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KVS Sep 12, 2010 3:07 pm


Originally Posted by xyzzy (Post 14645130)
That's not a fair comparison at all. Free tools like the Wandering Aramean Availability tool are quite similar.

That's true -- most imitations always have some similarities with the originals, by definition ;).

sbm12 Sep 12, 2010 3:48 pm


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 14645159)
That's true -- most imitations always have some similarities with the originals, by definition ;).

So you admit that your previous post was intended to purposefully deceive and mislead folks?

yesitshere Sep 12, 2010 3:49 pm

Whats this Wandering Aramean Availability Tool?

If it works, please let me know what this is is.

I had to tell 4 people politely to jump in the lake, because there was no hike available.

What do you have mr(s) kvs for the following award tix available:

leaving/returning to either MUC, FRA or ZRH TO HKG on 18 SEP 2010 in First, stay there about 24 hours and return.

this is for 1 pax.

either with LH, LX or BA, CX (from/to AMS)

PS: Do you have any idea why when choosing asiamiles (number and pin ARE correct), kvs freezes and crashes (when performing a search). this problem remains even after upgrading (reinstalling anew).

KVS Sep 12, 2010 4:00 pm


Originally Posted by sbm12 (Post 14645304)
So you admit that your previous post was intended to purposefully deceive and mislead folks?

We have no idea what exactly you are referring to, and, based on previous experience, strongly suspect that it is irrelevant vis-a-vis the subject of this thread.

mileageking Sep 12, 2010 4:05 pm

Just tried using KVS and looks like it's now working. ^

KVS Sep 12, 2010 4:11 pm


Originally Posted by yesitshere (Post 14645307)
What do you have mr(s) kvs for the following award tix available:

leaving/returning to either MUC, FRA or ZRH TO HKG on 18 SEP 2010 in First, stay there about 24 hours and return.

this is for 1 pax.

either with LH, LX or BA, CX (from/to AMS)

The service has now been restored.

LH F is available on the outbound from either FRA or MUC, but only C on the return. CX F is available ex-AMS; nothing on the inbound.

[KVS Availability Tool 5.7.4/Diamond - SNT: Awards/StarAlliance/JP-ANA-STD]
Code:

FRA  Frankfurt Metro / Frankfurt Int'l DE = FRA HHN [EDDF]
HKG  Hong Kong Int'l HK [VHHH]
SAT  18 Sep 2010 | 1 Seat

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------
LH        738    FRA  17:55    HKG  10:35 +1  744  0  FS+  CS-  YS-
LH        980    FRA  18:20    MUC  19:15    320  0  FS/  CS-  YS-
 -> LH    730    MUC  21:55    HKG  15:05 +1  346  0  FS+  CS-  YS-
LH        982    FRA  19:45    MUC  20:40    321  0  FS/  CS-  YS-
-> LH    730    MUC  21:55    HKG  15:05 +1  346  0  FS+  CS-  YS-
LX        1075    FRA  17:55    ZRH  18:45    AR1  0  FS/  CS-  YS-
 -> LX    138    ZRH  22:45    HKG  16:35 +1  343  0  FS-  CS-  YS-
LX        1077    FRA  20:45    ZRH  21:40    AR1  0  FS/  CS-  YS-
 -> LX    138    ZRH  22:45    HKG  16:35 +1  343  0  FS-  CS-  YS-

[KVS Availability Tool 5.7.4/Diamond - SNT: Awards/StarAlliance/JP-ANA-STD]
Code:

HKG  Hong Kong Int'l HK [VHHH]
FRA  Frankfurt Metro / Frankfurt Int'l DE = FRA HHN [EDDF]
MON  20 Sep 2010 | 1 Seat

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------
LH        739    HKG  13:00    FRA  18:50    744  0  FS-  CS+  YS-
LH        731    HKG  23:30    MUC  05:30 +1  346  0  FS-  CS-  YS-
 -> LH    961    MUC  06:05 +1  FRA  07:10 +1  321  0  FS/  CS-  YS-
LH        731    HKG  23:30    MUC  05:30 +1  346  0  FS-  CS-  YS-
 -> LH    963    MUC  07:05 +1  FRA  08:10 +1  321  0  FS/  CS-  YS-
LX        139    HKG  22:55    ZRH  06:10 +1  343  0  FS-  CS-  YS-
 -> LX    1068    ZRH  07:00 +1  FRA  08:15 +1  320  0  FS/  CS-  YS-
LX        139    HKG  22:55    ZRH  06:10 +1  343  0  FS-  CS-  YS-
 -> LX    1070    ZRH  08:05 +1  FRA  09:15 +1  AR1  0  FS/  CS-  YS-

[KVS Availability Tool 5.7.4/Diamond - Amadeus: Awards/OneWorld/AU-QFA-SP1]
Code:

AMS  Amsterdam-Schiphol NL [EHAM]
HKG  Hong Kong Int'l HK [VHHH]
SAT  18 Sep 2010 | 1 Seat

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------
CX        270    AMS  14:05    HKG  07:10 +1  744      FS+




Originally Posted by yesitshere (Post 14645307)
PS: Do you have any idea why when choosing asiamiles (number and pin ARE correct), kvs freezes and crashes (when performing a search). this problem remains even after upgrading (reinstalling anew).

Such issues would, typically, be caused by either a problem with one of the Windows components or 'badly-behaving' 3rd-party software.

Is this happening on one or both of your machines?

KVS Sep 12, 2010 4:15 pm


Originally Posted by Mennix (Post 14641768)
Have KVS Tool since appr. 1 week and have major stability problems. Seldom works longer than 5 minutes in a row without coming down.

Running Vista home premium.

Could you please provide a more detailed description of the issue?


Originally Posted by Mennix (Post 14641768)
Can I delete installation and reinstall it with the same old key ( hardware doesn't change, so machine No. shouldn't change also )

Yes, you can re-install the Tool on the same machine as many times as you like; your Registration Code will remain valid.


Originally Posted by Mennix (Post 14641768)
Also think I have to install machine No. 3, which is an old but perfect running XP Professional System.

Good idea -- please be sure to report the results.

FlyerGoldII Sep 12, 2010 4:24 pm

Regarding the following KVS tool displays of seat availability on the YOW-YYZ and the YYZ-LAS flights, there are 2 issues:

A. I had bought a revenue ticket some time ago, whereby I would go from YOW to LAS on AC on Nov 11, and come back on Nov 15. I was originally booked on the 10 AM flight from YOW to YYZ; however, Air Canada sent me an email this morning that the 10 AM flight has been cancelled. I was re-booked on the 9 AM flight. I am booked to go on AC 597 from YYZ to LAS, departing at 1:10 PM.

This and the other KVS tool availability functions do not yet reflect that cancellation.

B. My wife and I plan to go to Las Vegas that day; I wish to book a business class seat through my Aeroplan account for her. Obviously, I wish to book her to be on the same flights as I am booked on.

The Aeroplan web site is showing that I will get a non-priority award if she goes on the 11 AM flight, and then go on a flight to Denver on AC, and on a flight from Denver to LAS on UA.



My Aeroplan award account shows that I can book her on the 9 or 11 (or 10) AM flight from YOW to YYZ, and then AC 597, leaving at 1:10 PM. However, it is listed as classic plus award, with a 92,000 Aeroplan mile requirement, rather than a 40,000 mile requirement. Realizing that even with SEs, there is some capacity control to IKK award bookings, I still see no reason based on data from the KVS tool why the Aeroplan web site would require 92,000 miles, if I book the 9 AM flight from YOW to YYZ and then on AC 597 leaving YYZ at 1:10 PM. Any thoughts?



[KVS Availability Tool 5.7.4/Diamond - Sabre: Availability/FS/US]
Code:

YOW  Ottawa Metro / Ottawa Int'l ON CA = YOW [CYOW]
YYZ  Toronto Pearson Int'l ON CA [CYYZ]
THU  11 Nov 2010

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C      Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -----------------------------------------------------------------
AC        479    YOW  06:00    YYZ  07:00    319      R3 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 K9 V9 N9 W9 G9 S9 P9 L9 T9 E9 A0 J9 C9 D9 Z8
AC        441    YOW  07:00    YYZ  08:00    319      R3 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 K9 V9 N9 W9 G9 S9 P9 L9 T9 E9 A0 J9 C9 D9 Z8
AC        477    YOW  07:30    YYZ  08:30    E75      R2 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 K9 V9 N9 W9 G9 S9 P9 L9 T9 E0 A0 J9 C9 D9 Z7
AC        443    YOW  08:00    YYZ  09:00    320      R5 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 K9 V9 N9 W9 G9 S9 P9 L9 T9 E9 A0 J9 C9 D9 Z9
AC        445    YOW  09:00    YYZ  10:00    319      R2 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 K9 V9 N9 W9 G9 S9 P9 L9 T9 E9 A0 J9 C9 D9 Z6
AC        447    YOW  10:00    YYZ  11:00    320      R2 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 K9 V9 N9 W9 G9 S9 P9 L9 T9 E9 A0 J9 C9 D9 Z6
AC        449    YOW  11:00    YYZ  12:00    319      R5 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 K9 V9 N9 W9 G9 S9 P9 L9 T9 E9 A0 J9 C9 D9 Z9
AC        451    YOW  12:00    YYZ  13:00    E90      R1 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 K9 V9 N9 W9 G9 S9 P9 L9 T9 E9 A0 J9 C9 D9 Z5
AC        453    YOW  13:00    YYZ  14:00    E75      R1 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 K9 V9 N9 W9 G9 S9 P9 L4 T4 E0 A0 J9 C9 D9 Z3
AC        455    YOW  14:00    YYZ  15:00    320      R1 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 K9 V9 N9 W9 G9 S9 P9 L4 T4 E4 A0 J9 C9 D9 Z5
AC        457    YOW  15:00    YYZ  16:00    E90      R1 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 K9 V9 N9 W9 G9 S0 P0 L0 T0 E0 A0 J9 C9 D9 Z1
AC        459    YOW  16:00    YYZ  17:00    320      R1 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 K9 V9 N9 W9 G9 S9 P9 L4 T4 E4 A0 J9 C9 D9 Z2


[KVS Availability Tool 5.7.4/Diamond - Sabre: Availability/FS/US]
Code:

YYZ  Toronto Pearson Int'l ON CA [CYYZ]
LAS  Las Vegas McCarran Int'l NV US [KLAS]
THU  11 Nov 2010

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C      Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -----------------------------------------------------------------
AC        591    YYZ  09:15    LAS  10:59    320      R0 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W0 S0 L0 K9 N9 G0 P0 T0 E0 A0 J4 C4 D0 Z0
AC        597    YYZ  13:10    LAS  14:54    319      R0 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 K9 V4 N4 W0 A0 G0 S0 P0 L0 T0 E0 J7 C7 D2 Z0


sbm12 Sep 12, 2010 4:25 pm


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 14645358)
We have no idea what exactly you are referring to,

The one two posts prior where you suggested that getting the same data for free that you're selling was akin to hitchhiking. Do you really have that much trouble following a rather coherent conversation?

EileenSRN Sep 12, 2010 4:43 pm

It is distressing to see a FT Moderator flaming another Flyertalker.
I would like to thank ALL Flyertalkers who provide service of any kind for the rest of the forum members.
Eileen

G_G Sep 12, 2010 4:47 pm


Originally Posted by 1K+ (Post 14645391)
Just tried using KVS and looks like it's now working. ^

+1^

sbm12 Sep 12, 2010 4:50 pm


Originally Posted by EileenSRN (Post 14645561)
It is distressing to see a FT Moderator flaming another Flyertalker.
I would like to thank ALL Flyertalkers who provide service of any kind for the rest of the forum members.
Eileen

"Provide a service?" Don't you mean sell something that isn't really theirs to people?

Since when is trying to help others by pointing out that there are other tools available while this one is down inappropriate?

And pointing out that the responses to such suggestions are misleading at best is an action that I have no problem repeating. I have no problem with KVS selling the tool to folks so long as the customers are aware that what they're buying is also available for free. When such posts are met with suggestions that the other sources are not, in fact, able to actually perform the same way I will question it. When the responses are simply incoherent babbling I'll laugh at it.

I don't really think that's a problem.

ETA: I can understand why my responses might not be appreciated by the guy doing the selling, but I am quite comfortable in creating an environment of full disclosure of information rather than obfuscating and misleading existing or potential customers.

jarusoba Sep 12, 2010 4:58 pm


Originally Posted by sbm12 (Post 14645018)
Wirelessly posted (BlackBerry9630/5.0.0.591 Profile/MIDP-2.1 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/105)
You know that there are other free resources out there that provide access to the same data, right??

Yes, there are. But KVS is way easier and simpler to use. The interface is easier because a browser is not needed. When KVS is down, I have to use other stuff but KVS is my preferred tool to use.

KVS Sep 12, 2010 5:01 pm


Originally Posted by 1K+ (Post 14645391)
Just tried using KVS and looks like it's now working. ^

Indeed, our Web Hosting provider's systems are now back up and running, and access to all KVS Tool services has been restored as of approx. 17:00 CT / 23:00 GMT.

sbm12 Sep 12, 2010 5:02 pm


Originally Posted by jarusoba (Post 14645639)
Yes, there are. But KVS is way easier and simpler to use. The interface is easier because a browser is not needed. When KVS is down, I have to use other stuff but KVS is my preferred tool to use.

Definitely a YMMV situation depending on the particular bit of data you're looking for. That said, for folks who are aware of the different options and willing to choose one that makes sense to me. It is when customers are misled or misinformed that I consider the sales tactics questionable.


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