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The purpose of this thread is to post questions, feedback, and report issues with ExpertFlyer. The ExpertFlyer team will respond as soon as possible from the ExpertFlyer Voice account (usually within 24 hours except on weekends).

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Seat Maps: we're currently not able to show seat maps for flights departing within the next 24 hours for several airlines: DL, BA, QR , ANA, B6, & JL
Searches currently not working:
  • Upgrades - AY, BA, EK, EY, IB, QR, VS
  • Awards - AY, BA, IB, EY, QR, VS

To search AA upgrades:
  • Use the Award & Upgrade tool
  • Only search for individual segments (set the "Connection Preference" drop-down to "Direct/Non-Stop only"). Flight results that are part of a connection won't show the upgrade version of C or A inventory because AA only files upgrade inventory as individual, not married, segments. (Married segments show revenue inventory instead of upgrade inventory.)
  • To avoid confusion, check the "Exclude Codeshares" box, as AA awards and upgrades are not valid on codeshares.
  • 2 minute video explanation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGRNFYIbHp4











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Old Jul 18, 2025 | 8:39 pm
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Originally Posted by stephem
To the extent the historical fares function now shows a calendar that allows you to pick a ticketing date in the past, it is not working correctly. I just did a search using ticket date of Jan 27 and it displays some fares, but if you click on those fares and check out the fare routing rules you will see dates like this "CREATED 17JUL25" At least for that search, there are no historical fares being shown, only current fares like this one that obviously did not exist back on Jan 27, 2025.

I have been involved in IT my whole life, I have been a paid EF subscriber for many years. I have never complained about the tool that I can recall and have generally been happy with it and come to rely on its functionality to book things, save money, etc. I came to use EF after KVS became unreliable. This latest roll out is inexcusable, it is laughable and the notion that subscribers should deal with key pieces of functionality missing is unacceptable.
I do agree that there should have been better testing before it went live - but we are where we are... We don't know everything that led up to this. I've also been involved in IT my whole life, and I know from personal experience that when you get put into a place where you are taking over a project that has been abandoned for years and was built around a 10 year old obsolete platform ... things get tough.

I'm willing to cut some slack given what is obviously not a great situation -- and the fact that they are clearly actively involved to make fixes based on constructive bug reports in this thread.
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Old Jul 18, 2025 | 10:34 pm
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Seat maps for a Qantas flight two months out aren't correct. All seats occupied (not blocked) but availability shows as J9 plus plus. Same in PE.
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Old Jul 19, 2025 | 12:18 am
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Originally Posted by pushka
Seat maps for a Qantas flight two months out aren't correct. All seats occupied (not blocked) but availability shows as J9 plus plus. Same in PE.
Same observations for my bookings...
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Old Jul 19, 2025 | 1:23 am
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Cant perform seat map queries on QF nor see blocked seats

ExpertFlyer Voice I also cant see QF seat maps over the coming months, and the ones that do come up dont show preferred seating availability or blocked seats. Can you please advise if youre still working on this to restore? Thank you
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Old Jul 19, 2025 | 8:15 am
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Originally Posted by SkyTeam777
So no mobile function anymore?
Anyone? Is this gone? The email we got indicated that the mobile version would be where we would see the most improvements, yet it now appears to be gone entirely.
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Old Jul 19, 2025 | 8:46 am
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Originally Posted by corbes63
ExpertFlyer Voice I also cant see QF seat maps over the coming months, and the ones that do come up dont show preferred seating availability or blocked seats. Can you please advise if youre still working on this to restore? Thank you
For those hat are seeing issues with QF Seat Maps please send us your flight details over DM or to [email protected]. That will help our team troubleshoot. Will DM on mobile questions to ensure we're talking about the same thing
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Old Jul 19, 2025 | 10:11 am
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I'm jumping in to agree with both WannaTheater and some dude

In my career as a consulting software professional, I have had to take on the support and redesign of 3 or 4 large online application. They all were in similar situations as what the current support team is working with: obsolete technology, lack of documentation (or, even worse, misleading documentation), badly written code, poorly maintained code, etc. Unless you have done it, you have no idea what hard work it is. Personally I saw several improvement with the last update. But it is obvious this was the first of at least 2 or 3 update cycles that will be required to straighten out the product. And that does not include any thought by the current support team as to their desired end state product.

As some dude said, I am not affiliated with EF in any way, outside of being a subscriber. All I am trying to do is to bring out what I feel is the reality of the current situation. The recent update did not fix many major bugs in the product. And if anyone finds it unacceptable, they need to find another product that satisfies their requirements. Or cancel their subscription. As consumers, this is the only leverage we have.
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Old Jul 19, 2025 | 1:50 pm
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Agreed with cheltzel - there is likely to be a few update cycles just to get things fully back to equivalent functionality of the old site without adding any new features. I'd also say that there are some clear improvements to me as well - the site is far faster, and i've also seen a few bugs that were broken on the old site fixed with the new site [likely just as a matter of using modern frameworks instead of YUI].

With all that said, it's also obvious that the way they are updating things will make it much easier to add new features in the future, if they choose to do so.
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Old Jul 19, 2025 | 2:08 pm
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Also: ExpertyFlyer Voice ...

Your signature links to Blog.expertflyer.com which redirects to a 404 on 404 Error ...

It might be a good idea to actually get some simple site up which has a list of known issues and a changelog showing when issues have been resolved ... or just update your signature to remove that broken link
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Old Jul 19, 2025 | 5:21 pm
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I believe most of the issues I have with the newish UI have already been raised. To me it seems like you tried to keep the same UI rather than implementing the key user stories in an efficient work flow. Clicking on 'flight availability' and then navigating by keyboard no longer works. I have to press tab 30+ times to get even close to the origin airport field. My 'recent alert' is from 2007. The three recent searches are a mix of search from last month (not the last ones) and one from 2016. Fonts and rendering on Firefox has numerous issues.
You seem to have a newer technology stack now. Why not build a modern UI and reconsider some of the typical work flows? I'd rather see you drop 90% of the 'content' on the site and just have a limited but effective features implemented.
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Old Jul 20, 2025 | 7:20 am
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Airport Delays Missing?

I noticed in the recent web launch the airport delay section missing from the travel information section. Is this temporary/located somewhere else that I cant seem to find or gone?
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Old Jul 20, 2025 | 11:56 am
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On the mobile site, please move the saved queries button to near the top. On travel day when on mobile, thats what I (and most users probably) reach for the most often. Thank you.
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Old Jul 20, 2025 | 12:25 pm
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Originally Posted by El_Duderito
I believe most of the issues I have with the newish UI have already been raised. To me it seems like you tried to keep the same UI rather than implementing the key user stories in an efficient work flow. Clicking on 'flight availability' and then navigating by keyboard no longer works. I have to press tab 30+ times to get even close to the origin airport field. My 'recent alert' is from 2007. The three recent searches are a mix of search from last month (not the last ones) and one from 2016. Fonts and rendering on Firefox has numerous issues.
You seem to have a newer technology stack now. Why not build a modern UI and reconsider some of the typical work flows? I'd rather see you drop 90% of the 'content' on the site and just have a limited but effective features implemented.
Personally speaking - I think there could absolutely be some huge improvements by adding in some modern UI around typical user stories ... but I think many of us would also want to keep a lot of the existing functionality feeling as close as possible to what Expertflyer always was.

There are other websites out there that have GDS data with more modern UI's - and if that's what you want, you could have switched to that ages ago... Personally, the main reasons I use EF is to see raw GDS availability for both revenue and award/upgrade buckets, seat maps, minimum connection time, timatic, fare code details, and detailed flight status with comments...

If yuo want a slick UI that does accomplish a lot to help you on award bookings - but with limited information outside of their prescribed flows ... use Roame...
If you want a powerful system for finding availability of revenue buckets and fare codes ... use ITAMatrix - its free, and far more powerful.

Expertflyer needs to focus on making their niche product as best as it can be, and not try to be something that other products already do.
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Old Jul 21, 2025 | 12:45 am
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Getting an error when trying to access the website. Says 500 Internal Server Error.

Anyone else having the same problem?
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Old Jul 21, 2025 | 1:06 am
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Originally Posted by bagold
Getting an error when trying to access the website. Says 500 Internal Server Error.

Anyone else having the same problem?
I'm getting
404 Page not found
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