-YYT-AC-MIL*


sbm12 Aug 15, 2010 9:15 am


Originally Posted by djjaguar64 (Post 14424166)
Can anyone point me to another free tool, this one seems to have disappeared:

http://flyaow.com/classavailability.htm

http://tools.wanderingaramean.com/To...Inventory.aspx

I maintain it. Let me know if you run into trouble with it. The current inventory source is new (I used to use the same one that went offline) so I'm still finding bugs, but it is mostly working most of the time. :o

Argonaut1000 Aug 15, 2010 10:46 am


Originally Posted by sbm12 (Post 14484591)
http://tools.wanderingaramean.com/To...Inventory.aspx

I maintain it. Let me know if you run into trouble with it. The current inventory source is new (I used to use the same one that went offline) so I'm still finding bugs, but it is mostly working most of the time. :o

Nice to see another option for fares - is there a way to add any filters for J fares?

KVS Aug 15, 2010 10:52 am


Originally Posted by FlyerGoldII (Post 14484232)
I just looked up the routing rules (YOW-MXP) by the Sabre Dot/Res method (and also the Galileo method); in both cases I could only get one permitted routing combination displayed.

What am I doing wrong?

Looks like a fare routing mis-file. It should correct itself within a few days.

Argonaut1000 Aug 15, 2010 11:19 am

Is there information available using the KVS tool or elsewhere where it will show what Booking classes are mapped to on another airline?

I read on another link that they are not always linked by booking class, but also routing dependent?

IE - NH-C = AC-J

FlyerGoldII Aug 15, 2010 5:03 pm

A question re: routing:

If it says that one needs to go on AC/LH or AC/LX or AC/LH/LX from a European hub to MXP - does that mean that only AC codeshared flights from the hub city to MXP are eligible for the fare, or does it mean that AC or LH or LX flights between the city pair are eligible, whether or not AC codeshares on those flights?




Originally Posted by KVS (Post 14394899)
These are Routing-based fares, so MPM does not apply:

[KVS Availability Tool 5.6.0/Diamond - Routing Rules: YOW-MIL/AC/ZXRC30/3228 USD]
Code:

YOWMIL-AC 30JUL10      *RULE DISPLAY*    TARIFF 0101 RULE E350
* ADD APPLICABLE TAX * FED INSP FEES *                         
  -FARE BASIS        CAD      NUC                PTC  FT  GI
ZXRC30          R  3306.00  3152.68              ADT  EX  AT
ZXRC30          R  3306.00  3152.68              CNN  EX  AT
ZXRC30/IN90    R    330.00    315.26              INF  EX  AT
ZXRC30          R  3306.00  3152.68              INS  EX  AT
ZXRC30          R  3306.00  3152.68              UNN  EX  AT
BOOKING CODES        Z                                         
INDUSTRY FARE TYPE -  BX - BUSINESS CLASS EXCURSION           
MPM - AT  4704 VIA NORTH ATLANTIC
---------------------------------------------------------------

ROUTING 1401 FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-YHZ-YYT-AC-MIL*             
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-YHZ-YYT-AC-AC/LH-MIL*       
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-YHZ-YYT-AC-AC/LH-AC/LH/LX-   
                      MIL*                                     
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-YHZ-YYT-AC-AC/LH-STR-AC/     
                      LH/LX-MIL*                               
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-YHZ-YYT-AC-MUC/PAR/ROM/     
                      ZRH/WAW/VIE-AC/LH-MIL*                   
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-YHZ-YYT-AC-MUC/PAR/ROM/     
                      ZRH/WAW/VIE-AC/LH-AC/LH/LX-MIL*         
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-YHZ-YYT-AC-MUC/PAR/ROM/     
                      ZRH/WAW/VIE-AC/LH-STR-AC/LH/LX-MIL*     
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-YHZ-YYT-AC-BCN/BRU/DUS/     
                      FRA/HAM/LIS/LON/MAD/MUC/PAR/ROM/VIE/     
                      CPH-AC/LH-MIL*                           
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-YHZ-YYT-AC-GVA/ZRH-AC/LX-   
                      MIL*                                     
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-YHZ-YYT-AC-BRU-AC/SN-MIL*   
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-YHZ-YYT-AC-MAD/BCN-JK/IB/   
                      AZ/LX-MIL*                               
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-YHZ-YYT-AC-AMS-KL/AZ-MIL*   
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-YHZ-YYT-AC-ATH-A3-MIL*       
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-YHZ-YYT-AC-WAW-LO/AC-MIL*   
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-YHZ-YYT-AC-BA/BD/SK/AZ-     
                      MIL*                                     
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-YHZ-YYT-AC-AZ-MIL*           
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-YHZ-YYT-AC-ROM-AZ-MIL*       
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-YHZ-YYT-AC-AMS/BRU/LON-AZ/   
                      AF-MIL*                                 
            FROM-TO  YOW-YTO-YMQ-YHZ-YYT-AC-MIL*             
            FROM-TO  YOW-YTO-YMQ-YHZ-YYT-AC-AC/LH-MIL*       
            FROM-TO  YOW-YTO-YMQ-YHZ-YYT-AC-AC/LH-AC/LH/LX-   
                      MIL*                                     
            FROM-TO  YOW-YTO-YMQ-YHZ-YYT-AC-AC/LH-STR-AC/     
                      LH/LX-MIL*                               
            FROM-TO  YOW-YTO-YMQ-YHZ-YYT-AC-MUC/PAR/ROM/     
                      ZRH/WAW/VIE-AC/LH-MIL*                   
            FROM-TO  YOW-YTO-YMQ-YHZ-YYT-AC-MUC/PAR/ROM/     
                      ZRH/WAW/VIE-AC/LH-AC/LH/LX-MIL*         
            FROM-TO  YOW-YTO-YMQ-YHZ-YYT-AC-MUC/PAR/ROM/     
                      ZRH/WAW/VIE-AC/LH-STR-AC/LH/LX-MIL*     
            FROM-TO  YOW-YTO-YMQ-YHZ-YYT-AC-BCN/BRU/DUS/     
                      FRA/HAM/LIS/LON/MAD/MUC/PAR/ROM/VIE/     
                      CPH-AC/LH-MIL*                           
            FROM-TO  YOW-YTO-YMQ-YHZ-YYT-AC-GVA/ZRH-AC/LX-   
                      MIL*                                     
            FROM-TO  YOW-YTO-YMQ-YHZ-YYT-AC-BRU-AC/SN-MIL*   
            FROM-TO  YOW-YTO-YMQ-YHZ-YYT-AC-MAD/BCN-JK/IB/   
                      AZ/LX-MIL*                               
            FROM-TO  YOW-YTO-YMQ-YHZ-YYT-AC-AMS-KL/AZ-MIL*   
            FROM-TO  YOW-YTO-YMQ-YHZ-YYT-AC-ATH-A3-MIL*       
            FROM-TO  YOW-YTO-YMQ-YHZ-YYT-AC-WAW-LO/AC-MIL*   
            FROM-TO  YOW-YTO-YMQ-YHZ-YYT-AC-BA/BD/SK/AZ-     
                      MIL*                                     
            FROM-TO  YOW-YTO-YMQ-YHZ-YYT-AC-AZ-MIL*           
            FROM-TO  YOW-YTO-YMQ-YHZ-YYT-AC-ROM-AZ-MIL*       
            FROM-TO  YOW-YTO-YMQ-YHZ-YYT-AC-AMS/BRU/LON-AZ/   
                      AF-MIL*                                 
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/     
                      DTT/EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-MIL*             
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/     
                      DTT/EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-AC/LH-MIL*       
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/     
                      DTT/EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-AC/LH-AC/LH/LX-   
                      MIL*                                     
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/     
                      DTT/EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-AC/LH-STR-AC/     
                      LH/LX-MIL*                               
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/     
                      DTT/EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-MUC/PAR/ROM/     
                      ZRH/WAW/VIE-AC/LH-MIL*                   
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/     
                      DTT/EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-MUC/PAR/ROM/     
                      ZRH/WAW/VIE-AC/LH-AC/LH/LX-MIL*         
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/     
                      DTT/EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-MUC/PAR/ROM/     
                      ZRH/WAW/VIE-AC/LH-STR-AC/LH/LX-MIL*     
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/     
                      DTT/EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-BCN/BRU/DUS/     
                      FRA/HAM/LIS/LON/MAD/MUC/PAR/ROM/VIE/     
                      CPH-AC/LH-MIL*                           
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/     
                      DTT/EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-GVA/ZRH-AC/LX-   
                      MIL*                                     
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/     
                      DTT/EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-BRU-AC/SN-MIL*   
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/     
                      DTT/EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-MAD/BCN-JK/IB/   
                      AZ/LX-MIL*                               
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/     
                      DTT/EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-AMS-KL/AZ-MIL*   
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/     
                      DTT/EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-ATH-A3-MIL*       
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/     
                      DTT/EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-WAW-LO/AC-MIL*   
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/     
                      DTT/EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-BA/BD/SK/AZ-     
                      MIL*                                     
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/     
                      DTT/EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-AZ-MIL*           
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/     
                      DTT/EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-ROM-AZ-MIL*       
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/     
                      DTT/EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-AMS/BRU/LON-AZ/   
                      AF-MIL*                                 
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/EWR/     
                      NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-MIL*                     
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/EWR/     
                      NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-AC/LH-MIL*               
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/EWR/     
                      NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-AC/LH-AC/LH/LX-MIL*       
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/EWR/     
                      NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-AC/LH-STR-AC/LH/LX-MIL*   
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/EWR/     
                      NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-MUC/PAR/ROM/ZRH/WAW/     
                      VIE-AC/LH-MIL*                           
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/EWR/     
                      NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-MUC/PAR/ROM/ZRH/WAW/     
                      VIE-AC/LH-AC/LH/LX-MIL*                 
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/EWR/     
                      NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-MUC/PAR/ROM/ZRH/WAW/     
                      VIE-AC/LH-STR-AC/LH/LX-MIL*             
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/EWR/     
                      NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-BCN/BRU/DUS/FRA/HAM/     
                      LIS/LON/MAD/MUC/PAR/ROM/VIE/CPH-AC/LH-   
                      MIL*                                     
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/EWR/     
                      NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-GVA/ZRH-AC/LX-MIL*       
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/EWR/     
                      NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-BRU-AC/SN-MIL*           
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/EWR/     
                      NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-MAD/BCN-JK/IB/AZ/LX-     
                      MIL*                                     
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/EWR/     
                      NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-AMS-KL/AZ-MIL*           
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/EWR/     
                      NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-ATH-A3-MIL*               
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/EWR/     
                      NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-WAW-LO/AC-MIL*           
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/EWR/     
                      NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-BA/BD/SK/AZ-MIL*         
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/EWR/     
                      NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-AZ-MIL*                   
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/EWR/     
                      NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-ROM-AZ-MIL*               
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/EWR/     
                      NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-AMS/BRU/LON-AZ/AF-MIL*   
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/     
                      EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-MIL*                 
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/     
                      EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-AC/LH-MIL*           
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/     
                      EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-AC/LH-AC/LH/LX-MIL*   
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/     
                      EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-AC/LH-STR-AC/LH/LX-   
                      MIL*                                     
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/     
                      EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-MUC/PAR/ROM/ZRH/     
                      WAW/VIE-AC/LH-MIL*                       
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/     
                      EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-MUC/PAR/ROM/ZRH/     
                      WAW/VIE-AC/LH-AC/LH/LX-MIL*             
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/     
                      EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-MUC/PAR/ROM/ZRH/     
                      WAW/VIE-AC/LH-STR-AC/LH/LX-MIL*         
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/     
                      EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-BCN/BRU/DUS/FRA/     
                      HAM/LIS/LON/MAD/MUC/PAR/ROM/VIE/CPH-     
                      AC/LH-MIL*                               
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/     
                      EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-GVA/ZRH-AC/LX-MIL*   
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/     
                      EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-BRU-AC/SN-MIL*       
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/     
                      EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-MAD/BCN-JK/IB/AZ/     
                      LX-MIL*                                 
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/     
                      EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-AMS-KL/AZ-MIL*       
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/     
                      EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-ATH-A3-MIL*           
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/     
                      EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-WAW-LO/AC-MIL*       
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/     
                      EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-BA/BD/SK/AZ-MIL*     
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/     
                      EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-AZ-MIL*               
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/     
                      EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-ROM-AZ-MIL*           
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/     
                      EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-AMS/BRU/LON-AZ/AF-   
                      MIL*                                     
            FROM-TO  YOW-YHZ-YYT-AC-MIL*                     
            FROM-TO  YOW-YHZ-YYT-AC-AC/LH-MIL*               
            FROM-TO  YOW-YHZ-YYT-AC-AC/LH-AC/LH/LX-MIL*       
            FROM-TO  YOW-YHZ-YYT-AC-AC/LH-STR-AC/LH/LX-MIL*   
            FROM-TO  YOW-YHZ-YYT-AC-MUC/PAR/ROM/ZRH/WAW/     
                      VIE-AC/LH-MIL*                           
            FROM-TO  YOW-YHZ-YYT-AC-MUC/PAR/ROM/ZRH/WAW/     
                      VIE-AC/LH-AC/LH/LX-MIL*                 
            FROM-TO  YOW-YHZ-YYT-AC-MUC/PAR/ROM/ZRH/WAW/     
                      VIE-AC/LH-STR-AC/LH/LX-MIL*             
            FROM-TO  YOW-YHZ-YYT-AC-BCN/BRU/DUS/FRA/HAM/     
                      LIS/LON/MAD/MUC/PAR/ROM/VIE/CPH-AC/LH-   
                      MIL*                                     
            FROM-TO  YOW-YHZ-YYT-AC-GVA/ZRH-AC/LX-MIL*       
            FROM-TO  YOW-YHZ-YYT-AC-BRU-AC/SN-MIL*           
            FROM-TO  YOW-YHZ-YYT-AC-MAD/BCN-JK/IB/AZ/LX-     
                      MIL*                                     
            FROM-TO  YOW-YHZ-YYT-AC-AMS-KL/AZ-MIL*           
            FROM-TO  YOW-YHZ-YYT-AC-ATH-A3-MIL*               
            FROM-TO  YOW-YHZ-YYT-AC-WAW-LO/AC-MIL*           
            FROM-TO  YOW-YHZ-YYT-AC-BA/BD/SK/AZ-MIL*         
            FROM-TO  YOW-YHZ-YYT-AC-AZ-MIL*                   
            FROM-TO  YOW-YHZ-YYT-AC-ROM-AZ-MIL*               
            FROM-TO  YOW-YHZ-YYT-AC-AMS/BRU/LON-AZ/AF-MIL*



djjaguar64 Aug 15, 2010 6:55 pm


Originally Posted by sbm12 (Post 14484591)
http://tools.wanderingaramean.com/To...Inventory.aspx

I maintain it. Let me know if you run into trouble with it. The current inventory source is new (I used to use the same one that went offline) so I'm still finding bugs, but it is mostly working most of the time. :o

Merci Monsieur!!

KVS Aug 16, 2010 1:40 pm


Originally Posted by FlyerGoldII (Post 14486739)
A question re: routing:

If it says that one needs to go on AC/LH or AC/LX or AC/LH/LX from a European hub to MXP - does that mean that only AC codeshared flights from the hub city to MXP are eligible for the fare, or does it mean that AC or LH or LX flights between the city pair are eligible, whether or not AC codeshares on those flights?

No codeshares are necessary; any flight marketed by AC/LH/LX will qualify.

KVS Aug 16, 2010 1:45 pm


Originally Posted by ffI (Post 14483019)
I can get Sabre:FS to show but not Z class on VA

(Answered in the http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...l#post14485043 thread.)

KVS Aug 16, 2010 1:49 pm


Originally Posted by Argonaut1000 (Post 14485214)
Is there information available using the KVS tool or elsewhere where it will show what Booking classes are mapped to on another airline?

I read on another link that they are not always linked by booking class, but also routing dependent?

IE - NH-C = AC-J

No authoritative source for this kind of data currently exists. This information is being held internally by each particular airline as a part of their commercial codeshare agreements.

And yes, it can be route specific, which further complicates matters.

sbm12 Aug 16, 2010 3:53 pm


Originally Posted by Argonaut1000 (Post 14485214)
Is there information available using the KVS tool or elsewhere where it will show what Booking classes are mapped to on another airline?

I read on another link that they are not always linked by booking class, but also routing dependent?

IE - NH-C = AC-J

There is not a coherent source anywhere that I can find. I've done my best to scrape together via folks' empirical reports and some flights I've taken but the total number of mappings I have for *A is just about 100. The fact that it can vary based on routing makes it very difficult to be sure of what your earnings are going to be, but it is a start. http://tools.wanderingaramean.com/To...e_Mapping.aspx

ChrisA330 Aug 16, 2010 5:26 pm

I'm sure I'm making this harder than it is...but I can't figure out if the MCT for AC-TG connection at PVG is 120 or 180 minutes.

[KVS Availability Tool 5.7.4/Diamond - Reference: Minimum Connection Time [MCT]: PVG/AC-TG]
Code:

                                              DD  DI  ID  II 
STANDARD:        PVG                          020 060 060 060 
TERMINAL:        PVG  1  TO  1                120 120 120 120 
                      1  TO  2                150 150 150 150 
                      2  TO  1                150 150 150 150 
                      2  TO  2                120 120 120 120 
EXCEPTIONS:                                                   
A/L              TR        AREA                               
AC              1        CA                  --- --- --- 180 
TG              1                                             
AC              1        CA                  --- --- --- 180 
TG              2                                             
AC              2        CA                  --- --- --- 180 
TG              1                                             
AC              1        US                  --- --- --- 180 
TG              1                                             
AC              1        US                  --- --- --- 180 
TG              2                                             
AC              2        US                  --- --- --- 180 
TG              1                                             
AC              1                            --- --- --- 120 
-ALL-            1                                             
AC              1                            --- --- --- 12

-ALL-            2                                             
AC              2                            --- --- --- 120 
-ALL-            1                                             
AC              2                            --- --- --- 120 
-ALL-            2                                             
**END OF DISPLAY**


KVS Aug 16, 2010 5:57 pm


Originally Posted by ChrisA330 (Post 14492661)
I'm sure I'm making this harder than it is...but I can't figure out if the MCT for AC-TG connection at PVG is 120 or 180 minutes.

From AC to ALL, T2-T2 (assuming PVG-BKK on TG), I-I, the MCT is 120 minutes:


Originally Posted by ChrisA330 (Post 14492661)
[KVS Availability Tool 5.7.4/Diamond - Reference: Minimum Connection Time [MCT]: PVG/AC-TG]
Code:

                                              DD  DI  ID  II 
STANDARD:        PVG                          020 060 060 060 
TERMINAL:        PVG  1  TO  1                120 120 120 120 
                      1  TO  2                150 150 150 150 
                      2  TO  1                150 150 150 150 
                      2  TO  2                120 120 120 120 
EXCEPTIONS:                                                   
A/L              TR        AREA                               

AC              1        CA                  --- --- --- 180 
TG              1                                             

AC              1        CA                  --- --- --- 180 
TG              2                                             

AC              2        CA                  --- --- --- 180 
TG              1                                             

AC              1        US                  --- --- --- 180 
TG              1                                             

AC              1        US                  --- --- --- 180 
TG              2                                             

AC              2        US                  --- --- --- 180 
TG              1                                             

AC              1                            --- --- --- 120 
-ALL-            1                                             

AC              1                            --- --- --- 120 
-ALL-            2                                             

AC              2                            --- --- --- 120 
-ALL-            1                                             

AC              2                            --- --- --- 120 
-ALL-            2                                             

**END OF DISPLAY**



Keter Aug 17, 2010 1:27 am


Originally Posted by Argonaut1000 (Post 14485214)
Is there information available using the KVS tool or elsewhere where it will show what Booking classes are mapped to on another airline?

I read on another link that they are not always linked by booking class, but also routing dependent?

IE - NH-C = AC-J

If you ask about interline fares [fares which allow to have segments by other airlines without the code of a main airlines (ie AF segments in DL fare)] then the information is stored in a so called "RBD Chart 2" which is part of the fare. It is currently available only in GDSs. It is fare and route specific but exceptions in fact are rare and usually apply to IATA fares rather than to other interline fares.

If you ask about codesharing (less likely) then it is only the airlines being parts of the agreement which have the information. For a passenger such information can only be useful for 'free-sell' codeshare agreements when you want to guess whether or not specific class opened by operating carrier will trigger the opening of a certain class by a marketing carrier.


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