Oneworld booking and pricing experiences
#3046




Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: NRT / HND
Programs: AA EXP, A3 Gold, Former UA 1K
Posts: 6,368
You do not have the freedom to select any codeshare on any flight. Most (but not all) of the time, codeshares require a connection to or from a prime flight of the codeshare you want. I haven't yet figured out any pattern or logic to this, however. Like you, I try to select codeshares to maximize the mileage I earn (in my case, in QRPC). Sometimes I can get them, sometimes not. Never hurts to try, however.
#3047




Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: country Western Australia
Programs: QF WP(LTS) - AA LTG(1MM)
Posts: 2,858
I agree here as well, international codeshares on RTW tickets tend to be pretty easy to book depending on who is doing the ticketing. Even from airlines I've had both QF and CX book them for me on flights that certainly did not line up to prime flights. The domestic ones are more questionable, like booking QR codes on AA domestic flights, but it does appear that travel agents can do it. Thankfully AA has added QR codeshares to many of their domestic and regional flights, much to the benefit of us AAdvantage captive folks.
HOWEVER, QFF took a very dim view on crediting those flights.
Yes the RTW was ticketed by a TA (UL) the only downside being that in a couple of cases, the code shares were NOT available during the initial ticketing and changing later proved "not feasible".
Also remember that surface segments can also be used to break married segments (e.g. you need more than 6 in the USA) and some I class AA flights are now "quite reasonable" as a surface segment filler.
Who knew about all the complications of wandering
Fred
#3050




Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: SORT OF HOMELESS
Programs: 14 years AA exp, but no more; & 1MM+, QR-PLT (ow EMD) MR-LTT, HH Gold
Posts: 8,106
#3051

Join Date: Oct 2023
Location: NYC <> SFBA
Programs: AA PlatPro, FB Gold, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 472
Potentially dumb question - what are DONE3/DONE4 fares like ex-CAI nowadays? Im glancing through the oneworld explorer without paying too much attention to D fare availability and its pricing at ~14k AUD. Looking at EF I dont see fares filed.
#3052
Moderator, OneWorld




Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: SEA
Programs: RAA RIP; AA ExEXP
Posts: 12,558
They're quoted using QR as the issuer. Base fare is around A$12K for DONE4.
#3053




Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: SORT OF HOMELESS
Programs: 14 years AA exp, but no more; & 1MM+, QR-PLT (ow EMD) MR-LTT, HH Gold
Posts: 8,106
AA has D0 for many flights on many days - What happened?
Trying to book an ex-HND DONEx. I have 6 domestic segments on AA for July 2026 timeframe. For examples: JFK-LAX (D0 for all flights with afternoon departures, as I will be coming in from HND, connecting at JFK to LAX); even DFW-YVR; DFW-ANC.
What happened?
Now I plan to book those segments in Y (in hope to have them changed to D later). Is this a workable strategy? Never had to do this before.
What happened?
Now I plan to book those segments in Y (in hope to have them changed to D later). Is this a workable strategy? Never had to do this before.
#3054




Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: NRT / HND
Programs: AA EXP, A3 Gold, Former UA 1K
Posts: 6,368
Trying to book an ex-HND DONEx. I have 6 domestic segments on AA for July 2026 timeframe. For examples: JFK-LAX (D0 for all flights with afternoon departures, as I will be coming in from HND, connecting at JFK to LAX); even DFW-YVR; DFW-ANC.
What happened?
Now I plan to book those segments in Y (in hope to have them changed to D later). Is this a workable strategy? Never had to do this before.
What happened?
Now I plan to book those segments in Y (in hope to have them changed to D later). Is this a workable strategy? Never had to do this before.
#3055




Join Date: Aug 2022
Posts: 7
Not sure if this is the right forum for this question, but …
Does anyone know if on a business class OW RTW, can one individual segment be a PAID upgrade to First Class (ie on a BA flight that offers true F)? Most of my itinerary doesn’t offer First, but a couple do, and I’d be happy to pay for upgrade.
Any ideas, and if possible, is it via airline directly?
Thanks!!
Does anyone know if on a business class OW RTW, can one individual segment be a PAID upgrade to First Class (ie on a BA flight that offers true F)? Most of my itinerary doesn’t offer First, but a couple do, and I’d be happy to pay for upgrade.
Any ideas, and if possible, is it via airline directly?
Thanks!!
#3056



Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: used to be PER, now it's nowhere/eveywhere
Programs: QFF NB, AA GLD
Posts: 3,692
Not sure if this is the right forum for this question, but …
Does anyone know if on a business class OW RTW, can one individual segment be a PAID upgrade to First Class (ie on a BA flight that offers true F)? Most of my itinerary doesn’t offer First, but a couple do, and I’d be happy to pay for upgrade.
Any ideas, and if possible, is it via airline directly?
Thanks!!
Does anyone know if on a business class OW RTW, can one individual segment be a PAID upgrade to First Class (ie on a BA flight that offers true F)? Most of my itinerary doesn’t offer First, but a couple do, and I’d be happy to pay for upgrade.
Any ideas, and if possible, is it via airline directly?
Thanks!!
16(c) 4. Upgrading by sector to Business/First Class is not permitted.
So the correct answer to your question is 'no', meaning that you cannot have an issued ticket with one sector showing First Class and all the other sectors showing Business Class.
But, if BA has issued your ticket then perhaps it will accept a payment for the one sector upgrade - no harm in asking.
#3057




Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: HKG
Programs: Marriott Ambassador (Titanium Lifetime), BA GfL, EK Gold, HH Diamond, Ex-BD*G
Posts: 3,752
I would observe that I have managed to get on the transcontinental in the end, but this required a lot of calls to see if anything opened up (since EF doesn't give an accurate result) and so you're basically shooting in the dark. To give an idea the last time I needed to change from JFK-LAX to BOS-LAX, about 3 days in advance. That meant a worse lounge but better flight. And with 25 hours in Boston to create a break in segments, I was coming from MIA.
Personally I'd just take the other flights in AS business and then see what happens closer to the time. I'd rather have a backup that isn't economy if I've paid for business.
To be honest with a DONE5 or 6 I'm amazed you have that many segments to want to do much in the USA, I'd have personally done something like into JFK/DFW from CX or JL, down to South America on a real international flight, back up and then out to Europe via QR/Doha? Better than any transcontinental experience by a long way.
#3058




Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: SORT OF HOMELESS
Programs: 14 years AA exp, but no more; & 1MM+, QR-PLT (ow EMD) MR-LTT, HH Gold
Posts: 8,106
OK, so the same problem as I had above then, and on a number of ex-HND DONE fares to be honest, even when not 9 months out.
I would observe that I have managed to get on the transcontinental in the end, but this required a lot of calls to see if anything opened up (since EF doesn't give an accurate result) and so you're basically shooting in the dark. To give an idea the last time I needed to change from JFK-LAX to BOS-LAX, about 3 days in advance. That meant a worse lounge but better flight. And with 25 hours in Boston to create a break in segments, I was coming from MIA.
Personally I'd just take the other flights in AS business and then see what happens closer to the time. I'd rather have a backup that isn't economy if I've paid for business.
To be honest with a DONE5 or 6 I'm amazed you have that many segments to want to do much in the USA, I'd have personally done something like into JFK/DFW from CX or JL, down to South America on a real international flight, back up and then out to Europe via QR/Doha? Better than any transcontinental experience by a long way.
I would observe that I have managed to get on the transcontinental in the end, but this required a lot of calls to see if anything opened up (since EF doesn't give an accurate result) and so you're basically shooting in the dark. To give an idea the last time I needed to change from JFK-LAX to BOS-LAX, about 3 days in advance. That meant a worse lounge but better flight. And with 25 hours in Boston to create a break in segments, I was coming from MIA.
Personally I'd just take the other flights in AS business and then see what happens closer to the time. I'd rather have a backup that isn't economy if I've paid for business.
To be honest with a DONE5 or 6 I'm amazed you have that many segments to want to do much in the USA, I'd have personally done something like into JFK/DFW from CX or JL, down to South America on a real international flight, back up and then out to Europe via QR/Doha? Better than any transcontinental experience by a long way.
#3059




Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: HKG
Programs: Marriott Ambassador (Titanium Lifetime), BA GfL, EK Gold, HH Diamond, Ex-BD*G
Posts: 3,752
The ticket cost vs fuel surcharge are wrong and so I'll need to call back when I have the energy (children's fuel surcharges are more than adults, but one adult looks to have paid a child fare). The overall amounts are probably correct, but not how they're split... Edit: Yes, looks like one of the adults was classed as a child when I called, maybe I entered passport details incorrectly, or the agent copy/pasted across. God knows what that means. The fuel surcharges are still the wrong way around too, so it's with AA to decide what to do. I have a horror of having to redo this all again, or splitting the ticket to fix the adult fare. Sigh
. Maybe the tip there is: Don't enter passport information until AFTER ticketing.
. Maybe the tip there is: Don't enter passport information until AFTER ticketing.Edit: The refund came through without me needing to take any action about a week later, so all fixed in the end.
Last edited by littlevoices; Oct 13, 2025 at 2:43 am
#3060




Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: London, UK
Programs: AY Platinum (BA refugee), AA liftime gold
Posts: 692
tnx. The issue was that some agents were just totally divorced from reality but 6 hours later another agent wasn't, but none till today stayed online with me long enough to get 5 date changes onto my ticket and pass it on for pricing. Now -- today, a full 8 days of going round in circles -- an agent stayed online enough to put in dates and pass it over for pricing. I'm banking on the back office contacting me so I can have a synchronous conversation about real dates and ticketing all in one.
The agent was kind enough to raise a query for the back office team on why I can apparently book on oneworld.com/rtw/ but not change to it via an agent so I might learn more in a bit.



