Oneworld booking and pricing experiences
#3032



Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: used to be PER, now it's nowhere/eveywhere
Programs: QFF NB, AA GLD
Posts: 3,687
#3034




Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: London, UK
Programs: AY Platinum (BA refugee), AA liftime gold
Posts: 689
I'm not sure which thread is right for this, I have a CX issued DONE4. Date changes have been no issue via whatsapp (and once by calling), though they bave been understandly swamped post dramatic weather issues. What I'm struggling with now and would love advice on (I have no CX status) is convincing the non xONEx knowledgeable person to ask someone about availability on flights which show a D9 on expertflyer with the POS set to where I started my xONEx AND moreover show as available on a dummy new booking via https://rtw.oneworld.com/rtw/choose-flight
An example of what the agent tiold me: as this will involve another airline, we see what is allocated for us. Also, ticket stocks for new booking and for rebooking are different. It matters since we only rely on the ticket stocks that are available for us to sell in to passengers.
An example of what the agent tiold me: as this will involve another airline, we see what is allocated for us. Also, ticket stocks for new booking and for rebooking are different. It matters since we only rely on the ticket stocks that are available for us to sell in to passengers.
#3035


Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: New York, NY
Posts: 2,056
And since segments rule can be met flying 8 segments within past 24 months, it means I only need to construct a RTW with 3 QR segments on my next RTW having nearly finished the second ex-Cairo RTW. Is Oslo and Tokyo still the lowest DONEs out there?
#3036




Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: HKG
Programs: Marriott Ambassador (Titanium Lifetime), BA GfL, EK Gold, HH Diamond, Ex-BD*G
Posts: 3,736
What I'm struggling with now and would love advice on (I have no CX status) is convincing the non xONEx knowledgeable person to ask someone about availability on flights which show a D9 on expertflyer with the POS set to where I started my xONEx AND moreover show as available on a dummy new booking via https://rtw.oneworld.com/rtw/choose-flight
An example of what the agent tiold me: as this will involve another airline, we see what is allocated for us. Also, ticket stocks for new booking and for rebooking are different. It matters since we only rely on the ticket stocks that are available for us to sell in to passengers.
An example of what the agent tiold me: as this will involve another airline, we see what is allocated for us. Also, ticket stocks for new booking and for rebooking are different. It matters since we only rely on the ticket stocks that are available for us to sell in to passengers.
#3037




Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: NRT / HND
Programs: AA EXP, A3 Gold, Former UA 1K
Posts: 6,365
I'm not sure which thread is right for this, I have a CX issued DONE4. Date changes have been no issue via whatsapp (and once by calling), though they bave been understandly swamped post dramatic weather issues. What I'm struggling with now and would love advice on (I have no CX status) is convincing the non xONEx knowledgeable person to ask someone about availability on flights which show a D9 on expertflyer with the POS set to where I started my xONEx AND moreover show as available on a dummy new booking via https://rtw.oneworld.com/rtw/choose-flight
An example of what the agent tiold me: as this will involve another airline, we see what is allocated for us. Also, ticket stocks for new booking and for rebooking are different. It matters since we only rely on the ticket stocks that are available for us to sell in to passengers.
An example of what the agent tiold me: as this will involve another airline, we see what is allocated for us. Also, ticket stocks for new booking and for rebooking are different. It matters since we only rely on the ticket stocks that are available for us to sell in to passengers.
It's definitely a HUCA situation until you find someone who understands. The OW desk will call you back on the phone to confirm the changes and any fees. In my case I made changes to ticketed points and they still didn't charge me any fees for it.
But as Littlevoices said as well, I'd check it in the OW tool first, because we know that Expertflyer isn't perfect for RTW availability due to point of origin issues that it doesn't have access to. So you'd need to plug in a proxy itinerary similar to your current one to get accurate availability.
#3038




Join Date: Aug 2004
Programs: AA (EP), Hilton (Diamond), Marriott Bonvoy (Titanium)
Posts: 9,131
I'm not sure which thread is right for this, I have a CX issued DONE4. Date changes have been no issue via whatsapp (and once by calling), though they bave been understandly swamped post dramatic weather issues. What I'm struggling with now and would love advice on (I have no CX status) is convincing the non xONEx knowledgeable person to ask someone about availability on flights which show a D9 on expertflyer with the POS set to where I started my xONEx AND moreover show as available on a dummy new booking via https://rtw.oneworld.com/rtw/choose-flight
#3039



Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: LHR
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 35
Hi all, seeking some advice on how I could optimise the YQ/YR on this DONE4 itinerary via codeshares and ticketing carrier, for now this is what I have planned to optimise points earn on AY. The advice I've been reading on the forum has been highly insightful and appreciated.
OSL-QR-DOH-QR-DUB-QR-xDOH-QR-GRU / SCL-QF-SYD-AA-ZQN / CHC-AA-xSYD-BA-HKG-CX-HKT-CX-HKG-AA-SIN-AA-xHND-BA-xLHR-AA-OSL
AY earns the most on AA,BA,IB, which I've chosen where possible, but unsure if this is feasible on all these flights or if I am being overly ambitious. Also reading that issuing it on QR via Sabre would avoid other carriers' surcharges, how easy is it to find a TA that can do that? Open to suggestions on how to tweak the itinerary if necessary. Thanks all in advance.
OSL-QR-DOH-QR-DUB-QR-xDOH-QR-GRU / SCL-QF-SYD-AA-ZQN / CHC-AA-xSYD-BA-HKG-CX-HKT-CX-HKG-AA-SIN-AA-xHND-BA-xLHR-AA-OSL
AY earns the most on AA,BA,IB, which I've chosen where possible, but unsure if this is feasible on all these flights or if I am being overly ambitious. Also reading that issuing it on QR via Sabre would avoid other carriers' surcharges, how easy is it to find a TA that can do that? Open to suggestions on how to tweak the itinerary if necessary. Thanks all in advance.
Last edited by jacket6; Sep 28, 2025 at 5:22 am
#3040
FlyerTalk Evangelist


Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: MEL CHC
Posts: 22,913
Hi all, seeking some advice on how I could optimise the YQ/YR on this DONE4 itinerary via codeshares and ticketing carrier, for now this is what I have planned to optimise points earn on AY. The advice I've been reading on the forum has been highly insightful and appreciated.
OSL-QR-DOH-QR-DUB-QR-xDOH-QR-GRU / SCL-QF-SYD-AA-ZQN / CHC-AA-xSYD-BA-HKG-CX-HKT-CX-HKG-AA-SIN-AA-xHND-BA-xLHR-AA-OSL
AY earns the most on AA,BA,IB, which I've chosen where possible, but unsure if this is feasible on all these flights or if I am being overly ambitious. Also reading that issuing it on QR via Sabre would avoid other carriers' surcharges, how easy is it to find a TA that can do that? Open to suggestions on how to tweak the itinerary if necessary. Thanks all in advance.
OSL-QR-DOH-QR-DUB-QR-xDOH-QR-GRU / SCL-QF-SYD-AA-ZQN / CHC-AA-xSYD-BA-HKG-CX-HKT-CX-HKG-AA-SIN-AA-xHND-BA-xLHR-AA-OSL
AY earns the most on AA,BA,IB, which I've chosen where possible, but unsure if this is feasible on all these flights or if I am being overly ambitious. Also reading that issuing it on QR via Sabre would avoid other carriers' surcharges, how easy is it to find a TA that can do that? Open to suggestions on how to tweak the itinerary if necessary. Thanks all in advance.
Have you checked code shares are all available on the routes listed?
Example SYD-(BA)-HKG which is flown by QF and CX, but not BA. SYD-HKG CX110 does as AY5092, BA4132, OM5604
Also reading that issuing it on QR via Sabre would avoid other carriers' surcharges
http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=c%3Ablu...=bm&PW=3&DU=mi
Last edited by Mwenenzi; Sep 28, 2025 at 3:26 pm
#3041



Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: LHR
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 35
ZQN CHC by land is a waste of a segment. Is counted in the 16 allowable. Note CX fly AKL-HKG and CHC-HKG seasonably (summer).
Have you checked code shares are all available on the routes listed?
Example SYD-(BA)-HKG which is flown by QF and CX, but not BA. SYD-HKG CX110 does as AY5092, BA4132, OM5604
Have you checked code shares are all available on the routes listed?
Example SYD-(BA)-HKG which is flown by QF and CX, but not BA. SYD-HKG CX110 does as AY5092, BA4132, OM5604
I believe the codeshares all exist, but the only thing I don't know is if I actually have this freedom to nitpick the codeshares for every flight I want, or if there are some married segment logic or requirement to link it with a prime flight of that carrier. Not sure I understand your example on the SYD-HKG routing, as your example of the CX flight shows a BA code like I have in my itinerary. Same way I wrote AA between HKG and SIN, which is obviously operated by CX. The reason for this is that AA, BA, IB codes earn double the tier points vs CX, QF, JL, etc. on AY, so I'm trying to pick these codes where possible. Not sure if this has YQ/YR implications, especially with BA's reputation of high surcharges on their own flights, do these apply to codeshares too? This
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/37292353-post1122.html
Saw this post mentioning QR-issued tickets only have YQ/YR levied on QR and BA sectors, unsure if that's universally applicable or if I've misunderstood.
#3042
FlyerTalk Evangelist




Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: BOS/UTH
Programs: AA LT PLT; QRPC PLT/OW EMD; Bonvoy LT Titanium
Posts: 14,571
You do not have the freedom to select any codeshare on any flight. Most (but not all) of the time, codeshares require a connection to or from a prime flight of the codeshare you want. I haven't yet figured out any pattern or logic to this, however. Like you, I try to select codeshares to maximize the mileage I earn (in my case, in QRPC). Sometimes I can get them, sometimes not. Never hurts to try, however.
#3044




Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: London, UK
Programs: AY Platinum (BA refugee), AA liftime gold
Posts: 689
One thing to check is availability in EF using a PoS of the country of the CX office you are calling, e.g., HKG if calling their HKG office (I'm not sure where Whatsapp contacts are handled). You could also check PoS U.S. and if it shows available, call CX's U.S. number. Likewise for other countries.I'd suggest verifying EF availability for PoSin a country where CX has an office, then calling that office.
#3045




Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: HKG
Programs: Marriott Ambassador (Titanium Lifetime), BA GfL, EK Gold, HH Diamond, Ex-BD*G
Posts: 3,736
Full route booked (for 4, cost per adult = ~USD7.5k; so a lot of fuel surcharges)
OSL-DOH-HKG // HKG-CMB-SIN-HKG // HKG-AKL-NAN-MEL-HKG // HKG-JFK-ORD-ANC-SEA-DOH-OSL
(Return from another RTW) // 1 week CNY Holiday // 2 week Easter Holiday // 2.5week Summer holiday and return
Other points to note:
OSL-DOH-HKG // HKG-CMB-SIN-HKG // HKG-AKL-NAN-MEL-HKG // HKG-JFK-ORD-ANC-SEA-DOH-OSL
(Return from another RTW) // 1 week CNY Holiday // 2 week Easter Holiday // 2.5week Summer holiday and return
Other points to note:
- In general, even 9 months in advance, Alaska Airlines are very stingy with their D class availability on direct flights out of ANC - Near impossible to get even ANC-SEA, but the moment you do ANC-SEA-LAX or ANC-SEA-DFW, lots more space. This was frustrating as my ambition here was an Alaska visit in July, busy times clearly (maybe not helped with the football world cup)
- Continuing problems with Trans-conntential availability remains, over a 5 day period couldn't find a single flight (admittedly I need 4 business tickets) from JFK/BOS to LAX or SFO. In the end I had to accept defeat and do JFK-ORD-ANC, rather than JFK-SFO-ANC that I could find on EF). Maybe they're blocking for the world cup?
- No enforcement of AA codeshare across an ocean (all of my US flights were AA or AA codeshare)
- I had to do this twice as the first agent (after the HUCA) seemed to be doing a good job, but actually hadn't: She had missed an entire flight out; had one flight taking off before I landed, and misspelt a name (which leads to a restart). The second agent, who I've had before, was great and fixed it all as quickly as possible when I called back ten minutes later after viewing online (the other agent was too keen to get me off)
- The ticket cost vs fuel surcharge are wrong and so I'll need to call back when I have the energy (children's fuel surcharges are more than adults, but one adult looks to have paid a child fare). The overall amounts are probably correct, but not how they're split... Edit: Yes, looks like one of the adults was classed as a child when I called, maybe I entered passport details incorrectly, or the agent copy/pasted across. God knows what that means. The fuel surcharges are still the wrong way around too, so it's with AA to decide what to do. I have a horror of having to redo this all again, or splitting the ticket to fix the adult fare. Sigh
. Maybe the tip there is: Don't enter passport information until AFTER ticketing.



