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carlosr Jul 27, 2010 7:35 pm

Need Help with Delta
 
I am new to KVS (signed up for Diamond). I am trying to understand availability of Delta low mileage awards. Not sure how to do it. Could someone help? I tried the search but did not find answers.

Thanks.

Carlos

carlosr Jul 27, 2010 7:49 pm

Please help me understand. What are the codes for low mileage coach and business?

KVS Jul 27, 2010 8:46 pm


Originally Posted by carlosr (Post 14376798)
I am new to KVS (signed up for Diamond). I am trying to understand availability of Delta low mileage awards. Not sure how to do it. Could someone help? I tried the search but did not find answers

Please help me understand. What are the codes for low mileage coach and business?

Welcome to the KVS Tool.

As per http://Help.KVSTool.com/#Classes they are:

  • R/FS (First Award)
  • O/CS (Business Award)
  • N/YS (Economy Award)

metallim Jul 28, 2010 11:36 am

lol, seems like the faq section isn't in style.


i'm looking for j availability on ly from tlv to jfk/ewr through galileo. the 1230am into jfk and the 1am into ewr never show up. i've tried entering the time manually and it still doesn't show. ??
(if it matters, i'm specifically looking for nov 14/15th, but i checked a range of dates and it didn't show.)

ExpertFlyer Voice Jul 28, 2010 1:58 pm


Originally Posted by metallim (Post 14380565)
i'm looking for j availability on ly from tlv to jfk/ewr through galileo. the 1230am into jfk and the 1am into ewr never show up. i've tried entering the time manually and it still doesn't show. ??
(if it matters, i'm specifically looking for nov 14/15th, but i checked a range of dates and it didn't show.)

Here is the full availability for the 14th:

Code:

LY 27        TLV        EWR        772        Economy - Awards        J        0
        11/14/2010        11/14/2010                               
        12:30 AM        6:00 AM                               
LY 1        TLV        JFK        744        Economy - Awards        J        0
        11/14/2010        11/14/2010                               
        1:00 AM        6:05 AM                               
LY 7        TLV        JFK        744        Economy - Awards        J        4
        11/14/2010        11/14/2010                               
        10:40 AM        3:45 PM

and the 15th:

Code:

LY 27        TLV        EWR        772        Economy - Awards        J        0
        11/15/2010        11/15/2010                               
        12:30 AM        6:00 AM                               
LY 1        TLV        JFK        744        Economy - Awards        J        0
        11/15/2010        11/15/2010                               
        1:00 AM        6:05 AM                               
LY 11        TLV        JFK        744        Economy - Awards        J        4
        11/15/2010        11/15/2010                               
        2:00 PM        7:05 PM

Hope that helps you.

KVS Jul 28, 2010 4:35 pm


Originally Posted by metallim (Post 14380565)
lol, seems like the faq section isn't in style.

Congrats on mastering the KVS Tool FAQ ;)

metallim Jul 28, 2010 6:01 pm


Originally Posted by ExpertFlyer Voice (Post 14381508)
Here is the full availability for the 14th:

Code:

LY 27        TLV        EWR        772        Economy - Awards        J        0
        11/14/2010        11/14/2010                               
        12:30 AM        6:00 AM                               
LY 1        TLV        JFK        744        Economy - Awards        J        0
        11/14/2010        11/14/2010                               
        1:00 AM        6:05 AM                               
LY 7        TLV        JFK        744        Economy - Awards        J        4
        11/14/2010        11/14/2010                               
        10:40 AM        3:45 PM

and the 15th:

Code:

LY 27        TLV        EWR        772        Economy - Awards        J        0
        11/15/2010        11/15/2010                               
        12:30 AM        6:00 AM                               
LY 1        TLV        JFK        744        Economy - Awards        J        0
        11/15/2010        11/15/2010                               
        1:00 AM        6:05 AM                               
LY 11        TLV        JFK        744        Economy - Awards        J        4
        11/15/2010        11/15/2010                               
        2:00 PM        7:05 PM

Hope that helps you.

thanks, but how can i pull that up myself?

KVS Jul 28, 2010 6:49 pm


Originally Posted by metallim (Post 14382918)
thanks, but how can i pull that up myself?

As mentioned in the KVS Tool User Guide (http://Help.KVSTool.com/#Methods), the [Galileo] Method only shows flights, that do have availability in the requested booking class(es). If you want to further confirm that there are no J seats on the other 2 flights, you need to enter "Y J" in the [Class(es)] field:

[KVS Availability Tool 5.6.0/Diamond - Galileo: Availability/ETR/JP]
Code:

TLV  Tel Aviv Yafo Metro / Tel Aviv Yafo Ben Gurion Int'l IL = TLV SDV [LLBG]
NYC  New York Metro NY US = JFK LGA
SUN  14 Nov 2010

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------
LY        7      TLV  10:40    JFK  15:45    744  0  Y4 J4
LY        1      TLV  01:00    JFK  06:05    744  0  Y4
LY        27      TLV  00:30    EWR  06:00    772  0  Y4


metallim Jul 29, 2010 2:02 am

beautiful, thank you.

ual744777sta Jul 29, 2010 6:44 pm

Is KVS down right now? The only thing working right now is Sabre....

KVS Jul 29, 2010 8:03 pm

[WSpan: ITN] & [Apollo: ITN] Methods Currently Unavailable
 

Originally Posted by ual744777sta (Post 14389450)
Is KVS down right now? The only thing working right now is Sabre....

This matter is currently being looked into:

[WSpan: ITN] & [Apollo: ITN] Methods Currently Unavailable

In the meantime, elite-tier users should switch to [Sabre: ITN] or [Galileo: ETR] to ensure uninterrupted access. Further information will be posted as it becomes available.

tmm1012 Jul 30, 2010 12:05 am


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 14389828)
This matter is currently being looked into:

[WSpan: ITN] & [Apollo: ITN] Methods Currently Unavailable

In the meantime, elite-tier users should switch to [Sabre: ITN] or [Galileo: ETR] to ensure uninterrupted access. Further information will be posted as it becomes available.

As a side-note that may be helpful, I can't seem to get http://www.seatcounter.com to work either. Thanks for all your work on the program, KVS. Anxiously awaiting any updates, but not trying to rush you.

FlyerGoldII Jul 30, 2010 3:43 pm

KVS - how do I found out about MPM automatically?
 
As per my last post of the thread,

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-c...ess-class.html

any route between YOW to MIL via CPH would be over the MPM of 4076 miles.

When I use the KVS tool and look at the fare rules, and the fare routing, associated with the Z fare of this route, I do not see anything directly stating that a surcharge will be applied if the MPM is exceeded, nor to do I see anywhere that the MPM is over the 4076 miles.

Of course, I am not looking at the MPM section separately from the fare rules and the fare routing sections. If I did, would there be any easy way to determine that routing via CPH would exceed this route's MPM?

KVS Jul 30, 2010 4:54 pm


Originally Posted by FlyerGoldII (Post 14394586)
As per my last post of the thread,

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-c...ess-class.html

any route between YOW to MIL via CPH would be over the MPM of 4076 miles.

When I use the KVS tool and look at the fare rules, and the fare routing, associated with the Z fare of this route, I do not see anything directly stating that a surcharge will be applied if the MPM is exceeded, nor to do I see anywhere that the MPM is over the 4076 miles.

Of course, I am not looking at the MPM section separately from the fare rules and the fare routing sections. If I did, would there be any easy way to determine that routing via CPH would exceed this route's MPM?

These are Routing-based fares, so MPM does not apply:

[KVS Availability Tool 5.6.0/Diamond - Routing Rules: YOW-MIL/AC/ZXRC30/3228 USD]
Code:

YOWMIL-AC 30JUL10      *RULE DISPLAY*    TARIFF 0101 RULE E350
* ADD APPLICABLE TAX * FED INSP FEES *                         
  -FARE BASIS        CAD      NUC                PTC  FT  GI
ZXRC30          R  3306.00  3152.68              ADT  EX  AT
ZXRC30          R  3306.00  3152.68              CNN  EX  AT
ZXRC30/IN90    R    330.00    315.26              INF  EX  AT
ZXRC30          R  3306.00  3152.68              INS  EX  AT
ZXRC30          R  3306.00  3152.68              UNN  EX  AT
BOOKING CODES        Z                                         
INDUSTRY FARE TYPE -  BX - BUSINESS CLASS EXCURSION           
MPM - AT  4704 VIA NORTH ATLANTIC
---------------------------------------------------------------

ROUTING 1401 FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-YHZ-YYT-AC-MIL*             
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-YHZ-YYT-AC-AC/LH-MIL*       
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-YHZ-YYT-AC-AC/LH-AC/LH/LX-   
                      MIL*                                     
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-YHZ-YYT-AC-AC/LH-STR-AC/     
                      LH/LX-MIL*                               
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-YHZ-YYT-AC-MUC/PAR/ROM/     
                      ZRH/WAW/VIE-AC/LH-MIL*                   
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-YHZ-YYT-AC-MUC/PAR/ROM/     
                      ZRH/WAW/VIE-AC/LH-AC/LH/LX-MIL*         
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-YHZ-YYT-AC-MUC/PAR/ROM/     
                      ZRH/WAW/VIE-AC/LH-STR-AC/LH/LX-MIL*     
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-YHZ-YYT-AC-BCN/BRU/DUS/     
                      FRA/HAM/LIS/LON/MAD/MUC/PAR/ROM/VIE/     
                      CPH-AC/LH-MIL*                           
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-YHZ-YYT-AC-GVA/ZRH-AC/LX-   
                      MIL*                                     
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-YHZ-YYT-AC-BRU-AC/SN-MIL*   
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-YHZ-YYT-AC-MAD/BCN-JK/IB/   
                      AZ/LX-MIL*                               
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-YHZ-YYT-AC-AMS-KL/AZ-MIL*   
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-YHZ-YYT-AC-ATH-A3-MIL*       
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-YHZ-YYT-AC-WAW-LO/AC-MIL*   
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-YHZ-YYT-AC-BA/BD/SK/AZ-     
                      MIL*                                     
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-YHZ-YYT-AC-AZ-MIL*           
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-YHZ-YYT-AC-ROM-AZ-MIL*       
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-YHZ-YYT-AC-AMS/BRU/LON-AZ/   
                      AF-MIL*                                 
            FROM-TO  YOW-YTO-YMQ-YHZ-YYT-AC-MIL*             
            FROM-TO  YOW-YTO-YMQ-YHZ-YYT-AC-AC/LH-MIL*       
            FROM-TO  YOW-YTO-YMQ-YHZ-YYT-AC-AC/LH-AC/LH/LX-   
                      MIL*                                     
            FROM-TO  YOW-YTO-YMQ-YHZ-YYT-AC-AC/LH-STR-AC/     
                      LH/LX-MIL*                               
            FROM-TO  YOW-YTO-YMQ-YHZ-YYT-AC-MUC/PAR/ROM/     
                      ZRH/WAW/VIE-AC/LH-MIL*                   
            FROM-TO  YOW-YTO-YMQ-YHZ-YYT-AC-MUC/PAR/ROM/     
                      ZRH/WAW/VIE-AC/LH-AC/LH/LX-MIL*         
            FROM-TO  YOW-YTO-YMQ-YHZ-YYT-AC-MUC/PAR/ROM/     
                      ZRH/WAW/VIE-AC/LH-STR-AC/LH/LX-MIL*     
            FROM-TO  YOW-YTO-YMQ-YHZ-YYT-AC-BCN/BRU/DUS/     
                      FRA/HAM/LIS/LON/MAD/MUC/PAR/ROM/VIE/     
                      CPH-AC/LH-MIL*                           
            FROM-TO  YOW-YTO-YMQ-YHZ-YYT-AC-GVA/ZRH-AC/LX-   
                      MIL*                                     
            FROM-TO  YOW-YTO-YMQ-YHZ-YYT-AC-BRU-AC/SN-MIL*   
            FROM-TO  YOW-YTO-YMQ-YHZ-YYT-AC-MAD/BCN-JK/IB/   
                      AZ/LX-MIL*                               
            FROM-TO  YOW-YTO-YMQ-YHZ-YYT-AC-AMS-KL/AZ-MIL*   
            FROM-TO  YOW-YTO-YMQ-YHZ-YYT-AC-ATH-A3-MIL*       
            FROM-TO  YOW-YTO-YMQ-YHZ-YYT-AC-WAW-LO/AC-MIL*   
            FROM-TO  YOW-YTO-YMQ-YHZ-YYT-AC-BA/BD/SK/AZ-     
                      MIL*                                     
            FROM-TO  YOW-YTO-YMQ-YHZ-YYT-AC-AZ-MIL*           
            FROM-TO  YOW-YTO-YMQ-YHZ-YYT-AC-ROM-AZ-MIL*       
            FROM-TO  YOW-YTO-YMQ-YHZ-YYT-AC-AMS/BRU/LON-AZ/   
                      AF-MIL*                                 
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/     
                      DTT/EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-MIL*             
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/     
                      DTT/EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-AC/LH-MIL*       
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/     
                      DTT/EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-AC/LH-AC/LH/LX-   
                      MIL*                                     
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/     
                      DTT/EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-AC/LH-STR-AC/     
                      LH/LX-MIL*                               
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/     
                      DTT/EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-MUC/PAR/ROM/     
                      ZRH/WAW/VIE-AC/LH-MIL*                   
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/     
                      DTT/EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-MUC/PAR/ROM/     
                      ZRH/WAW/VIE-AC/LH-AC/LH/LX-MIL*         
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/     
                      DTT/EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-MUC/PAR/ROM/     
                      ZRH/WAW/VIE-AC/LH-STR-AC/LH/LX-MIL*     
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/     
                      DTT/EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-BCN/BRU/DUS/     
                      FRA/HAM/LIS/LON/MAD/MUC/PAR/ROM/VIE/     
                      CPH-AC/LH-MIL*                           
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/     
                      DTT/EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-GVA/ZRH-AC/LX-   
                      MIL*                                     
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/     
                      DTT/EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-BRU-AC/SN-MIL*   
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/     
                      DTT/EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-MAD/BCN-JK/IB/   
                      AZ/LX-MIL*                               
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/     
                      DTT/EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-AMS-KL/AZ-MIL*   
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/     
                      DTT/EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-ATH-A3-MIL*       
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/     
                      DTT/EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-WAW-LO/AC-MIL*   
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/     
                      DTT/EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-BA/BD/SK/AZ-     
                      MIL*                                     
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/     
                      DTT/EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-AZ-MIL*           
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/     
                      DTT/EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-ROM-AZ-MIL*       
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/     
                      DTT/EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-AMS/BRU/LON-AZ/   
                      AF-MIL*                                 
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/EWR/     
                      NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-MIL*                     
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/EWR/     
                      NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-AC/LH-MIL*               
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/EWR/     
                      NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-AC/LH-AC/LH/LX-MIL*       
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/EWR/     
                      NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-AC/LH-STR-AC/LH/LX-MIL*   
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/EWR/     
                      NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-MUC/PAR/ROM/ZRH/WAW/     
                      VIE-AC/LH-MIL*                           
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/EWR/     
                      NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-MUC/PAR/ROM/ZRH/WAW/     
                      VIE-AC/LH-AC/LH/LX-MIL*                 
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/EWR/     
                      NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-MUC/PAR/ROM/ZRH/WAW/     
                      VIE-AC/LH-STR-AC/LH/LX-MIL*             
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/EWR/     
                      NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-BCN/BRU/DUS/FRA/HAM/     
                      LIS/LON/MAD/MUC/PAR/ROM/VIE/CPH-AC/LH-   
                      MIL*                                     
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/EWR/     
                      NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-GVA/ZRH-AC/LX-MIL*       
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/EWR/     
                      NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-BRU-AC/SN-MIL*           
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/EWR/     
                      NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-MAD/BCN-JK/IB/AZ/LX-     
                      MIL*                                     
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/EWR/     
                      NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-AMS-KL/AZ-MIL*           
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/EWR/     
                      NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-ATH-A3-MIL*               
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/EWR/     
                      NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-WAW-LO/AC-MIL*           
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/EWR/     
                      NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-BA/BD/SK/AZ-MIL*         
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/EWR/     
                      NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-AZ-MIL*                   
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/EWR/     
                      NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-ROM-AZ-MIL*               
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/EWR/     
                      NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-AMS/BRU/LON-AZ/AF-MIL*   
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/     
                      EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-MIL*                 
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/     
                      EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-AC/LH-MIL*           
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/     
                      EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-AC/LH-AC/LH/LX-MIL*   
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/     
                      EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-AC/LH-STR-AC/LH/LX-   
                      MIL*                                     
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/     
                      EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-MUC/PAR/ROM/ZRH/     
                      WAW/VIE-AC/LH-MIL*                       
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/     
                      EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-MUC/PAR/ROM/ZRH/     
                      WAW/VIE-AC/LH-AC/LH/LX-MIL*             
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/     
                      EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-MUC/PAR/ROM/ZRH/     
                      WAW/VIE-AC/LH-STR-AC/LH/LX-MIL*         
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/     
                      EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-BCN/BRU/DUS/FRA/     
                      HAM/LIS/LON/MAD/MUC/PAR/ROM/VIE/CPH-     
                      AC/LH-MIL*                               
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/     
                      EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-GVA/ZRH-AC/LX-MIL*   
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/     
                      EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-BRU-AC/SN-MIL*       
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/     
                      EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-MAD/BCN-JK/IB/AZ/     
                      LX-MIL*                                 
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/     
                      EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-AMS-KL/AZ-MIL*       
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/     
                      EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-ATH-A3-MIL*           
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/     
                      EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-WAW-LO/AC-MIL*       
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/     
                      EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-BA/BD/SK/AZ-MIL*     
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/     
                      EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-AZ-MIL*               
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/     
                      EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-ROM-AZ-MIL*           
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/     
                      EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-AMS/BRU/LON-AZ/AF-   
                      MIL*                                     
            FROM-TO  YOW-YHZ-YYT-AC-MIL*                     
            FROM-TO  YOW-YHZ-YYT-AC-AC/LH-MIL*               
            FROM-TO  YOW-YHZ-YYT-AC-AC/LH-AC/LH/LX-MIL*       
            FROM-TO  YOW-YHZ-YYT-AC-AC/LH-STR-AC/LH/LX-MIL*   
            FROM-TO  YOW-YHZ-YYT-AC-MUC/PAR/ROM/ZRH/WAW/     
                      VIE-AC/LH-MIL*                           
            FROM-TO  YOW-YHZ-YYT-AC-MUC/PAR/ROM/ZRH/WAW/     
                      VIE-AC/LH-AC/LH/LX-MIL*                 
            FROM-TO  YOW-YHZ-YYT-AC-MUC/PAR/ROM/ZRH/WAW/     
                      VIE-AC/LH-STR-AC/LH/LX-MIL*             
            FROM-TO  YOW-YHZ-YYT-AC-BCN/BRU/DUS/FRA/HAM/     
                      LIS/LON/MAD/MUC/PAR/ROM/VIE/CPH-AC/LH-   
                      MIL*                                     
            FROM-TO  YOW-YHZ-YYT-AC-GVA/ZRH-AC/LX-MIL*       
            FROM-TO  YOW-YHZ-YYT-AC-BRU-AC/SN-MIL*           
            FROM-TO  YOW-YHZ-YYT-AC-MAD/BCN-JK/IB/AZ/LX-     
                      MIL*                                     
            FROM-TO  YOW-YHZ-YYT-AC-AMS-KL/AZ-MIL*           
            FROM-TO  YOW-YHZ-YYT-AC-ATH-A3-MIL*               
            FROM-TO  YOW-YHZ-YYT-AC-WAW-LO/AC-MIL*           
            FROM-TO  YOW-YHZ-YYT-AC-BA/BD/SK/AZ-MIL*         
            FROM-TO  YOW-YHZ-YYT-AC-AZ-MIL*                   
            FROM-TO  YOW-YHZ-YYT-AC-ROM-AZ-MIL*               
            FROM-TO  YOW-YHZ-YYT-AC-AMS/BRU/LON-AZ/AF-MIL*


FlyerGoldII Jul 31, 2010 1:44 pm

This is what my AC source said, in response to your post (note- he/she has seen your post) - note, I am planning to purchase a Z fare ticket:

international fares have MPM ( maximum permitted mileages) and special fares allows specific routing like the YOW MIL permissible routing for the Z fare with a 30 days advance purchase.


In the top section of the example posted you will see MPM 4704, so it is the maximum permitted mileage without having to pay a surcharge ...


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